Tuff mac 12 x 6

Grueller · 11-05-2019 9:50pm #1

My trailer is 30+ years old. It is a straight old trailer and doing the job well enough I suppose. Here is the thing though. A good mate has a 12x6 tuff mac about 10 months old and wants to buy a 14 x 6 tri axle instead. He has offered it to me at the trade in price. There is a serious saving on new and I know the trailer was minded.
How do they compare to the other brands or does anyone have any experience with them? They seem to be a fine strong trailer just not as well finished as say an ifor williams. I am tempted by the offer.

hopeso · 11-05-2019 10:21pm

The first question is, is he going Tuff mac again for the 14 foot? If so, he must be happy enough with how it behaved over the 10 months he had it.....

orm0nd · 11-05-2019 10:39pm

Only issues I've heard of was rivets on the ramp shearing or loosening. This was on early models. Don't know if it's rectified. Anyhow not a big deal, easy fix with bolts.

Grueller · 11-05-2019 10:52pm

hopeso wrote: »

The first question is, is he going Tuff mac again for the 14 foot? If so, he must be happy enough with how it behaved over the 10 months he had it.....

Yep. Tuffmac 14ft

Track9 · 12-05-2019 1:13am

A mate of mine bought a Tuff Mac a few yrs old . Even though we spotted some repairs on the ramp he still purchased . They are well built , solid realible & no issues. Even tho he hauls cattle for lads each week its a reliable trialer .

Sami23 · 13-05-2019 9:46am

Grueller wrote: »

My trailer is 30+ years old. It is a straight old trailer and doing the job well enough I suppose. Here is the thing though. A good mate has a 12x6 tuff mac about 10 months old and wants to buy a 14 x 6 tri axle instead. He has offered it to me at the trade in price. There is a serious saving on new and I know the trailer was minded.
How do they compare to the other brands or does anyone have any experience with them? They seem to be a fine strong trailer just not as well finished as say an ifor williams. I am tempted by the offer.

How much is he offering it to you for. That will go a long way to making the decision ?

Grueller · 13-05-2019 10:47am

Sami23 wrote: »

How much is he offering it to you for. That will go a long way to making the decision ?

Deal done this morning. He had been offered €4500 on a trade in. We met the dealer and he took my box instead and allowed €1500 for the trade of that.
I let that off and wrote my mate a cheque for €3000.
The box is in his yard still so I'll collect it next time I am over that way. I am happy enough to be honest.

Sami23 · 13-05-2019 10:50am

Grueller wrote: »

Deal done this morning. He had been offered €4500 on a trade in. We met the dealer and he took my box instead and allowed €1500 for the trade of that.
I let that off and wrote my mate a cheque for €3000.
The box is in his yard still so I'll collect it next time I am over that way. I am happy enough to be honest.

3k sounds good for practically new trailer.
How much are they new btw

Grueller · 13-05-2019 11:21am

Sami23 wrote: »

3k sounds good for practically new trailer.
How much are they new btw

I had quotes from €5500 up to €6200 for tuffmac and €6750 for the same spec Ifor Williams. Happy enough with the deal as I reckon €1200 was the value of mine being sold privately.

Sami23 · 13-05-2019 11:25am

Grueller wrote: »

I had quotes from €5500 up to €6200 for tuffmac and €6750 for the same spec Ifor Williams. Happy enough with the deal as I reckon €1200 was the value of mine being sold privately.

No you definately got a good deal by the sounds of it in fairness. Best of luck with it.

Do you know how much your friend was quoted for for the new 14 foot Tuffmac ?

Limestone Cowboy · 13-05-2019 11:59am

Sami23 wrote: »

No you definately got a good deal by the sounds of it in fairness. Best of luck with it.

Do you know how much your friend was quoted for for the new 14 foot Tuffmac ?

I know a 12ft tri axle was coming in around 6500 inc vat. Only priced it a few weeks back.

Albert Johnson · 13-05-2019 12:41pm

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

I know a 12ft tri axle was coming in around 6500 inc vat. Only priced it a few weeks back.

I'm tempted to change to a 12 foot triaxle too although I thought the price would be a bit keener tbh. I understand that if your vat registered it may be a different story. A friend showed me a 14" tuffmac bought last week for €5750 cash, this included a worn out 12" Hudson traded in at €2200. Another friend bought a 14" Nugent without a tank for €7200 inc vat and a straight deal, I thought it dear and doesn't look to be any better of a trailer. My own trailer is a 12" Graham Edwards which I'd hope to be worth circa €2500, it's doing my work but am tempted to change in case of trailer testing in the near future.

hopeso · 13-05-2019 1:30pm

Grueller wrote: »

Deal done this morning. He had been offered €4500 on a trade in. We met the dealer and he took my box instead and allowed €1500 for the trade of that.
I let that off and wrote my mate a cheque for €3000.
The box is in his yard still so I'll collect it next time I am over that way. I am happy enough to be honest.

It sounds like you did alright there..... Well wear!

Grueller · 13-05-2019 2:12pm

Sami23 wrote: »

No you definately got a good deal by the sounds of it in fairness. Best of luck with it.

Do you know how much your friend was quoted for for the new 14 foot Tuffmac ?

€6800 including VAT. Well it was €2300 with his own. Dealer said they had went up €300 due to sterling and there was always €1200 difference from 12ft double axle to 14ft tri axle. Thats €1500 so he lost €800 in the short time he owned the trailer.

Muckit · 13-05-2019 7:25pm

Probably be tricky for a number oc reasons, but a steering rear axle would be the job with those tri axles for turning in yards. Don't know how it could be done but that she'd lock the 3 axles over certain speed and that she would allow the back one to swivel for slow tight turning.

Albert Johnson · 13-05-2019 7:45pm

Muckit wrote: »

Probably be tricky for a number oc reasons, but a steering rear axle would be the job with those tri axles for turning in yards. Don't know how it could be done but that she'd lock the 3 axles over certain speed and that she would allow the back one to swivel for slow tight turning.

It would definitely be an advantage if implemented correctly but I'd imagine it would take some clever engineering. This is going to increase the initial cost and also be an ongoing maintenance issue. If the necessary maintenance is lacking then I'd imagine it would only be another costly and possibly dangerous item to potentially fail. On the issue of maintenance is there anyone in the North West (Sligo/Leitrim) who services trailers or is it something I could attempt myself? I'm talking brakes in particular.

Grueller · 13-05-2019 9:33pm

Albert Johnson wrote: »

It would definitely be an advantage if implemented correctly but I'd imagine it would take some clever engineering. This is going to increase the initial cost and also be an ongoing maintenance issue. If the necessary maintenance is lacking then I'd imagine it would only be another costly and possibly dangerous item to potentially fail. On the issue of maintenance is there anyone in the North West (Sligo/Leitrim) who services trailers or is it something I could attempt myself? I'm talking brakes in particular.

Look up youtube. Its not a difficult one to do.

Limestone Cowboy · 14-05-2019 11:01am

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I'm tempted to change to a 12 foot triaxle too although I thought the price would be a bit keener tbh. I understand that if your vat registered it may be a different story. A friend showed me a 14" tuffmac bought last week for €5750 cash, this included a worn out 12" Hudson traded in at €2200. Another friend bought a 14" Nugent without a tank for €7200 inc vat and a straight deal, I thought it dear and doesn't look to be any better of a trailer. My own trailer is a 12" Graham Edwards which I'd hope to be worth circa €2500, it's doing my work but am tempted to change in case of trailer testing in the near future.

Have a fairly worn out 14ft Ifor and a good 10x5 Ifor. Thought to sell the 2 of them and have one right trailer. A lot spent this year though so might have to wait till next year. Would rather the tri axle to tow.

Albert Johnson · 14-05-2019 12:18pm

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Have a fairly worn out 14ft Ifor and a good 10x5 Ifor. Thought to sell the 2 of them and have one right trailer. A lot spent this year though so might have to wait till next year. Would rather the tri axle to tow.

I'm of the same mindset, I had an old 8x5 box with no brakes that I sold and currently have the 12" Graham Edwards. The smaller trailer was handy at times but anything decent in that size is €1500+ and I can't really justify 2 trailers at that kind of money. I'm certain that trailer testing will be enacted in the medium term and had a bad experience with towing years ago so having a trailer up to spec is something I'm particular about. I think the triaxle is a steadier setup compared to the double axle, less snaking behind the jeep. A 12" box would be big enough for most of the yards I'd frequent, that extra 2 foot makes a big difference in a tight spot.

josephsoap · 19-05-2019 10:19pm

Just wondering do many of you wash your trailer after every use ?

Trailer washed after every use here I am just wondering am I giving myself extra hardship as most of my mates say their trailer would be lucky to get one wash a year

Grueller · 19-05-2019 10:25pm

josephsoap wrote: »

Just wondering do many of you wash your trailer after every use ?

Trailer washed after every use here I am just wondering am I giving myself extra hardship as most of my mates say their trailer would be lucky to get one wash a year

I do. My last trailer was 35 years old and in reasonably good shape considering we have an outfarm 7 miles away so the trailer does a lot of work.

josephsoap · 19-05-2019 10:30pm

Grueller wrote: »

I do. My last trailer was 35 years old and in reasonably good shape considering we have an outfarm 7 miles away so the trailer does a lot of work.

35 years ....will keep washing it so

hopeso · 19-05-2019 10:57pm

josephsoap wrote: »

Just wondering do many of you wash your trailer after every use ?

Trailer washed after every use here I am just wondering am I giving myself extra hardship as most of my mates say their trailer would be lucky to get one wash a year

Yes....In fact, I'm not long in the door after washing mine......

Albert Johnson · 19-05-2019 11:07pm

josephsoap wrote: »

Just wondering do many of you wash your trailer after every use ?

Trailer washed after every use here I am just wondering am I giving myself extra hardship as most of my mates say their trailer would be lucky to get one wash a year

I have a square headed coal shovel specially for the job of cleaning out the trailer after each use. It only takes a minute to scrape out the heavy stuff and the trailer is dry and reasonably clean for the next time. My trailer would be used multiple times a week and I'd rarely wash it tbh unless it was very dirty. Granted it was bought second hand and is probably circa 20 years old but I doubt I'd be much more particular with a new trailer, there bought to be dirtied in fairness.

anthony500_1 · 20-05-2019 6:24am

josephsoap wrote:

Just wondering do many of you wash your trailer after every use ?

Yeah would always wash the trailer here after use, might only use it once a month. It's 15yrs in our yard and is as good as new,

blue5000 · 20-05-2019 11:58am

A lad was taking his time washing his trailer at the mart, dealer in a hurry with a filthy trailer in the que behind him says 'Are you selling it or what?'

I always wash mine, hate lending it to lads who never wash it after them.

Tuff mac 12 x 6

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