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The Grass Measuring Thread

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    #32
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,822 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Mooooo wrote: »
    What would the cover of 2250 been at at closing. As in winter would heavier covers grow more or less than lighter covers iykwim?

    It was 500 at closing iirc.
    It'll be probably be end of Feb before I've the mouths to graze it properly
    That's an exceptional variety and bred to grow over winter. Typical winter growth here would be 5-6 but we've had an exceptional winter


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    #33
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1332643683453647&id=1161444260573591

    A bit above about N use in spring grazing.


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    #34
    f140
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭f140


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1332643683453647&id=1161444260573591

    A bit above about N use in spring grazing.
    any chance of a summary, I was too lazy to read it all


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    #35
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    f140 wrote: »
    any chance of a summary, I was too lazy to read it all

    Don't put n on heavy covers,wait till they're grazed before applying n. Organic matter is extremely important for the soil


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    #36
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,822 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    charolais0153 wrote: »
    Don't put n on heavy covers,wait till they're grazed before applying n. Organic matter is extremely important for the soil

    Wouldn't agree re heavy covers. They need N more than any other cover. No energy left for regrowths once grazed. If the N is spread now and there grazed in 4-5 weeks time they are r day to grow once there grazed


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    #37
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Wouldn't agree re heavy covers. They need N more than any other cover. No energy left for regrowths once grazed. If the N is spread now and there grazed in 4-5 weeks time they are r day to grow once there grazed

    Im just summarising what the article said ....would n not be working now on the heavy covers making them even heavier and then there would be less n left for regrowths


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    #38
    FeelTheBern
    Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭FeelTheBern


    Just clicked into this thread to post a question and see now might be bang on topic!

    Have a paddock that closed off early in autumn to save for suckler cows and calves end Feb/start of March. Nice bit of grass on it now. Don't generally spread fertiliser here early in Spring but wondering should I spread urea on it now to have more grass on it in few weeks when grazing or graze it and then spread after in March?


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    #39
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    For those interested in grass recording, there is a link in the following tweet for an explanation and some helpful notes on understanding the figures as well.

    https://twitter.com/JohnMor320d/status/823621744233771008


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    #40
    freedominacup
    Registered Users Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    FeelTheBern wrote: »
    Just clicked into this thread to post a question and see now might be bang on topic!

    Have a paddock that closed off early in autumn to save for suckler cows and calves end Feb/start of March. Nice bit of grass on it now. Don't generally spread fertiliser here early in Spring but wondering should I spread urea on it now to have more grass on it in few weeks when grazing or graze it and then spread after in March?

    We covered the whole place last week with urea. I'd get a bit out. Not a general rule but you have to play what's in front of you. Last year we had nothing out before the end of Feb.


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    #41
    alps
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    FeelTheBern wrote: »
    Just clicked into this thread to post a question and see now might be bang on topic!

    Have a paddock that closed off early in autumn to save for suckler cows and calves end Feb/start of March. Nice bit of grass on it now. Don't generally spread fertiliser here early in Spring but wondering should I spread urea on it now to have more grass on it in few weeks when grazing or graze it and then spread after in March?

    Lots of rain for thursday, so that would want to be on the ground Tuesday morning...window closing for the time being I reckon....


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    #42
    freedominacup
    Registered Users Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    alps wrote: »
    Lots of rain for thursday, so that would want to be on the ground Tuesday morning...window closing for the time being I reckon....

    Didn't check the forecast before i posted. Alps is right about window closing.


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    #43
    Keepgrowing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    Grass result dry matter 21.7%, protein 21.5%, DMD 82%

    Not too many feeds will compete with that


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    darragh_haven
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    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    Grass result dry matter 21.7%, protein 21.5%, DMD 82%

    Not too many feeds will compete with that

    Gras sample from a recently receeded paddock?


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    #45
    Timmaay
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    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    Grass result dry matter 21.7%, protein 21.5%, DMD 82%

    Not too many feeds will compete with that

    Late lactation cows who have just after been turfed out to grass, should I feed them only this or keep up the bit of maize at night?


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    #46
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Late lactation cows who have just after been turfed out to grass, should I feed them only this or keep up the bit of maize at night?

    I would keep in the maize would compliment the grass well, help hold condition.


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    #47
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    Grass result dry matter 21.7%, protein 21.5%, DMD 82%

    Not too many feeds will compete with that

    Wasn't that field spread with fert long before sample taken?


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    #48
    darragh_haven
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    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    Grass result dry matter 21.7%, protein 21.5%, DMD 82%

    Not too many feeds will compete with that

    Gras sample from a recently receeded paddock?


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    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    Grass result dry matter 21.7%, protein 21.5%, DMD 82%

    Not too many feeds will compete with that

    Lots would its just they're considerably more expensive;)


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    Signpost
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    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    Grass result dry matter 21.7%, protein 21.5%, DMD 82%

    Not too many feeds will compete with that

    How did you get the figures? Grass sample to a lab or some home made operation?


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    #51
    GrasstoMilk
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    Signpost wrote: »
    How did you get the figures? Grass sample to a lab or some home made operation?

    Testing ours this afternoon with this new portable testing kit Glanbia have. I'll let you know what it comes back at


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    #52
    yosemitesam1
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    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    Grass result dry matter 21.7%, protein 21.5%, DMD 82%

    Not too many feeds will compete with that

    Was there any energy value given?


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    #53
    mahoney_j
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    yosemitesam1 wrote: »
    Was there any energy value given?

    With results like above me 12.5 /13 .


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    #54
    Keepgrowing
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    Sample from paddock 7 yrs seeded, unrea last week.

    All I know is that result brings our AFC to >1000 and that we grew 5 per day instead of 3 as previously thought

    No energy result. It illustrates the power of spring grass imv


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    #55
    mahoney_j
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    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    Sample from paddock 7 yrs seeded, unrea last week.

    All I know is that result brings our AFC to >1000 and that we grew 5 per day instead of 3 as previously thought

    No energy result. It illustrates the power of spring grass imv
    Fully agree but wonder what would dm content drop to if we had a prolonged wet spell


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    #56
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    Sample from paddock 7 yrs seeded, unrea last week.

    All I know is that result brings our AFC to >1000 and that we grew 5 per day instead of 3 as previously thought

    No energy result. It illustrates the power of spring grass imv

    If urea was out last week would that protein be artificially raised and be an issue to the cow? Would be interesting to see protein figure in 3 weeks assuming grass wasn't touched


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    #57
    GrasstoMilk
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    Grass samples of 4 different paddocks this am.


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    #58
    freedominacup
    Registered Users Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Grass samples of 4 different paddocks this am.

    I'd love to see a measure of the quality of those protein results. Moved maiden heifers to outfarm today. One paddock too strong for slurry during the week. They'll get another three days outside on it. Back in then for a few weeks. They spent the last week cleaning off the heaviest ground on the mp. It should be back for the end of first rotation when it's normally grazed for the first time most years.


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    #59
    degetme
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    Spread urea and covered same ground with half bag of 0 7 30 on grazing paddocks over week ago. Can see a noticeable difference in grass today after drop of rain over night.


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    #60
    pedigree 6
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    degetme wrote: »
    Spread urea and covered same ground with half bag of 0 7 30 on grazing paddocks over week ago. Can see a noticeable difference in grass today after drop of rain over night.

    Would you not be afraid of grass tetany by applying the 30units of K now just before the cows go out?

    Edit: only a half bag of 0 7 30.
    Crisis averted. I didn't read the post properly.:rolleyes:


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    #61
    Freejin
    Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭Freejin


    New years resolution here to start measuring grass (again!). Made an attempt a few years ago but packed it up.

    I have a plate meter and did a walk yesterday. Just wondering what formulas do fellas use with the plate meters? Looking back at the one I used a few years back, it was:
    (((Final Reading-Initial Reading)/No. of Samples)*140)-1000=KG dm/ha

    No idea where I got that from, so could be way out!


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