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Irish Gendarmerie?

  • 21-11-2018 1:56pm
    #1
    SSr0
    Registered Users Posts: 299 ✭✭


    Would you be behind such an idea to form a military police force here in Ireland?

    Take half of the members out of the Defence Forces and detach them to this proposed police force. Their main role being to back up AGS, whenever the case may arrise.
    Also, maybe limit their powers of arrest and jurisdiction over civilians, unless a member of AGS is with them.

    Giving AGS the red button option of having two cars full of fit military trained men/women, landing down whenever things get out of hand, would IMO be an invaluable resource. Thus giving AGS a fighting chance in dealing with the ever increasing number of absolute scumbags, who terrorise decent people in this country, with what sometimes seems like total impunity.

    Call such an idea crazy or insane, but I genuinely feel that the Gardaí have lost control in certain areas. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.


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  • #2
    TheQuietFella
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭TheQuietFella


    The rebirth of the Black & Tans!!!


  • #3
    JustAYoungLad
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 206 ✭✭JustAYoungLad


    No. What a cringy post. You think a SWAT team will suddenly cure society?

    Heck just cut out the middleman and give everybody guns.


  • #4
    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,407 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Could we call them "The Lads"rather than the Gendarmerie?


  • #5
    artanevilla
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,226 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    The Gards haven't lost control. They've lost interest. What's the point of arresting, charging and prosecuting the same people every month when all they get is a slap on the wrist and released back to offend again.


  • #6
    Mr. Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    They are army trained to be an army

    They are not trained to be police.


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  • #7
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users Posts: 28,759 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Is that not what the ARU/RSUs were set up for?


  • #8
    SSr0
    Registered Users Posts: 299 ✭✭SSr0


    JustAYoungLad wrote: »
    No. What a cringy post. You think a SWAT team will suddenly cure society?

    Heck just cut out the middleman and give everybody guns.

    I didn't mention anything about guns or "SWAT" teams.


  • #9
    JustAYoungLad
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 206 ✭✭JustAYoungLad


    SSr0 wrote: »
    I didn't mention anything about guns or "SWAT" teams.

    Why are you authoritarian mate? Do you feel like youre losing control? Violent notions towards certain people?

    Be honest, why feel the need to murder? Thats the bottom line isnt it? That your proposal will kill some people and itll cure society?


  • #10
    SSr0
    Registered Users Posts: 299 ✭✭SSr0


    JustAYoungLad wrote: »
    Why are you authoritarian mate? Do you feel like youre losing control? Violent notions towards certain people?

    Be honest, why feel the need to murder? Thats the bottom line isnt it? That your proposal will kill some people and itll cure society?

    You got me, my real name is actually Adolf...


  • #11
    JustAYoungLad
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 206 ✭✭JustAYoungLad


    SSr0 wrote: »
    You got me, my real name is actually Adolf...

    More like George Bush.


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  • #12
    Pyr0
    Registered Users Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Pyr0


    artanevilla wrote: »
    The Gards haven't lost control. They've lost interest. What's the point of arresting, charging and prosecuting the same people every month when all they get is a slap on the wrist and released back to offend again.

    Exactly.

    If i was arresting the same c*nt every couple of months just to see them rack up charges and walk free every time then i'd reach a point where i just wouldn't bother anymore, i don't blame them at all.


  • #13
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,106 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Pyr0 wrote: »
    Exactly.

    If i was arresting the same c*nt every couple of months just to see them rack up charges and walk free every time then i'd reach a point where i just wouldn't bother anymore, i don't blame them at all.

    Guess we're lucky our guards don't have the same attitude.


  • #14
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Is that not what the ARU/RSUs were set up for?

    It's exactly what they do.


  • #15
    Pyr0
    Registered Users Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Pyr0


    Grayson wrote: »
    Guess we're lucky our guards don't have the same attitude.

    I agree, it's not a job i could do myself so fair play to them.


  • #16
    L.Jenkins
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    JustAYoungLad wrote: »
    No. What a cringy post. You think a SWAT team will suddenly cure society?

    Heck just cut out the middleman and give everybody guns.

    An annual Purge or Hunger Games might solve a few social problems :P


  • #17
    Ten of Swords
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    I don't recall the ERU/ASUs complaining that they are under resourced - they probably have more money spent on them per person than any other operational unit in terms of equipment and training.

    The problem is not enough frontline gardai walking the streets and doing community policing. A gendarmerie would not be appropriate for that, and the defense forces would have to be retrained, at considerable expense, for policing duties.

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  • #18
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    First why dont we recruit train and equip the gardai properly

    then correct the behavior of the judges and solicitors to properly punish criminals and isolate them from the rest of us.

    coupled with proper secure treatment for those with addiction issues and mental health problems

    public confidence is raised quality of life improved for all and people think long and hard about the consequences of crime before they choose to commit one.


    but that would be classed as a fascist far right science fiction work of Robert A. Heinlein or Joe Haldeman,


    be nice though woulnt it ?


  • #19
    joe40
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    if they were going to be paid the same as guards, why not just recruit more guards.


  • #20
    orourkeda1977
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭orourkeda1977


    How about we just employ a police force that are both interested and capable of doing their jobs.


  • #21
    topper75
    Registered Users Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    artanevilla wrote: »
    The Gards haven't lost control. They've lost interest. What's the point of arresting, charging and prosecuting the same people every month when all they get is a slap on the wrist and released back to offend again.

    Jail is full.

    We will have to go Brazilian on this and start disappearing people.

    "That pedo rapist guy - I haven't seen him around in a while!"

    "Yeah now that you say it. Ah well. Reminds me: I must bring in the last of the turf from the bog."


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  • #22
    joe40
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    topper75 wrote: »
    Jail is full.

    We will have to go Brazilian on this and start disappearing people.

    "That pedo rapist guy - I haven't seen him around in a while!"

    "Yeah now that you say it. Ah well. Reminds me: I must bring in the last of the turf from the bog."

    Nearly December, you need to get a move on


  • #23
    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,174 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    That is a cosmically terrible idea and totally unnecessary, particularly given that we already have a police unit with guns out the wazoo, to be deployed as and when needed.


  • #24
    MadYaker
    Registered Users Posts: 12,138 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    We need more normal gardai not a new type of gardai. Transport police would be the most worthwhile new force. The ERU and the ARU cover what you described OP.


  • #25
    topper75
    Registered Users Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    joe40 wrote: »
    Nearly December, you need to get a move on

    Hold your horses - my proposed Disappearing Programme and suspension of habeus corpus won't be implemented until summer 2020 at the earliest.


  • #26
    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,174 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    MadYaker wrote: »
    We need more normal gardai not a new type of gardai. Transport police would be the most worthwhile new force. The ERU and the ARU cover what you described OP.

    I don't think going down the UK-esque route of Traffic Wombles will solve anything except a public service budget surplus. :pac:


  • #27
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,353 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    topper75 wrote: »
    Jail is full.

    We will have to go Brazilian on this and start disappearing people.

    "That pedo rapist guy - I haven't seen him around in a while!"

    "Yeah now that you say it. Ah well. Reminds me: I must bring in the last of the turf from the bog."

    Could we not just go "Saudi" on this one and chop people's hands off ?


  • #28
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users Posts: 12,188 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    "There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people"
    -Adama

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



  • #29
    El_Bee
    Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭El_Bee


    No, because these super police arrest these guys, they get another conviction to add to the list, and it's out the door of the Courts a free man.


  • #30
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    at least the ARUs look semi professional. Ordinary gardai in their manky ill fitting hivis anoraks look a fooking state


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  • #31
    topper75
    Registered Users Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »
    "There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people"
    -Adama

    A noble chap if ever there was one.
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