Legal Highs

You can buy a herb to smoke but the dude in the shop said you have to smoke it a particular way which made me a bit skepticalas it looked like a way to cover themselves if/when it didn't work.

yeah, you really have to blaze that sh1t up to get anything, but when it works it's mental.


course in my day we just raided the press under the sink, mmmmmmmmm mr sheen fresh

What people seem to be talking about here is a hallucinogenic herb called Salvia Divinorum. The active compound in it is called Salvinorum A and it's metabolized very quickly so you need to get a fair whack of it into you in a short space of time for it to have the sought effect. Which means smoking a Salvia D joint will do absolutely bugger all to you, while vapourizing it (heating it in a special pipe or tinfoil and inhaling the fumes can give you hallucinations so strong your body isn't even involved. You'll have to at least smoke it in an ice bong and take about 3 big hits in a row holding in for 30 seconds (I say an ice bong because the smoke is very very hot, hotter than skunk or hash smoke and will burn your lungs if you try to take big hits). The effect is more of a mental hallucination than the likes of acid or shrooms, which operate on more of a sensory level. It's hard to explain.

I wouldn't count it as a recreational drug, more something for the experimental or philisophical types. You should never try it alone (at the heavier stages of hallucination, when your mind leaves your body, your body can wander around on its own, possibly into moving traffic, out a window, etc etc. If you're thinking of trying it, do a bit of research first.

During one of my more extreme sessions, I met someone in a desert who explained a number of things to me that had previously puzzled me, similar to one of my first trips where I began to understand how this type of hallucination worked, why my brain was being led to believe that it was in a desert and not in my living room, why it was different to other types of hallucinogenic drugs I had tried. Again, it's not easy to explain.



Edit: I dug up a post I wrote a while back on the Dam board on the subject:

Originally posted by Sico
Dav, I had some in the gaff last time you were up, if we had been in the right mood I'd have brought it out.

The best way to take it is to vapourize the salvinorum A in the leaf - heat it (in a tin-foil tube or something), but don't burn it - breath it in deep, hold. BE CAREFUL doing it this way - you can get seriously deep trips from it, and if you don't have a 'minder' there with you you can start walking round oblivious to the world.

I smoked it in a bong - kills the lungs, but it's the most hassle-free way to get it into you quickly. The first time I didn't get to a hallucinogenic state, just the first stage - limbs got very heavy, speech slurred, coordination went out the window. Kind of like being droned.

Later on, when mike was out (he didn't want me to smoke too much in the same room, in case he got some of the effects and couldn't drive) I stuck a load of ice in the bong and took a few big hits off it (the salvinorum gets metabolized very quickly, so you need to get it all in as quickly as possible) and lay nailed to the sofa. The auld mind started wandering off, after a few minutes I had light closed-eye hallucination (patterns, not definite objects). I could feel myself right on the edge of full visual hallucination; I 'understood' how hallucination worked, how the salvinorum was affecting me, felt like I was right at the starting point of a trip. All sorts of mad **** - it's much more of a mental trip than anything else - acid, for e.g. 'feels' more visual, but salvia made me feel like I knew about the mechanics behind how my brain registered these optical patterns etc. More thought-manipulation than sense-manipulation (you'd have to get to that stage to understand what I'm talking about).

It's not a recreational drug - that was clear (I'd heard people say that before as well). It's an interesting experience, but it's not something I'd repeat regularly for kicks. But I'll get round to going through the 'full out-of-body hallucination' stage some time.

Originally posted by Zascar
Good point mate... I don't do pills either, and i think it would make a difference... The reason I don't do them is the fear that i would like them too much,

thats what i used to say too - and ud be right in saying that...dont touch em they really mess you up

Originally posted by Zaphod B
pffft...

Wahey it makes you slightly more relaxed... like tea...

Complete waste of money; you'll look silly buying legal highs, mostly because you will be silly for buying 'em. So don't tbh.

heroin, cannabis, cocaine were all "legal highs" at one time. a lot of legal highs are bull**** but if you research properly you can get stuff legally here that is illegal in many countries. many plants are still legal since the very fact of banning them will lead to more interest in them. the governments know that many people out there have your attitude of "if its legal it must be crap" so they leave the plants alone.

asha used to sell slavia a few months back. it may be "under the counter" now. if they sold it to a kid they would be screwed