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  • Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭mindhorn


    A few days for a search and you were equipped with a date/placename/etc?

    I'll give them a shout in the morning as I think they've limited opening hours at the moment.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    I had names (it was a marriage) and a rough decade. They weren't able to find it.
    Later discovered it in the UK.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭mindhorn


    They might be closed for the week as I tried calling yesterday and today but no answer. Also popped by and the gates were locked.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Update to the reading room setup, which is reopened now.

    https://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2020/06/gro-research-room-in-dublin-reopens.html

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    One appointment in the morning and one in the afternoon.

    They may as well leave it closed and put their efforts into a better online service.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 683 ✭✭✭KildareFan


    Hermy wrote: »
    One appointment in the morning and one in the afternoon.

    They may as well leave it closed and put their efforts into a better online service.


    Absolutely ridiculous to call that a service. I was so thankful when most of the records I needed moved online. The only research possible in the so called research room is to either pay €20 for a full days searching of the printed indexes or €2 to search five volumes [if my memory serves me well]. There are no computers in the room which could be used for any other type of research.


    Having one solitary person searching at a time is a farce - the room is huge and could easily accommodate many more.


    As Hermy says - let them concentrate on providing an online service and forget the so called research room for the time being.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    I wonder do they mean one slot in the morning/afternoon, rather than one person only.

    It's a massive space.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭crossman47


    pinkypinky wrote: »
    I wonder do they mean one slot in the morning/afternoon, rather than one person only.

    It's a massive space.

    That would be my impression too.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    pinkypinky wrote: »
    I wonder do they mean one slot in the morning/afternoon, rather than one person only.

    It's a massive space.

    I would hope that is what they mean but Claire Santry seems to think otherwise.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Yes, I was talking to her about it.

    I suspect we won't know until someone tries it.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 42 KK Supercats


    I have an appointment for 2.00 tomorrow afternoon. Will let you know the set up once I have finished in the research room.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    How did you get on?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭tabbey


    pinkypinky wrote: »
    Update to the reading room setup, which is reopened now.

    https://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2020/06/gro-research-room-in-dublin-reopens.html

    The NLI and NAI also plan on opening by appointment only, from 29 June.

    To be fair to the NLI, at least it sends emails advising users of the plan; while the NAI does not. I only found out from a member of NAI staff who happened to enter the building as I passed. Indeed the NAI was the only public repository which did not have a Covid notice on the door throughout the lockdown.

    The changes needed for the GRO, NAI and NLI are minimal, hand sanitisers and a degree of social distancing. Unfortunately bureaucratic bodies are prone to use any excuse / circumstance to restrict public service.
    The real danger is that after other restrictions have been relaxed, the national institutions will leave them in place long-term.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,086 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Just on the GRO and appointments etc.. If you need to search the indexes by all means get an appointment, but if you email in your references year/volume/page etc., my experience has been that they have them back in a couple of hours.
    Someone rings you when they are ready and sorts out online payment and then they email you your requested records.

    Please provide the following details

    Births

    Child’s Forename and Surname and one of the following

    Date of Birth, Place of Birth, Mother’s Maiden Name.
    Year, Qtr, Vol, Page Number
    Group Registration Number

    Deaths

    Deceased’s Forename and Surname and one of the following

    Date of Death, Place of Death. Approximate age at the time of death.
    Year, Qtr, Vol, Page Number
    Group Registration Number

    Marriages

    Bride’s Forename and Surname and /or Groom’s Forename and Surname and one of the following.

    Date of Marriage, Place of Marriage,
    Year, Qtr, Vol, Page Number
    Group Registration Number

    Fee per copy is €4.00

    Please email any requests for copies to GROResearchRoom@welfare.ie

    Please provide a contact telephone number and postal address.


    As soon as they are processed a staff member will email you and ask that you call

    +353 (0)1 8940080 to process card payment.


    Once card payment has been authorised your copies will be sent to you via email or by post.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    I've been waiting 3 weeks for one I've ordered directly from Roscommon.

    I'll be doing the above from now on!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 203 ✭✭SophieLockhart


    Is Michael Collins death certificate available would anyone know? I've searched '1922' and 'aged 31' or '32' for all years but it's not showing.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    It might have been registered late - a lot of revolutionary figures weren't registered until this century.

    I'd call the GRO on the phone and ask.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    A regular contributor to the IGP Dublin Facebook page has just posted these links to the civil death records of some of those executed in the aftermath of the 1916 Rising, whose deaths were not registered until the year 2000.

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1916/020453/7178614.pdf

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1916/020453/7178615.pdf

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    I used the reading room email yesterday to get a copy cert - I had it within an hour. Amazing. And they're planning to keep this service up.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭BowWow


    Hopefully the Births(1920), Marriages(1945) and Deaths(1970) will issue before this weekend.
    Last year's upload was on the 8th. January.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    That would be great, but I think wildly optimistic!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    The scans of the earliest records would be far more beneficial (especially to me!:D)


  • Registered Users Posts: 398 ✭✭VirginiaB


    That makes two of us. The oldest death records are often the only link to the late 1700s and early 1800s. Hoping for soon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭BowWow


    BowWow wrote: »
    Hopefully the Births(1920), Marriages(1945) and Deaths(1970) will issue before this weekend.
    Last year's upload was on the 8th. January.

    Only 3 weeks out :p

    https://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2021/02/irishgenealogyie-adds-rolling-year-of.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 751 ✭✭✭p15574


    A 1920 birth I've been waiting on is there alright, but no image. They should have images, shouldn't they?

    Edit: I thought I might be able to find another one from the same month for the area (Caherciveen) and navigate to it that way, but none of them appear to have images


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    If there's no image it might be that other entries on the same page are outside the 100 years cut off.
    Is the birth you're interested in from late in the year?

    If that's not the case you can sometimes get around this by searching the indexes at Family Search for other entries from the same date and location and then looking up those entries at Irish Genealogy.

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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Seem to remember a December '18 birth in my family had no image til 2020 due to a late registration and being on a page of 1919 ones; it definitely happens.


  • Registered Users Posts: 751 ✭✭✭p15574


    Hermy wrote: »
    If there's no image it might be that other entries on the same page are outside the 100 years cut off.
    Is the birth you're interested in from late in the year?

    It's from October 23, but I've just searched for any birth in Cahirciveen for 1920 - there are 374 of them. I've checked ones from January and they have no images either. Some of them (including those for dates after my one) have transcripts - a message at the bottom saying "As no image is available, please click here to view a transcript of the register entry.", but unfortunately, not my one.

    Maybe they're just updating bit by bit, I'll try again in a few weeks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭Waitsian


    I was doing some local history research and came across this snippet in the Newry Reporter dated Nov 25, 1869. The dialogue was taken from a meeting of the Newry Board of Guardians. It demonstrates what we already know - an unwillingness, a reluctance to use, maybe in some cases an ignorance, of the new BMD registration system. They seem to have decided to make a few examples; crack the whip.

    Thought it would just be something to interest everyone.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    That's really interesting to see. Thanks for sharing.

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