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10-07-2019, 09:56   #316
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That's because if there is any encroachment into the fields by hedges or any covers of non agricultural species in any fields, the farmers are fined for allowing that natural cover to grow.

But get this! They will allow you to grow artificial 'natural' covers and pay you for them but only on designated areas.

You couldn't make this stuff up
Is this EU regulations?
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10-07-2019, 10:04   #317
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Is this EU regulations?
Yeah, or at least, the Irish interpretation of those regulations.
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Haven't read the thread, but I find it ironic that many vegans own cats as pets. Cats are obligate carnivores and cannot survive on a meat free diet (ideally their diet is 100% meat).

Realistically vegans should be also campaigning for the end of cats.
why ironic? I am not vegan but . I had a discussion with a sweet vegan lady at the cat food shelves; we love our cats and they are not vegan etc. So they get what they need; period, as our love for them means we care for them.

Nothing ironic and why should vegans campaign like that? They may speak against animals as pets but not to end them!
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There's a food chain respect it.
I very much hope you do. By buying ethically sourced meat. Chances are you're just another low IQ hot chicken roll guzzler. Probably estrogen dominant from all the hormones and antibiotics in the factory farmed meat you consume.
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I very much hope you do. By buying ethically sourced meat. Chances are you're just another low IQ hot chicken roll guzzler. Probably estrogen dominant from all the hormones and antibiotics in the factory farmed meat you consume.
You do know that hormones have been banned for many years here yeah and antibiotic use in animal husbandry is strictly regulated and used for medical purposes only when required?

But hey more bs - what new?

To parody that - 'probably growing man boobs and getting dementia from all that soya crap that you eat' or something ...

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I very much hope you do. By buying ethically sourced meat. Chances are you're just another low IQ hot chicken roll guzzler. Probably estrogen dominant from all the hormones and antibiotics in the factory farmed meat you consume.
I love triggered vegans. Nothing makes me smile more, thanks for making my day
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Just to probe that line of thinking for the fun of it. Could Human Slavery be justified - or at least made less unjustifiable - if the slaves in question were bred under the right conditions?

To use your words as much as possible to word this: If they were bred entirely in captivity - exclusively for the slave industry - and as products - then by the reasoning you offer above they are products and not "wild sentient" and free. So it would be ok? Or at least not as bad? For them to be slaves.

Not sure this line of reasoning works for me. Their level of rights and freedoms should be based on who/what they are - not their pedigree, lineage, or breeding conditions.
Rights and Freedoms are man made concepts to keep the proletariat in their place and stop then from killing each other. It does not apply to animals.
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You do know that hormones have been banned for many years here yeah and antibiotic use in animal husbandry is strictly regulated and used for medical purposes only when required?

I'm not a vegan. And I see you didn't address my point about ethics. That doesn't surprise me, because most of the reactionary anti-vegan cretins on this site and elsewhere are just shallow losers without the moral courage or discipline to find or eat ethically farmed meat. Get back to your half eaten three euro spicy chicken roll with bacon fat boy.

Also, I've worked in a meat packing plant and been involved in animal slaughter, whilst let's face it, your formative life experiences consist of repeated trips to the deli counter in your local Supervalu.

I'm laughing at the idea you think you even know where your meat is coming from.
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I'm not a vegan. And I see you didn't address my point about ethics. That doesn't surprise me, because most of the reactionary anti-vegan cretins on this site and elsewhere are just shallow losers without the moral courage or discipline to find or eat ethically farmed meat. Get back to your half eaten three euro spicy chicken roll with bacon fat boy .Also, I've worked in a meat packing plant and been involved in animal slaughter, whilst let's face it, your formative life experiences consist of repeated trips to the deli counter in your local Supervalu. I'm laughing at the idea you think you even know where your meat is coming from.

Didnt say you were - the soya thing was a parody of your last comment btw. Dont give a donkies about your take on 'ethics' or otherwise considering the crap written about 'hormones' etc

But no I dont like misinformation. Anyway always love the a small number of plant advocates that get all personal and throw ad-hominmens around like they dont have a decent argument to offer. But yes indeed - I am involved with food production, and I know where exactly where my meat is coming from - so I can spot crap like the often repeat bull****e about "hormones and antibiotics" repeated like diarrhoea. Same **** - different thread.

But hey what's new lol

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I love triggered vegans. Nothing makes me smile more, thanks for making my day
All these threads are started by non vegans who feel insecure about the very existence of vegans for some reason
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All these threads are started by non vegans who feel insecure about the very existence of vegans for some reason
Oh so true!.
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I can guarantee it. I’ve been shooting since childhood. I learned from my mistakes at a young age and was brought up proper in hunting. I won’t shoot unless it’s safe and guarantee to be a kill shot.
Now if you can’t understand that then that’s your problem not mine
The Irish Olympic Shooting team doesn't know what its missing.
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The first rule of being a vegan, is letting everyone know your a vegan.

Each to their own I say.
The second rule is treat all animals as if they are human. If a cat kills a mouse he should be arrested for murder in their deluded minds.
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I'm pretty sure 30% or so of India is vegetarian. The planet would be a better place if we all ate less meat. The seas are almost out of fish too.
Did you ever hear of fishing quotas that have been around for years they were brought in to prevent over dissing and there are still plenty fish in the sea.
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Did you ever hear of fishing quotas that have been around for years they were brought in to prevent over dissing and there are still plenty fish in the sea.
Yeah the quotas aren't strict enough
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