Waterford Airport.

Wanderer78 wrote: »

So no staff is currently on pup etc?

That's a cop out if I've ever seen one.

You cannot possibly equate a pandemic payment, available to the furloughed employees of all employers in the state, as being direct state funding, at least in the sense we're talking about.

If that's the point you make, it completely decimates everything else you've said.

In fairness, I had not properly read the post you were replying to.

However, the standard is realistically, do they receive more support than a standard, private institution. Not, did the DOT build roads connecting the airport or did the ESB connect power lines. It is no less self sufficient than your local supermarket.

Anyways, I'm not sure what this has to do with WAT. I appreciate you didn't bring it up, but it's like comparing apples and oranges.

There shouldn't be a necessity that the airport be fully self sufficient, I'm not sure anyone/many are advocating for that, however it can't be a colossal waste of money either, it's simply not a suitable time to plan an international airport. Building it to stimulate reaction in private sector construction doesn't quite meet the mark either.

hardybuck wrote: »

It's a stroke of luck that the project didn't get started 12-24 months ago, as it would have been gathering cobwebs. I think that would have killed the airport in the long term - I don't think it can afford any further failures.

The best case scenario, in my opinion, is for the planning application to be approved in the next few weeks, works could start in the summer or autumn, and maybe completed in time for summer 2023.

It's going to take a long time for tourism and the airline sector to recover and I'd be surprised if the addition of extra capacity in Waterford would be attractive or viable before then (or possibly even by then).

Whether it's a stroke of luck or not probably depends on your perspective really. It's probably stroke of luck for the government, they are going to have their hands full after all this supporting all of the operational airports in Ireland that aren't Dublin. The last thing they would have needed is to have just funded yet another regional airport at a time when demand for air travel is going to be down significantly for a few years at least.

It's definitely not a stroke of luck if you are someone who wanted the runway to be extended - it's very difficult to see the justification for it in the near future now regardless of the planning decision, all available aviation funding is going to have to go towards maintaining the existence of the other, already operational airports. Waterford Airport has fallen on the wrong side of the cutoff line now I think.

^^that's very unfortunate, maybe when new city developments come on stream, expansion will be viable, transport will be critical for their success

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

No doubt if planning permission is granted the next step will be to try to get the whole thing paid for with public funds.

I'm surprised pubic funds were ever put aside if investors like that one were involved at all, and if there wasn't an agreement nailed down setting out who was paying for what.

curmudgeonly wrote: »

An Bord Pleannala were to decide on the 26/02/21 ,still no move on it today, can I hear a can?

If you ring them they'll probably give you an update, but it can take a few days for documents to be uploaded to the website.

curmudgeonly wrote: »

I did, "it's because of the Covid, should be decided within 2 to 3 weeks,but don't hold me to that"

Shameful, we've had over a year to adjust to the new way of working.

invara wrote: »

The Irish Times reporting DAA tenders for eight-year €425m upgrade of Dublin Airport.... no recession there.

Fingers crossed it gets going soon to allow it expand, and allow for more direct flights to long haul destinations.

Teebor15 wrote: »

It states on the Bord Plenala website that an Oral hearing normally take place for Strategic Infrastructure projects & CPO projects. The runway extension ticks both those boxes, so I would say there is a good chance we'll hear about that before any decision is made.

A month later, they'd better hurry up!

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2021/0419/1210762-regional-airport-funding/

Lots of funding for Regional Airports including a €20 million Pot for Dublin, Cork & Shannon but nothing for Waterford

"The scheme, which has an overall budget of €26m, includes compensation of €20m for the country's state airports (Dublin, Cork and Shannon) in light of Covid impacts in 2020."


I bet those airports don't have to jump through hoops to get access to the loot

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Matt Shanahan on WLR talking about the airport on Deise Today at some point (first hour probably)

hopefully current developments will get something going in the airport, we ll need functioning transport systems to make all of these developments work