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General rip off examples

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  • #32
    silver2020
    Registered Users Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭silver2020


    $hifty wrote: »
    494561.jpg

    Found it.

    In fairness, these are €2.59 in tesco, so not a big difference considering the extra costs of a convenience store


  • #33
    high_king
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 418 ✭✭high_king


    steinbock123 wrote: »
    But I think the biggest rip-off ever invented is the "rounding up" lark, where something is priced at €4.97, you hand in a fiver but get no change.

    I remember all the legions of clowns on forums like boards claiming how great an idea it was, and how handy it would be. No concept of the % inflation they conceded to. Turkeys voting for Christmas.


  • #34
    jmreire
    Registered Users Posts: 8,249 ✭✭✭jmreire


    All of the above explains why Tesco Executives call Ireland " Treasure Island ", never a truer word !!! And I guess they are not the only one's,,,,


  • #35
    Cazale
    Registered Users Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Cazale


    $hifty wrote:
    McHughs Off-Licence Picture below. R.I.P. the old six-for-fiver days

    It's a 9% Double IPA which is what they cost.


  • #36
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    high_king wrote: »
    I remember all the legions of clowns on forums like boards claiming how great an idea it was, and how handy it would be. No concept of the % inflation they conceded to. Turkeys voting for Christmas.

    4.97 in the quoted example rounds down to 4.95

    Unless you specifically only buy one or two items all the time you are very unlikely to end up over or under across an entire year on it.

    2c on an average family shop would not even factor in to inflation; not that rounding is even counted in the CPI.

    Would you prefer to pay more tax - more per capita than any potential loss of surreal shopping practices - for the state to keep making 1c and 2c coins?


    Its more a case of those who don't understand it complaining about it, both before and after.


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  • #37
    dartboardio
    Registered Users Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    Circle K biggest rip off ever imo. Hate going there in the morning before work. €2 minimum for a bottle of water.

    Oh actually in relation to the rounding rule, I was in MR price and bought a couple of things, it came to €5.05, I gave her the fiver and went to look for some change in my purse and she laughed and said 'you're grand, I'm not gonna ask you for 5 cent!'

    I was like wtf, didn't realise the rounding rule works the other way, maybe it doesn't and she shouldn't be doing it I thought, who knows! Or is it at retailers discretion?


  • #38
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    dartboardio wrote: »
    Circle K biggest rip off ever imo. Hate going there in the morning before work. €2 minimum for a bottle of water.

    Oh actually in relation to the rounding rule, I was in MR price and bought a couple of things, it came to €5.05, I gave her the fiver and went to look for some change in my purse and she laughed and said 'you're grand, I'm not gonna ask you for 5 cent!'

    I was like wtf, didn't realise the rounding rule works the other way, maybe it doesn't and she shouldn't be doing it I thought, who knows! Or is it at retailers discretion?

    €5.05 doesn't round to anything, its still €5.05. Retailer can decide to charge you fractionally less if they want to!


  • #39
    pummice
    Registered Users Posts: 239 ✭✭pummice


    Sadly in Ireland €50 is the new €20


  • #40
    Oberkon
    Registered Users Posts: 206 ✭✭Oberkon


    jmreire wrote: »
    All of the above explains why Tesco Executives call Ireland " Treasure Island ", never a truer word !!! And I guess they are not the only one's,,,,


    So true - my wife’s friends are English and they really are frugal dividing things down to the penny when out together etc . Complaining how expensive things are here etc


  • #41
    dartboardio
    Registered Users Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    pummice wrote: »
    Sadly in Ireland €50 is the new €20

    Definitely. Go into the local off licence to get some vodka and cigarettes for before a night out and end up spending €25

    Went to the bagel factory today and had €5 change from €20 out of two bagels, one crisps and a soft drink

    You really notice it when you go to other countries, anywhere really, Germany for example, transport is cheap as is food in supermarkets, alcohol, fags etc

    Even UK, 8 pounds for a box of cigarettes. €13.50 here....


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  • #42
    silver2020
    Registered Users Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭silver2020


    Oberkon wrote: »
    So true - my wife’s friends are English and they really are frugal dividing things down to the penny when out together etc . Complaining how expensive things are here etc

    That would have been true a few years ago. Its now turned (thanks to aldi & lidl) and a general grocery shop in britain is more expensive (I've just returned after a 12 month stint there)

    Of course if you just hone in on offers, you can make a case of x y & z being cheaper while ignoring the offers here of a, b & c. But life can't be lived on special offers alone.

    It's also one of the reasons you don't hear of big shopping expeditions to Newry/Enniskillen from all corners of Ireland anymore


  • #43
    somesoldiers
    Registered Users Posts: 13,845 ✭✭✭✭somesoldiers


    dartboardio wrote: »
    Definitely. Go into the local off licence to get some vodka and cigarettes for before a night out and end up spending €25

    Went to the bagel factory today and had €5 change from €20 out of two bagels, one crisps and a soft drink

    You really notice it when you go to other countries, anywhere really, Germany for example, transport is cheap as is food in supermarkets, alcohol, fags etc

    Even UK, 8 pounds for a box of cigarettes. €13.50 here....

    I still have the odd smoke when am out, I have lads in the office that regularly go to Vilnius so get them to pick me up 200 for €39


  • #44
    Buddy97mm
    Registered Users Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Buddy97mm


    dartboardio wrote:
    Even UK, 8 pounds for a box of cigarettes. €13.50 here....


    Long time since cigarettes were
    £8 in UK, more like £11/12 currently and have been regarded as more expensive than Ireland for cigarettes for some time.


  • #45
    high_king
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 418 ✭✭high_king


    L1011 wrote: »
    4.97 in the quoted example rounds down to 4.95

    Unless you specifically only buy one or two items all the time you are very unlikely to end up over or under across an entire year on it.

    2c on an average family shop would not even factor in to inflation; not that rounding is even counted in the CPI.

    Would you prefer to pay more tax - more per capita than any potential loss of surreal shopping practices - for the state to keep making 1c and 2c coins?

    Its more a case of those who don't understand it complaining about it, both before and after.

    and whoosh over you head again . . another Turkey looking forward to Christmas dinner. The actual point you've your head in the sand about, is that we were promised and told we must believe that rounding down would be as common as rounding up, but in the rip off real world . .surprise . . surprise . .this isn't happening as plenty of posters have testified, with shops claiming they are not obliged to round down, but round up whenever it suits them.


  • #46
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    high_king wrote: »
    and whoosh over you head again . . another Turkey looking forward to Christmas dinner. The actual point you've your head in the sand about, is that we were promised and told we must believe that rounding down would be as common as rounding up, but in the rip off real world . .surprise . . surprise . .this isn't happening as plenty of posters have testified, with shops claiming they are not obliged to round down, but round up whenever it suits them.

    What you claim isn't happening and even if it was you might end up down a few cent over a year. Till systems do the rounding automatically and one or two confused posters or posters reporting an occasional mistake doesn't mean it isn't being done properly the bulk of the time. Also - if you think there's any advantage to a retailer in holding on to at most five cent, in coin, on a fraction of transactions you have no idea of the cost and effort of coin handling.

    Just pay by card if it annoys you that much. Or ask for your change and probably get 5c back as they don't have the small coins. Which most people will promptly fire in to a jar to never spend again


  • #47
    dartboardio
    Registered Users Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    Buddy97mm wrote: »
    Long time since cigarettes were
    £8 in UK, more like £11/12 currently and have been regarded as more expensive than Ireland for cigarettes for some time.

    Well NI, then...

    Was in Belfast in August and got charged around 8 pounds for a box. To my disbelief.. Guess they've been forgotten about, as per!


  • #48
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    I paid over £12 last time I bought 20 Benson in Banbridge. I know they vary a lot more by brand than we do here, what were they?


  • #49
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    48 euro per kilo Roquefort in Sheridans.

    https://sheridanscheesemongers.com/product/roquefort-aoc/


  • #50
    dartboardio
    Registered Users Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    I paid over £12 last time I bought 20 Benson in Banbridge. I know they vary a lot more by brand than we do here, what were they?

    Ah, must be because I bought a cheaper brand, Pall Mall or Mayfair or something like that


  • #51
    antimatterx
    Registered Users Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    Eir - ****ing robbing bastards.

    Last year I signed up for Eirsports so I could get BT Sports for Sky. It was 240 for 12 months.

    During the summer they lost the rights to BT Sport, so my sub was basically useless (although they got the rights back a month later, but refused to put it back in the package). I bought it through Sky again as it was an option.

    So anyway, last week the year was up, and they attempted to charge my card for another year (Lucky that card was expired) - 260 they wanted.

    The only way to get rid of them was sign up to a 9.99/month deal and cancel after two months (for a service I will never use)


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  • #52
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    antimatterx wrote: »
    Eir - ****ing robbing bastards.

    Last year I signed up for Eirsports so I could get BT Sports for Sky. It was 240 for 12 months.

    During the summer they lost the rights to BT Sport, so my sub was basically useless (although they got the rights back a month later, but refused to put it back in the package). I bought it through Sky again as it was an option.

    So anyway, last week the year was up, and they attempted to charge my card for another year (Lucky that card was expired) - 260 they wanted.

    The only way to get rid of them was sign up to a 9.99/month deal and cancel after two months (for a service I will never use)

    Eircon. The scummiest company in Ireland.


  • #53
    high_king
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 418 ✭✭high_king


    L1011 wrote: »
    What you claim isn't happeningand even if it was you might end up down a few cent over a year. Till systems do the rounding automatically and one or two confused posters or posters reporting an occasional mistake doesn't mean it isn't being done properly the bulk of the time. Also - if you think there's any advantage to a retailer in holding on to at most five cent, in coin, on a fraction of transactions you have no idea of the cost and effort of coin handling.

    Just pay by card if it annoys you that much. Or ask for your change and probably get 5c back as they don't have the small coins. Which most people will promptly fire in to a jar to never spend again

    Any yet plenty of posts on this thread have testified it has. No one being ripped off is "confused" as you would like to pretend, as the posters here have testified examples where they knew exactly what is going on. Cash is legal tender for now, until those who would like to control and monitor ordinary people going about their private business and confiscate and freeze their money at will have full control . . but they don't yet, so tough.


  • #54
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    You have been given two potential methods to avoid losing a whole two cents.

    If you think that's a rip off by any standards you live in a bubble.


    Our insurance costs (due to huge payouts) are a rip off. Our mortgage rates (due to no repossessions) are a rip off.

    People getting worked up and abusive over extremely rare examples of not getting 2c back is not a rip off.


  • #55
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    L1011 wrote: »
    You have been given two potential methods to avoid losing a whole two cents.

    If you think that's a rip off by any standards you live in a bubble.

    It’s not about the two cents, it’s about them just being allowed to do it. The very way they were allowed to round £1 to 1.50 euro back in the currency change. It represents a wider gouging problem. Going on about the 2 cents is just being flippant to people. It shouldn’t be happening.


  • #56
    L1011
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    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    It’s not about the two cents, it’s about them just being allowed to do it. The very way they were allowed to round £1 to 1.50 euro back in the currency change. It represents a wider gouging problem. Going on about the 2 cents is just being flippant to people. It shouldn’t be happening.

    Except it's *extremely rare*. There are a tiny few complaints about it here - and people don't post when things go right.


  • #57
    high_king
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 418 ✭✭high_king


    L1011 wrote: »
    You have been given two potential methods to avoid losing a whole two cents.

    If you think that's a rip off by any standards you live in a bubble.

    Our insurance costs (due to huge payouts) are a rip off. Our mortgage rates (due to no repossessions) are a rip off.

    People getting worked up and abusive over extremely rare examples of not getting 2c back is not a rip off.

    You mean people won't live in the control bubble you'd like create. Tough.

    If you're ripped off by 2% net in every Euro transaction, that's very significant.

    Just because you're either a chump or a rip off merchant yourself . . don't expect others to play along.


  • #58
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    high_king wrote: »
    You mean people won't live in the control bubble you'd like create. Tough.

    If you're ripped off by 2% net in every Euro transaction, that's very significant, you're either a chump or a rip off merchant yourself . . but don't expect others to play along.

    You spend all your money on 98c products one at a time? Just ask for the change. You'll probably get a 5c coin

    Please go grind your axe somewhere else. This is not a widespread issue worthy of this forum. And it is completely avoidable

    You can take the conspiracy theories elsewhere too


  • #59
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    L1011 wrote: »
    Except it's *extremely rare*. There are a tiny few complaints about it here - and people don't post when things go right.

    It isn't extremely rare. This is one thing you can't Google, it's happening all over the country. Unless it's just happening to me which is unlikely bordering on impossible.


  • #60
    high_king
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 418 ✭✭high_king


    L1011 wrote: »
    You spend all your money on 98c products one at a time? Just ask for the change. You'll probably get a 5c coin

    Please go grind your axe somewhere else. This is not a widespread issue worthy of this forum. And it is completely avoidable

    You can take the conspiracy theories elsewhere too

    You can pretend what people have posted, pretend there is no issue, and then threaten people when they speak the truth . . but it won't change the truth, so ban whoever you're going to ban with your little censor button.


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  • #61
    L1011
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    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    It isn't extremely rare. This is one thing you can't Google, it's happening all over the country. Unless it's just happening to me which is unlikely bordering on impossible.

    Ask for your change then. Problem solved.


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