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Newbridge Chat Thread

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  • #722
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    TCP/IP wrote: »
    Dont get me wrong I wish a wine buff was sustainable but its more charity shops than wine buffs that is suitable for the town, and this is coming from someone that has lived in it for about 12 years.

    the demographics arent the issue imo there's plenty money in it, it's the shite layout of the town coupled with the shite traffic that's killing all of the small businesses, add in online shopping and whitewater to that also.

    Nicks fish was a huge feckin loss too, Dunnes counter is grand but it's just not the same.


  • #723
    TCP/IP
    Subscribers Posts: 3,698 ✭✭✭TCP/IP


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    the demographics arent the issue imo there's plenty money in it, it's the shite layout of the town coupled with the shite traffic that's killing all of the small businesses, add in online shopping and whitewater to that also.

    Nicks fish was a huge feckin loss too, Dunnes counter is grand but it's just not the same.

    Agree Nicks was a big loss. Just look at the Naas Dunne’s and the Newbridge Dunne’s massive difference in quality of meat and fish.


  • #724
    SATSUMA
    Registered Users Posts: 706 ✭✭✭SATSUMA


    Millfield saga continues...

    https://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/home/488486/newbridge-councillor-criticises-lack-of-communication-re-millfield-fire-remediations.html

    There seems alot for sale in Millfield now, perhaps this is why?


  • #725
    WishUWereHere
    Registered Users Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    SATSUMA wrote: »
    Millfield saga continues...

    https://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/home/488486/newbridge-councillor-criticises-lack-of-communication-re-millfield-fire-remediations.html

    There seems alot for sale in Millfield now, perhaps this is why?


    Took FOUR years to get this far? Our beloved Town has been screaming for a secondary school, looking at the latest Edition of the LL re a second bridge over THe Liffey, & at the same time Newbridge is nearly gridlocked most mornings, evenings and Saturdays???

    I just wonder will we ever get a politician who is PROactive, not REactive?


  • #726
    Damien360
    Registered Users Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭Damien360


    WishUWereHere wrote: »
    Took FOUR years to get this far? Our beloved Town has been screaming for a secondary school, looking at the latest Edition of the LL re a second bridge over THe Liffey, & at the same time Newbridge is nearly gridlocked most mornings, evenings and Saturdays???

    I just wonder will we ever get a politician who is PROactive, not REactive?

    There won’t be a new secondary school. The patrician secondary has permission to develop much bigger and take more pupils. I can’t see anything coming for girls secondary right now in plans.

    Where would you put the bridge ? The plan was to cut across the fields in front of the college but they quickly put a stop to that. Another bridge would have to meet somewhere out by the graveyard. But then it would come through and meet the traffic coming out of the industrial estate into town again.

    The whitewater junction sends traffic into town. It should be the other direction. But if you look at the other side, by Lidl, those lights cause gridlock as traffic enters from the newbridge silverware industrial estate and cannot proceed. That blocks all the way back to McD’s most weekends.

    The back street is a dump and business dies back there very quickly. Clear all parking along it and make it a one way but in which direction as each side will cause gridlock.

    The town centre needs a lift. Pound shops and estate agents are not the answer.


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  • #727
    NSAman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,386 ✭✭✭NSAman


    Damien360 wrote: »
    There won’t be a new secondary school. The patrician secondary has permission to develop much bigger and take more pupils. I can’t see anything coming for girls secondary right now in plans.

    Where would you put the bridge ? The plan was to cut across the fields in front of the college but they quickly put a stop to that. Another bridge would have to meet somewhere out by the graveyard. But then it would come through and meet the traffic coming out of the industrial estate into town again.

    The whitewater junction sends traffic into town. It should be the other direction. But if you look at the other side, by Lidl, those lights cause gridlock as traffic enters from the newbridge silverware industrial estate and cannot proceed. That blocks all the way back to McD’s most weekends.

    The back street is a dump and business dies back there very quickly. Clear all parking along it and make it a one way but in which direction as each side will cause gridlock.

    The town centre needs a lift. Pound shops and estate agents are not the answer.

    One way system,,,, Newbridge is perfect for it!


  • #728
    WishUWereHere
    Registered Users Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    Damien360 wrote: »
    There won’t be a new secondary school. The patrician secondary has permission to develop much bigger and take more pupils. I can’t see anything coming for girls secondary right now in plans.

    Where would you put the bridge ? The plan was to cut across the fields in front of the college but they quickly put a stop to that. Another bridge would have to meet somewhere out by the graveyard. But then it would come through and meet the traffic coming out of the industrial estate into town again.

    The whitewater junction sends traffic into town. It should be the other direction. But if you look at the other side, by Lidl, those lights cause gridlock as traffic enters from the newbridge silverware industrial estate and cannot proceed. That blocks all the way back to McD’s most weekends.

    The back street is a dump and business dies back there very quickly. Clear all parking along it and make it a one way but in which direction as each side will cause gridlock.

    The town centre needs a lift. Pound shops and estate agents are not the answer.

    You raise very valid points Damien. I don't have the answer re the 2nd bridge, but whenever an election is in the offing then the prospective politicians are all mouth about this and other factors regarding the gridlocking in the town.

    I live in Roseberry Hill, and directly across the road from our entrance approximately 85 houses were built, and the field directly across from the entrance to Sarsfields has PP for 400 ( again approx. ) houses.

    Yet, we have to go over a narrow bridge to get anywhere. It's crazy what's going on and it seems the politicians don't give a crap.

    On the secondary school, I'll NEVER understand why ET didn't get PP to build a secondary. At one stage there was even talk of them taking over a building out on The Curragh. But no, now my Daughter has to go to Kilcullen for secondary.

    To the OP who says that Newbridge is perfect for a one-way system, please can You say how the artics will get to Penney's/Dunnes/Tesco etc? I'm not doubting You, but I wonder how the 40ft's will get there, or away from their destination.


  • #729
    tossy
    Registered Users Posts: 9,587 ✭✭✭tossy


    WishUWereHere wrote: »
    You raise very valid points Damien. I don't have the answer re the 2nd bridge, but whenever an election is in the offing then the prospective politicians are all mouth about this and other factors regarding the gridlocking in the town.

    I live in Roseberry Hill, and directly across the road from our entrance approximately 85 houses were built, and the field directly across from the entrance to Sarsfields has PP for 400 ( again approx. ) houses.

    Yet, we have to go over a narrow bridge to get anywhere. It's crazy what's going on and it seems the politicians don't give a crap.

    On the secondary school, I'll NEVER understand why ET didn't get PP to build a secondary. At one stage there was even talk of them taking over a building out on The Curragh. But no, now my Daughter has to go to Kilcullen for secondary.

    To the OP who says that Newbridge is perfect for a one-way system, please can You say how the artics will get to Penney's/Dunnes/Tesco etc? I'm not doubting You, but I wonder how the 40ft's will get there, or away from their destination.

    I posted the below last year, it's only gotten worse since. Quite often on a weekday evening traffic congestion in the town is what you would have only seen at Christmas time. Also i don't know if it's temporary or not but the new road built from the dual carriage way to the roundabout at Lidl/Murphy international seems to be only accessible from the new roundabout on the dual carriageway and is not a through road. I hope the plan is to open this up as it would make a massive difference to morning and evening traffic leaving/entering the town from that side.
    tossy wrote: »
    As far as i'm aware none of the lights on the main road via Newbridge work on sensors, they are just on a set sequence so have no ability to adjust.

    The Cutlery road should be one way in the opposite direction and access to the white water car park on the cutlery road should have never been granted permission. Same with the entrance to Mcdonalds and tescos - there shouldn't be traffic lights installed to facilitate retail outlets - it's a joke.

    The road that runs behind Mcdonalds and Finlays should be made one way, from the town end outwards.


  • #730
    silverview
    Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭silverview


    https://www.kildarenow.com/news/home/489793/new-restaurant-in-newbridge-gets-the-green-light-from-council.html

    Any idea what kind of a restaurant it is? Really hope its nice as it would be great to have some place new to eat in the town.


  • #731
    Cazale
    Registered Users Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Cazale


    silverview wrote:
    Any idea what kind of a restaurant it is? Really hope its nice as it would be great to have some place new to eat in the town.

    Thai station. They are in Sallins and Kildare town too.


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  • #732
    ABitFedUp
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭ABitFedUp


    WishUWereHere wrote: »
    Took FOUR years to get this far? Our beloved Town has been screaming for a secondary school, looking at the latest Edition of the LL re a second bridge over THe Liffey, & at the same time Newbridge is nearly gridlocked most mornings, evenings and Saturdays???

    I just wonder will we ever get a politician who is PROactive, not REactive?

    Funding for a second bridge was never fought for by the council, they will just make paying for it a condition of planning for whoever is developing the site beside the gables and the sites beside Wellesley Manor. Cairn Homes has to upgrade roads in Maynooth for their latest development there. While I have my own opinions on local councillors I think Kildare county council is the main body responsible as it allowed overdevelopment of urban areas without adequate infrastructure by certain favoured developers during the boom just to benefit from the rates received regardless of any duty of care to existing residents in an area. Any decent planning authority could have seen the over crowding in the local primary schools here in newbridge 8-12 years was going to have a knock on effect at second level but I think KCC’s attitude at the time was there is/would be capacity in Naas, then Naas had an explosion in development and now it has a schools crisis of its own... I could be wrong but I think KCC is an old boys club that has operated in the dark ages since it’s inception....


  • #733
    chancer007
    Registered Users Posts: 331 ✭✭chancer007


    any good wine shops around now that the wine buff has closed?


  • #734
    Cazale
    Registered Users Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Cazale


    chancer007 wrote:
    any good wine shops around now that the wine buff has closed?

    O'Briens outside the whitewater probably your best bet.


  • #735
    silverview
    Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭silverview


    https://www.kildarenow.com/news/news/494397/mini-shopping-centre-with-fuel-station-being-planned-for-newbridge.html?fbclid=IwAR0XvoXnQJVPvSpB_VR5NAjfB6ZD1L9A1Lee9lPnII2G5n3I6rflXWHk7jA

    This would be fantastic for that area of Newbridge. Also be great to see something done with that field.


  • #736
    Damien360
    Registered Users Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭Damien360


    silverview wrote: »
    https://www.kildarenow.com/news/news/494397/mini-shopping-centre-with-fuel-station-being-planned-for-newbridge.html?fbclid=IwAR0XvoXnQJVPvSpB_VR5NAjfB6ZD1L9A1Lee9lPnII2G5n3I6rflXWHk7jA

    This would be fantastic for that area of Newbridge. Also be great to see something done with that field.

    This was applied for previously and rejected. Apartments planned. Same as the ones currently at that site. Unnecessary petrol station at that location anyway. Retail units ? A lot of housing planned up at the crossroads and surrounding area so it will be congested and there were plans to have an exit out on to Milltown road coming out beside the Dept of Defence so I’m guessing it will be a crossroads using the existing lights.

    Spin closed on that site on insurance costs so there won’t be amenities other than shops. Same shop setup as Curragh Grange would be my guess.

    I believe drainage was an issue cited previously in last rejection and I can’t remember any works to fix that since.


  • #737
    WishUWereHere
    Registered Users Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    silverview wrote: »
    https://www.kildarenow.com/news/news/494397/mini-shopping-centre-with-fuel-station-being-planned-for-newbridge.html?fbclid=IwAR0XvoXnQJVPvSpB_VR5NAjfB6ZD1L9A1Lee9lPnII2G5n3I6rflXWHk7jA

    This would be fantastic for that area of Newbridge. Also be great to see something done with that field.

    Aside from the people/businesses involved in the construction work, please tell us just how this is supposed to be fantastic for the area?

    Damian is spot on with what He says above. I'm from the area, and the only benefit I could envisage by this building going in is that it might wake up Centra and force them to lower their prices.

    Otherwise? It's very hard to see just how this is of benefit to us? It will only generate more traffic, and believe me it's a joke what we have to do to get onto the M7. 3 choices, a) go over a traffic light controlled bridge, b) go over a very narrow bridge or c) add to the gridlock that is already Main Street. And remember this is before a sod of turf has been laid on the ( approx. ) 400 houses to be built in the field directly across from the entrance to Sarsfields. And we already have just seen 80 odd houses built opposite the entrance to RH.

    Something else which I am not sure if it's permitted or not: A school directly beside petrol pumps? Is there a minimum distance between them? I don't know, but I would think there must be.

    So, fantastic news? I think not!


  • #738
    tommyboy26
    Registered Users Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭tommyboy26


    I would have to disagree with you both. With the over crowding of houses there already and the over 400 planned to be built I would say this development would be necessary. For the following reasons.

    1) the petrol station. With the building of all the houses the people who buy them will need to fuel there cars. Otherwise they all have to come into the town to get petrol causing an already bad traffic problem to get even worse.

    2) the shops. You cant build that amount of houses without amenities close to service them.

    With that said I think it's crazy that this is needed. The 400 houses should never of been giving planning permission as those roads cant take the extra traffic it has now. If those houses were not to be built I would agree that this development would be unnecessary. The sad fact is that they are been built and if the council don't care about the infrastructure to deal with the extra traffic at least try build services to keep some of those cars coming into the town.


  • #739
    silverview
    Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭silverview


    WishUWereHere wrote: »

    Otherwise? It's very hard to see just how this is of benefit to us? It will only generate more traffic, and believe me it's a joke what we have to do to get onto the M7. 3 choices, a) go over a traffic light controlled bridge, b) go over a very narrow bridge or c) add to the gridlock that is already Main Street. And remember this is before a sod of turf has been laid on the ( approx. ) 400 houses to be built in the field directly across from the entrance to Sarsfields. And we already have just seen 80 odd houses built opposite the entrance to RH.


    So, fantastic news? I think not!

    You are complaining about the extra houses across the road from Sarsfields... That's happening regardless of what we think about it, i agree with you re the bridges and more traffic etc... planning permission should never have been granted.

    Where i'm coming from i'm happy that its not more houses going in on that site in Station Road, petrol station, restaurant, shops etc... is better than more houses... Also it should mean that there will now be an entrance to the paddocks from station road which is badly needed instead of traffic bombing through the Meadows.


  • #740
    GavMan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭GavMan


    WishUWereHere wrote: »
    Aside from the people/businesses involved in the construction work, please tell us just how this is supposed to be fantastic for the area?

    Damian is spot on with what He says above. I'm from the area, and the only benefit I could envisage by this building going in is that it might wake up Centra and force them to lower their prices.

    Otherwise? It's very hard to see just how this is of benefit to us? It will only generate more traffic, and believe me it's a joke what we have to do to get onto the M7. 3 choices, a) go over a traffic light controlled bridge, b) go over a very narrow bridge or c) add to the gridlock that is already Main Street. And remember this is before a sod of turf has been laid on the ( approx. ) 400 houses to be built in the field directly across from the entrance to Sarsfields. And we already have just seen 80 odd houses built opposite the entrance to RH.

    Something else which I am not sure if it's permitted or not: A school directly beside petrol pumps? Is there a minimum distance between them? I don't know, but I would think there must be.

    So, fantastic news? I think not!

    Well the 400 houses are coming. Should they be coming with nothing in place to service them and keep cars out of the town.

    I think we can all get behind the notion that access to that side of the town must improve but both do not need to be mutually exclusive events.

    My own take is that competition for Centra up there is a good thing. Certainly station users such as myself would make use of it. Grab one or 2 things that you might have had to stop for and then head straight for home.

    As for access, what is the solution to take traffic out of bottom of the town? If you replace the small bridge you're still putting traffic into the town and over bridge at the church


  • #741
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Having a fuel station on that side of town is a badly needed fecking godsend, how anyone could be against that idea is baffling.


    Also - what school would be directly beside this development?


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  • #742
    tommyboy26
    Registered Users Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭tommyboy26


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    Having a fuel station on that side of town is a badly needed fecking godsend, how anyone could be against that idea is baffling.


    Also - what school would be directly beside this development?

    st marks school for special needs kids


  • #743
    Darc19
    Registered Users Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    WishUWereHere wrote: »

    Something else which I am not sure if it's permitted or not: A school directly beside petrol pumps? Is there a minimum distance between them? I don't know, but I would think there must be.

    So, fantastic news? I think not!

    Why on earth would there be a restriction on having a fuel station next to a school?


  • #744
    Damien360
    Registered Users Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭Damien360


    Darc19 wrote: »
    Why on earth would there be a restriction on having a fuel station next to a school?

    Even from a practical point of view of having a lot traffic turning across a path into a petrol station as kids pass by the entrance at school times it would be dangerous.

    Anyway, St Marks does not have kids walking to the school as it is a special school and most of the kids wouldn’t be safe/capable of walking that journey.

    KCC did an extensive survey of the site in relation to drainage with respect to waste water and found it to be severely lacking in the last application. This was in relation to the many apartments planned.


  • #745
    Darc19
    Registered Users Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    Practicalities, yes. But a restriction???

    I know plenty of schools next to or opposite fuel stations.

    Doesn't seem to cause any issues, so obviously no actual restrictions exist.


  • #746
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    tommyboy26 wrote: »
    st marks school for special needs kids

    There's a house directly beside it, St.Marks is the other side of the house


  • #747
    tommyboy26
    Registered Users Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭tommyboy26


    does anyone here get the jjkavanagh bus from newbridge to kilcullen in the morning. i am trying to figure out the stops on that route


  • #748
    Ken.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    tommyboy26 wrote: »
    does anyone here get the jjkavanagh bus from newbridge to kilcullen in the morning. i am trying to figure out the stops on that route

    https://jjkavanagh.ie/timetable-detail-page/?RouteNo=129O&IsWeb=0&IsCollegeRoute=0&Direction=0&RGrp=Town%20%20City%20Services


  • #749
    tommyboy26
    Registered Users Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭tommyboy26


    Nosnon wrote: »
    https://jjkavanagh.ie/timetable-detail-page/?RouteNo=129O&IsWeb=0&IsCollegeRoute=0&Direction=0&RGrp=Town%20%20City%20Services

    yea i know that.

    sorry maybe i didn't explain what i meant correctly.

    The bord na mona(whitewater) stop. where is it?

    I was hoping someone who travelled on the bus could tell me where it is. i thought it was across the road from charlie ryans but i have missed the bus twice standing there at that spot


  • #750
    GavMan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭GavMan


    tommyboy26 wrote: »
    does anyone here get the jjkavanagh bus from newbridge to kilcullen in the morning. i am trying to figure out the stops on that route

    I don't but I'm fairly sure it picks up at the Electricity boxes across from JL Bradshaw's on the road out to Athgarvan.


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  • #751
    pat1981
    Registered Users Posts: 194 ✭✭pat1981


    Any news on whats happening with the sale of bru house, seems to be on the market a while, nice pub would be glad to see it reopened soon.


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