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27-07-2020, 09:32   #31
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Off out now to crack open the plugs....hopefully, and do a compression check to see
if its in a condition to fire.

Wish me luck
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27-07-2020, 10:06   #32
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2 down 2 to go
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27-07-2020, 10:47   #33
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I think it's a left over from the previous owner
I just read Kadman's post again about bringing the sand from the coast.
Boy did I completely get that one wrong.
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27-07-2020, 10:49   #34
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Second 2 plugs out. All came out without serious hassle.

Plug condition is ok, number 4 has a slight oil residue on the plug.

So at the moment if there is an engine issue, its possibly a broken oil control
ring on number 4.

Next thing is a charged battery a long crank to get oil around the rings and pistons,

and then a compression test
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Can I suggest videos of each stage and post them up? Would make a great YouTube series.
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Here is the full pressed steel floor of the type 3.
And as you can see the central spine is not visible as the floor pan is a single complete pressed panel.
here is one i prepared earlier,

For comparison/interest attached is a scan from my 1956 Beetle instruction Manual.
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I think when it's restored and running around, Kadman should offer a ride to Alfa Beta and Alfa Beta's Mom. I bet herself would love it. Put a few chestnuts in the glove box!
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Quick update.

Got all the plugs out , installed battery and turned key....nothing. Quick investigation around the dash area revealed the following.
2 aircraft switches installed just below the dash??

One switch turns on the ignition and oil lights.
Other switch activavtes the starter circuit, which dims only.
This says that power is getting to the solenoid, and its consuming power by dimming
There fore either the starter is seized and consuming power trying to turn,
or faulty solenoid. Either is easily rectified.

But I need my high scissor lift to get at it, I am way too old for lying in the yard If I lay down I might not get up

I think I might leave the aircraft switches in, as it was a cool 50 year old workaround, and is still functioning.

So just to give you a few pics....

This shows how solid the floorpan is



Jacking point is still solid but full of sand



Original german 67 exhaust, still solid. And the rear
valance normally takes a beating, but here its basically unmarked,



And a working water chute to eliminate water from building up under the rear wings, still surviving is unheard of.
It still opens and closes freely, and has the original flap rubber.




And last but not least a glimpse into the engine. very very clean for 53 years

old,





Luvverly, jubbly
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I think when it's restored and running around, Kadman should offer a ride to Alfa Beta and Alfa Beta's Mom. I bet herself would love it. Put a few chestnuts in the glove box!
Offer was made the day it was collected
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Quick update.

Got all the plugs out , installed battery and turned key....nothing. Quick investigation around the dash area revealed the following.
2 aircraft switches installed just below the dash??

One switch turns on the ignition and oil lights.
Other switch activavtes the starter circuit, which dims only.
This says that power is getting to the solenoid, and its consuming power by dimming
There fore either the starter is seized and consuming power trying to turn,
or faulty solenoid. Either is easily rectified.


I think I might leave the aircraft switches in, as it was a cool 50 year old workaround, and is still functioning.
I got a right chuckle reading this post! I remember back in the late 80’s my dad had a Renault 18. I can’t remember if he lost the key or broke it in the ignition, but rather than replace the ignition barrel he did the exact same as above and had two toggle switches on the centre console for the ignition and to start the car. He used to cover them over with a motorists prayer card so they couldn’t be seen when the car was parked up!!
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Can I suggest videos of each stage and post them up? Would make a great YouTube series.

Thats the plan as soon as I can get a working starter, which wont happen until I can get it on my scissor lift which will be tomorrow.
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Great to see some progress with this.

Was it determined why the car was originally parked up? Or did it just become surplus to requirements at some point?
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Great to see some progress with this.

Was it determined why the car was originally parked up? Or did it just become surplus to requirements at some point?

Probably rustproofed when laid up. Looks great, could you turn over the engine with a spanner? Se if it turns anyway.
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Probably rustproofed when laid up. Looks great, could you turn over the engine with a spanner? Se if it turns anyway.
Not sure exactly why the car was laid up. And on initial inspections of the engine, it has not become apparent yet as to the cause.

Compression test will tell loads. It will tell if the pistons and heads can provide enough compression to actually start this engine.

If there is compression, then its down to fuel delivery and spark. Simples.
As soon as I get it on the lift, I will lift out the starter, clean and check it.

I know the power to the starter circuit works ok.

Engine is turning ok, with no stiff spots in the turning.

So far things are still looking ok.

There is no power to the automatic chokes, not even leads. And the electromagnetic fuel jets on the right hand carb do not have a power source either, which is unusual.

Unless of course the jet is set to manual working by the slotted screw. Something I have not checked on the jet body yet.
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Not sure exactly why the car was laid up. And on initial inspections of the engine, it has not become apparent yet as to the cause.

Compression test will tell loads. It will tell if the pistons and heads can provide enough compression to actually start this engine.

If there is compression, then its down to fuel delivery and spark. Simples.
As soon as I get it on the lift, I will lift out the starter, clean and check it.

I know the power to the starter circuit works ok.

Engine is turning ok, with no stiff spots in the turning.

So far things are still looking ok.

There is no power to the automatic chokes, not even leads. And the electromagnetic fuel jets on the right hand carb do not have a power source either, which is unusual.

Unless of course the jet is set to manual working by the slotted screw. Something I have not checked on the jet body yet.
Thats very strange electrics...the chokes are electrically turned off and kept off after warming up the engine from cold,,,, the current heats up a metal spring in the carb and it expands, turning off the choke. I'd say if you back track along the loom, you will find the missing cables ( or where they should be ) is there current coming to the distributor?
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