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16-05-2020, 13:13   #1
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Restorer recommendations, Dublin

I have a car that I'd like to get restored. Would anyone have recommendations in and around the Dublin area?

The body is in fairly good condition. Main rust is around wheel arches. I've two new panels for front wheel arches so it's only rear that needs serious work.

Apart from the rear wheel arches it's just basically a full stripping down and respray that I need.

It's not something I have any time lines on so I'm happy to leave it with someone for few months so they can tip away at it, to keep costs down.
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19-05-2020, 12:37   #2
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I don't have any recommendations but am interested in the topic, maybe the OP got recommendations by PM. Handing over a car to someone to be restored seems to me to be something that is going to need deep pockets, realistic expectations, very careful choice of restorer and an understanding that more rust will be found once stripping starts.

As with a lot of things, maybe there isn't a critical mass of potential customers here for there to be much of a market for restoration services. From looking at Car SOS it seems as though there are all manner of specialists in the UK for everything from reconditioning turbos to retrimming seats, also specialists who supply parts for a particular marque or model..

On costs, I recall reading on pistonheads about someone who spent 30 grand to get a Morris Marina restored when the car would never be worth more than a small fraction of that. Whereas an E type might cost twice that amount to restore but far more of the restoration cost would be clawed back if it was sold.

There a was a thread in the forum about the restoration of a 1970s Ford Consul, I think think the owner was paying someone to do most/all of the work. Might be worth looking for that thread.
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When it comes to classic car restorations, there are on or two, or more things that are a given.

1. The rust that you can see, is only a minute part of what is lurking beneath.
2. A small rust blister is a potential massive hole waiting to be dug out.
3. you cant repair a small bit of rust, all the rust has to be cut out.
4. Your initial thought that it only needs a small bit of work, is so far off the real issue as to be a meaningless statement.
5. Your restorer will not be able to give a 100% quote at the outset.
6. Work will escalate as the project moves forward.
7. As will restorers cost exponentially.
8 Your restored classic wont be worth a small percentage of what you invested.
9. You could end up selling more kidneys than you own to finish it.

10 And if after all this you want to sell it, you may end up giving it away.

But its all part of the joys of classic car ownership


And should you wimp out in the early stages, you will have given your wife/partner all the ammunition she needs for decades to come to remind you how useless you are at project managing your classic resto

Thats assuming of course she still talks to you.......or better still, if you listen
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That sounds like good advice. I guess it's very dependent though on the individual car. Some will need less work than others. Would anyone have recommendations of restorers in and around Dublin area?
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I'd suggest you contact the club (or better still, join) for the make of the car and seek advice there for trusted restorers experienced on your car.

Maybe contact your bank manager too
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Unfortunately there aren't many places that will take on classics for the reasons mentioned above.
They take too much time and are an unknown, difficult to price the job.

OP what's your budget for the restoration? What car is it, some are more prone to rust than others and would cost a lot more.
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What car are you planning on getting restored. There are a few restorers that specialise in particular makes, therefore less difficult to actually get them to take on your car.

Paying someone to restore your car is one thing, but finding someone willing to take on the job could be a task in itself.

Also rust is the biggest issue when restoring 90% of cars, its always much worse than you think.
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Any proper car resto, no matter how small , that needs respraying is at the very least going to run

near to double figures. Any low quotes point to the possibility of a bondo repair

instead of metal removal, and metal replacement.

Gone are the days of a 500 quid respray...............or they should be.

And pucks of underseal on any car is akin to loads of slap..........on a slapper
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I found the thread I referred to earlier. 1973 Ford Consul V4. If you follow the thread and view the photobucket pics it shows how a car that looks outwardly presentable can need an awful lot of work

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/show...php?p=64032631

Thread ends before the restoration was fully completed, anyone know what happened to car in the end, does it appear at classic car shows etc.
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.... happy to leave it with someone for few months so they can tip away at it, to keep costs down.
Can you explain that statement please particularly the bit where you expect 'tipping away at it' will be cheaper that not tipping away at it? An hourly charge is an hourly charge.

To give you an example of restoration costs, a friend of mine wanted 'some minor rust issues' and a respray on his Mercedes 320CE. He had a figure in mind (for a car that cost him €5000) for this work and the cheapest quote was €5500 and his highest was €8000. He was told at the time that it would potentially rise as work was carried out and it did.
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No decent bodyshop wants to (or needs to) do work on old cars..theyre getting stupid money from insurance companies for minor tips..so why should they bother....they need a wake up call...maybe this situation will help...I had a MK3 Cortins repaired and full respray (metallic bronze) done for £400 back in the 80's....i dont know how thay can charge 5-8k for a weeks work...maybe because some people are willing to pay it...
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Even at 50 quid an hour, you can see how the costs mount up.

Thats 2 k a week before any consumables.

You wont get cheap restorations, and why should you. You are paying for a particular skilset

and that costs money. You would not seek out a cheap brain surgeon if you needed one
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Some people have taken to shipping their cars to Poland for restoration. Might be an option since you're not in a rush.
Doctorclassic.eu and many others offer this service
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22-05-2020, 00:42   #14
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I have a car that I'd like to get restored. Would anyone have recommendations in and around the Dublin area?

The body is in fairly good condition. Main rust is around wheel arches. I've two new panels for front wheel arches so it's only rear that needs serious work.

Apart from the rear wheel arches it's just basically a full stripping down and respray that I need.

It's not something I have any time lines on so I'm happy to leave it with someone for few months so they can tip away at it, to keep costs down.
If you would travel as far as County Kildare for your restoration. I can recommend Mulhall Autobody as a possibility for your classic car restoration.

I have not had a classic car repaired by them, but I had some welding done on a rear sill of my everyday car for the n.c.t.

I was recommended to go to them by my mechanic. They have a good reputation in the area. I found them to be very friendly and I was very impressed with the welding job they did for me.

They have pictures on their website of a few classic car restorations that they have done.

https://mulhallautobody.com/our-works/

I do know that they are interested in the classic scene themselves.

I'm sure if you give them a call they will give you a rough idea of what kind of costs you might be expecting for the restoration.

Here is the link to their website,

https://mulhallautobody.com/

If you do a google search for Mulhall Autobody, they are on facebook as well. They may have more pictures of their work on facebook.

Good luck with the restoration.

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...I had a MK3 Cortins repaired and full respray (metallic bronze) done for £400 back in the 80's....
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