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17-04-2020, 22:48   #16
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My first brand new car was a phase 1 supervan, loved it, really comfortable, good on fuel and was quick enough. got up to lots in it... one abiding memory was pulling up in front of "Club Apres" at the Kilternan sport hotel, all the lads piling out of the back, and the bouncer cracking up, comparing it to a clown car, he had never seen so many bodies pour out.... wouldn't get away with it today....
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17-04-2020, 22:49   #17
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Just as a follow on to the geeky stuff about grilles and spec, does anyone notice a subtle difference between this TXE below and the TSE that I posted in the OP. Aside from the very obvious LHD, colour and rear spoiler

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I had several 19’s finishing with a 1994 R19 Baccara, hatchback 1.4 petrol I. Metallic black with full black leather interior. Sports seats in the front, a/c, 15 inch alloys, loved that car.

I saw one for sale in Cork last year, they came in hatch and saloon and were the last run of the 19’s as I recall as I went to a Megane in 1996.
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I had a 91 phase 1 16v back in about 95/96 - super car, but it drank juice like it was going outta fashion !
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18-04-2020, 08:46   #20
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Just as a follow on to the geeky stuff about grilles and spec, does anyone notice a subtle difference between this TXE below and the TSE that I posted in the OP. Aside from the very obvious LHD, colour and rear spoiler
No indicator repeaters?
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18-04-2020, 09:54   #21
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No indicator repeaters?
LOL you're right - I didn't even notice that. From googling, Indicator repeaters seem to be absent from some cars sold on the continent, possibly something to do with type approval/regulations.

There is another difference between the pics I posted - is blatantly obvious if you know to look for it but otherwise you just know something is "different" but can't put your finger on it.
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18-04-2020, 10:33   #22
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Suspension is lower?
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18-04-2020, 10:39   #23
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The stripe?
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18-04-2020, 13:58   #24
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Plastic covered sill
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The answer I was looking for was - the wheels are the same but different. 13 inch Zenith alloys on the TSE, 14 inch Zenith alloys on the TXE. Also wider tyres on the TXE.
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I'd never have noticed
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18-04-2020, 22:17   #27
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I'd never have noticed
Only something that a geek would notice!

The best non 16v 19s IMO were the TSE/TXEs and the late model phase 2s from 1995/1996 such as the Baccara that was mentioned in this thread. The late Irish Baccaras had a particular alloy wheel design that I haven't managed to find a pic of online. If anyone has any Irish brochures for any model year it would be cool see them posted here.
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My first car was a 1994 1.4 RSI saloon - in the same blue as below. I loved it



Ive always kept an eye out for them but they seem to be virtually extinct now. I imagine rust was a factor and the residuals were terrible so they were not that well minded.



Adriatic blue. I had it in a 95 Phase 2 5 door hatch. Loved it.
Before that I had a white P2 saloon.
And before that I had a 1990 phase 1 Supervan...and super it was. Rocket and would pull like the bejasus. Savage torque.

I'd love either a P1 or P2 now. Great thread.
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Only something that a geek would notice!

The best non 16v 19s IMO were the TSE/TXEs and the late model phase 2s from 1995/1996 such as the Baccara that was mentioned in this thread. The late Irish Baccaras had a particular alloy wheel design that I haven't managed to find a pic of online. If anyone has any Irish brochures for any model year it would be cool see them posted here.
Not these no?

https://www.adverts.ie/car/renault/1...dition/5178074
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They were very popular in Ireland, they were big enough to offer the same for a family as a Sierra or Vectra class. The spec was decent for the time like electric windows etc
80 bhp in the 1.4l was probably alright for the time too.
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