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30-10-2020, 11:06   #556
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in the description, it says the volume is actually 0.8m3, it's actually the pallet itself that measures 1m, so not quite as good value as it seems

Pallet Dimensions, 110 x 80 x 100cm. Pallet size 0.97 m. Volume of Firewood 0.80m
delivery is also 50 euro
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30-10-2020, 11:14   #557
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delivery is also 50 euro
Coming up free for me. Site states free delivery over €150
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Coming up free for me. Site states free delivery over €150
i asked my local co op to deliver and they said it is only free in the town and to go to the next village would be 50 euro so i left it and ended up going with this place

https://www.coughlanfuels.com/
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30-10-2020, 13:28   #559
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I've never seen the MJ being put on the labels for logs before - and sometimes it's very hard to find official figures on any websites unfortunately. It would be great if regulations mandated that though (unless I'm looking in the wrong place on the labels..).
It's on most manufactured logs, certainly if not on packaging then on spec sheets or website collateral.
Its not likely to be on packaged cut logs. If a log is beech, or birch, or Scots Pine, that generic information is widely available on Google.

E.g. https://www.ecologs.ie/shop/eco-logs/rocket-blaze-wood-briquettes

Low moisture content: ~8%
High heat output: 20 MJ/kg gross calorific value;
High density: 1,300 kg/m3

I am sure the other ecolog providers have email addresses if this information isn't apparent. But the data is available.

Re generic wood species' calorific value:-
http://www.woodenergy.ie/woodasafuel/listandvaluesofwoodfuelparameters-part2/

You're looking at between 10-20mj, from wet logs up to the best heat manufactured logs such as Rocket Blaze. 20MJ/KG Vs 17-18 and lower for the compressed logs such as Aldi and Lidl often have.
But there's more to extruded logs to just heat. They do not expand!! I've had my fire grate pushed over in an open fire by over-zealous filling of the firebox.

In many senses, the potential Mj /kg (calorific value) is irrelevant if your fire is not burning hot. I.e. very little smoke. It should be burning the smoke as well. Which is what a gasifier does. Or a second stage burn on many stoves. I achieve the same effect in an open fire through use of an intense firebox using storage heater bricks. But that's for another thread.

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in the description, it says the volume is actually 0.8m3, it's actually the pallet itself that measures 1m, so not quite as good value as it seems

Pallet Dimensions, 110 x 80 x 100cm. Pallet size 0.97 m. Volume of Firewood 0.80m
At least they are clear it is 0.8m3 of logs but still pretty daft to be even mentioning that the pallet is 1m, people are not buying it for the pallet size so thats irrelevant information.

Last winter the Co-op did a deal for 199 for 1m3 of ash/oak including delivery. Some people on here got it but then after about a week they pulled the free delivery part and it went up to something like 240. This year it is 0.8m3 also for 199 which again shows merchants selling 20% less logs for the same price as last winter.

These 0.8m3 crate sizes are problematic as well, I would doubt such a size would last most households who are only burning wood the entire winter. Many people would end up ordering a second crate again thus sucking up a second set of delivery costs, its not actually free after all.
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30-10-2020, 15:02   #561
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I achieve the same effect in an open fire through use of an intense firebox using storage heater bricks. But that's for another thread.
I'm curious about this, any chance of a photo?
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Sent an email to Flamers re Shimada logs. Got a reply re pricing only, no comment in reply to my question about the logs themselves.

I get the impression both Flamers and Ecologs are doing quite well.

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Could anyone who uses wood briquettes say if they have a smell? Thinking of getting an indoor log rack/holder. Keep 40 or 50 beside the fire and keep the trips out to the garage to a minimum. A smell of fresh cut wood would be nice, not so much if there's some sort of residual chemical smell from the manufacturing process.

Something like


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Could anyone who uses wood briquettes say if they have a smell? Thinking of getting an indoor log rack/holder. Keep 40 or 50 beside the fire and keep the trips out to the garage to a minimum. A smell of fresh cut wood would be nice, not so much if there's some sort of residual chemical smell from the manufacturing process.

Something like


Rocket Blaze have no smell that I can recall.

Flamers standard ecolog has a pine wood smell. It's fine.
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I achieve the same effect in an open fire through use of an intense firebox using storage heater bricks. But that's for another thread.

I'm curious about this, any chance of a photo?

This is indeed interesting, seeing as I also have an open fire and lots of storage heater bricks lying around.
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Sorry if a dumb question, but is kiln dried wood ok to use in an open fire?
You should only use dry timber in any fire. Kiln dried is the best as it has the least moisture
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Hello everybody. Long time lurker, first time poster here.

First off, thanks for providing links to bargains.

First one I bought - SureFirewood superjumbo bag (235 euro). Mixture of ash, oak, beech, alder, chestnut and some others I was unable to recognise. Average log's length - 20 to 22 cm. No photo (sorry), the remainder of the stuff can be seen in bottom right corner on photo #3.

The second one, purchased last week - Monahans kiln dried 2m crate of oak. 370 quid.



Average log's length - 25 cm, exactly as advertised.

Unloading in progress:



First row in a shed (note mix of SureFirewood logs on bottom right corner)



And second row in storage as well:

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Sent an email to Flamers re Shimada logs. Got a reply re pricing only, no comment in reply to my question about the logs themselves.

I get the impression both Flamers and Ecologs are doing quite well.
Do you mind me asking how much did they quote for a pallet (ton) of the Shimada and is delivery included?
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Do you mind me asking how much did they quote for a pallet (ton) of the Shimada and is delivery included?
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Do you mind me asking how much did they quote for a pallet (ton) of the Shimada and is delivery included?
Hi, I am wondering the same as they haven't replied as of yet. I did try the Blazers a couple of years ago and they did burn quicker than expected probably due to me just burning them alone, but I was super impressed. I stored them in my spare room, in the house.
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