Schools closed until February? (part 3)

Boggles · 02-12-2020 9:54am

Deleted User wrote: »

Who needed a mask in April? The only place most people went where there was other people was the supermarket

Health care workers.

Food production, manufacturing all other essential work and services where people came in contact.

Not everyone sat at home and drank cans and watched netflix.

[Deleted User] · 02-12-2020 12:27pm

Boggles wrote: »

Health care workers.

Food production, manufacturing all other essential work and services where people came in contact.

Not everyone sat at home and drank cans and watched netflix.

The numbers at work today is a multiple of those in the Spring. Where I work about 50% of employees continued to work onsite in the spring and 50% from home. Of the 50% on home work, nearly all are back onsite part time and about half back full time.

Interestingly from March to June there were 3 cases in employees who continued to work onsite with no mandatory masks, and from August to November there were 15 among the same group of employees. In none of the cases did contact tracing identify a case of transmission at work. This is an observation, not a commentary

Boggles · 02-12-2020 1:08pm

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Interestingly from March to June there were 3 cases in employees who continued to work onsite with no mandatory masks, and from August to November there were 15 among the same group of employees. In none of the cases did contact tracing identify a case of transmission at work. This is an observation, not a commentary

Schools?

[Deleted User] · 02-12-2020 1:18pm

Boggles wrote: »

Schools?

At least 3 were as a result of the Galway county hurling final

Boggles · 02-12-2020 1:21pm

Deleted User wrote: »

At least 3 were as a result of the Galway county hurling final

Yep, 30 people drinking out of the same large cup will do that.

frank8211 · 02-12-2020 3:33pm

Deleted User wrote: »

At least 3 were as a result of the Galway county hurling final

3???? Dozens more like it

[Deleted User] · 02-12-2020 4:15pm

frank8211 wrote: »

3???? Dozens more like it

At least 3 in my workplace

Stateofyou · 02-12-2020 5:09pm

So when will primary school students be wearing masks seeing as their classrooms are usually cramped, over-crowded and under ventilated, and they are not/don't keep 1m apart.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1202/1181901-covid-19-who/

"WHO advises that the general public should wear a non-medical mask in indoor (eg shops, shared workplaces, schools) or outdoor settings where physical distancing of at least one metre cannot be maintained," the new guidance says.

"If indoors, unless ventilation has been assessed to be adequate, WHO advises that the general public should wear a non-medical mask, regardless of whether physical distancing of at least one metre can be maintained."

Boggles · 02-12-2020 5:15pm

At this stage non medical masks should be fazed out for indoor cramped conditions and medical grade masks or at least filters in face coverings recommended.

But that's the WHO for you.

HerrKuehn · 02-12-2020 5:17pm

Boggles wrote: »

At this stage non medical masks should be fazed out for indoor cramped conditions and medical grade masks or at least filters in face coverings recommended.

But that's the WHO for you.

If only the WHO knew about this message board, they could learn so much.

Boggles · 02-12-2020 5:27pm

HerrKuehn wrote: »

If only the WHO knew about this message board, they could learn so much.

Or took a courtesy glance at the Asian Countries.

KerryConnor · 04-12-2020 4:32pm

Wondering at what point a school gets temporarily closed? My child's school now has 6 different classes quarantined since mid November. Most recent case was today. That is nearly half the school. Am considering keeping my child out til after Christmas holidays at this point.

SusanC10 · 04-12-2020 4:39pm

KerryConnor wrote: »

Wondering at what point a school gets temporarily closed? My child's school now has 6 different classes quarantined since mid November. Most recent case was today. That is nearly half the school. Am considering keeping my child out til after Christmas holidays at this point.

I don't know at what point they close a school or if it is down to the individual school or the HSE.
But if that were my child's school, I would be taking them out at this point.

History Queen · 04-12-2020 4:43pm

SusanC10 wrote: »

I don't know at what point they close a school or if it is down to the individual school or the HSE.
But if that were my child's school, I would be taking them out at this point.

Schools cannot make the decision to close.

wirelessdude01 · 04-12-2020 5:00pm

SusanC10 wrote: »

I don't know at what point they close a school or if it is down to the individual school or the HSE.
But if that were my child's school, I would be taking them out at this point.

Nothing whatsoever to do with the school. They have ZERO input into that decision making process.

mirrorwall14 · 04-12-2020 5:00pm

KerryConnor wrote: »

Wondering at what point a school gets temporarily closed? My child's school now has 6 different classes quarantined since mid November. Most recent case was today. That is nearly half the school. Am considering keeping my child out til after Christmas holidays at this point.

School has zero say. DES will tell them to reopen even if they try

wirelessdude01 · 04-12-2020 5:07pm

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

School has zero say. DES will tell them to reopen even if they try

As witnessed before Halloween with that school in Tarbert.

SusanC10 · 05-12-2020 10:09am

Is it the HSE or the DES then that made the decision to close any of the schools which did closev?

lulublue22 · 05-12-2020 10:12am

SusanC10 wrote: »

Is it the HSE or the DES then that made the decision to close any of the schools which did closev?

It’s the public health team who decide what happens in a school with a positive case from no close contacts to a number of close contacts to isolating a class to closing the school.

I presume DES signs off on the decision but it is public health teams who make the decision.

KerryConnor · 05-12-2020 10:53am

Some schools seem to getting closed temporarily by hse and I just wonder what cutoff point is. Boys school in ring send for example. Just think Covid is so hard to shift from a school once there are enough cases floating around. some kids coming back to school after staying home for 14 days due to positive cases in siblings/parents and then testing positive themselves (after testing negative originally) beyond the normal incubation time

wirelessdude01 · 05-12-2020 10:59am

SusanC10 wrote: »

Is it the HSE or the DES then that made the decision to close any of the schools which did closev?

Very much the public health team.

lulublue22 · 05-12-2020 11:25am

KerryConnor wrote: »

Some schools seem to getting closed temporarily by hse and I just wonder what cutoff point is. Boys school in ring send for example. Just think Covid is so hard to shift from a school once there are enough cases floating around. some kids coming back to school after staying home for 14 days due to positive cases in siblings/parents and then testing positive themselves (after testing negative originally) beyond the normal incubation time

I honestly don’t think anyone knows what the cut off point is. It is extremely difficult to find clear cut information. The definition of a close contact in a school setting changed in October. The new definition is as clear as mud - the bottom line is public health decides.
I did hear in relation to the school in Cork that cases only started coming to light when parents contacted their gp’s ( who subsequently sent children for testing ) as they were unhappy with the ph teams response. I do think that in that instance the ph teams hand was forced.
I hope that , that school closure will help focus the ph teams on identifying and preventing the issues which lead to widespread spread across the school community.

combat14 · 07-12-2020 8:37am

Healthcare workers, schoolchildren and students are among the groups who have had the highest number of Covid-19 infections, according to new data released to the Irish Independent.

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/health-staff-schoolchildren-and-students-are-worst-hit-by-covid-infection-39833650.html

khalessi · 07-12-2020 9:00am

combat14 wrote: »

Healthcare workers, schoolchildren and students are among the groups who have had the highest number of Covid-19 infections, according to new data released to the Irish Independent.

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/health-staff-schoolchildren-and-students-are-worst-hit-by-covid-infection-39833650.html

Coiour me surprised, said no one

wirelessdude01 · 07-12-2020 9:06am

combat14 wrote: »

Healthcare workers, schoolchildren and students are among the groups who have had the highest number of Covid-19 infections, according to new data released to the Irish Independent.

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/health-staff-schoolchildren-and-students-are-worst-hit-by-covid-infection-39833650.html

Fake news.

is_that_so · 07-12-2020 9:08am

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Fake news.

Paywalled news!

Boggles · 07-12-2020 9:12am

Colleges?

Lillyfae · 07-12-2020 9:29am

combat14 wrote: »

Healthcare workers, schoolchildren and students are among the groups who have had the highest number of Covid-19 infections, according to new data released to the Irish Independent.

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/health-staff-schoolchildren-and-students-are-worst-hit-by-covid-infection-39833650.html

It's not surprising at all- these should be pretty much the only three places where people are still congregating.

lawrencesummers · 07-12-2020 9:40am

combat14 wrote: »

Healthcare workers, schoolchildren and students are among the groups who have had the highest number of Covid-19 infections, according to new data released to the Irish Independent.

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/health-staff-schoolchildren-and-students-are-worst-hit-by-covid-infection-39833650.html

Is this the first admission that schools are a problem.

I don’t have a problem with it either, but it’s good to see that they are acknowledging that education settings are a driver of case numbers.

With schools open realistically case numbers are not going to go down to double digits.

I’m going to take my kids out of school a few days earlier so Grandparents are safer to call for Christmas. Maybe even get a test done.

khalessi · 07-12-2020 9:41am

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Is this the first admission that schools are a problem.

I don’t have a problem with it either, but it’s good to see that they are acknowledging that education settings are a driver of case numbers.

With schools open realistically case numbers are not going to go down to double digits.

I’m going to take my kids out of school a few days earlier so Grandparents are safer to call for Christmas. Maybe even get a test done.

Well Sam McConkey let a little slip last week on Claire Byrne show

Schools closed until February? (part 3)

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