BusConnects Dublin - Big changes to Bus Network

Really hard to see any basis in the article which supports a judicial review being taken here. They don't like the bus stop design for their road but that is not a defect in the planning process for the bus corridor, which appears to have been meticulous.

One would wonder if retaining 'footpath parking' is also a part of the issue. If the paths are wide enough to accept parking on the footpath, then I see no issue having adequate space for a bus stop.

If the stop is unsheltered, then that's appalling, it should be sheltered, no question.

In terms of bus spacing, currently between Mornington and Mayfield inbound, spacing is 220m to Danieli Rd, 370m to Killester Avenue, 340m to Mayfield.

The proposed spacing is 465m to the new stop at Kilmore Road and 465m to Mayfield Park, which is ideal in that location.

Having a bus stop right outside the cottages seems uncomfortable for residents and bus passengers. The cottages are quite exposed, windows/front doors are directly on to the path. Not the place for a bus stop. They should move it up or down the road.

At first I thought this was a ridiculous appeal. However it's utterly bizarre that they haven't utilised that huge amount of space opposite to include a bus shelter and expand the path on the cottage side of the road.

I though the whole idea of Bus Connections was to vastly improve the PT infrasturcture and increase patronage. People don't want to be standing at a windswept pole in the elements.

'Narrow footpath'... That's EXACTLY where a white Transit parks every day and blocks the whole footpath

I've already looked through about 12 other documents. The one you attached is 311 pages long. Care to be constructive and guide me where to look?

It's under the Architectural Heritage Assessment. Page 62

No significant changes are proposed to the alignment of the existing footpath in front of Artane Cottages Lower, however the inclusion of a cycle track under the Proposed Scheme will mean that the cottages will be set further back from the vehicular traffic using the Bus Lane and road carriageway than they are at present. The design of the Proposed Scheme has purposefully only included a bus stop pole and RTPI sign and avoided the placement of a bus shelter at this location, which will minimise impacts on the setting of Artane Cottages Lower.

Realistically that green space is one mature tree and several smaller ones. I doubt anyone is going to miss them while they wait for a bus, out of the rain, under a shelter.

I'm not overly concerned about the impact on less than 10 small cottages, but I don't think it sets a good precedent for other areas. The guidelines for bus locations are below. Arguably there is space for a bus shelter at this location, so I think it's unacceptable not to have one.

It looks from the planning drawing that some bit of a footpath is being retained along the road, on the road-side of the wall. If the only path was on the other side of the trees, you might sqeeze out enough space for a shelter on the other side of the road, i.e. the line of the wall at the existing footpath becomes the kerbline of the outbound bus lane, then everything shifts over.

I doubt there would be much objection to removing a couple of those years tbh, particularly if the plan was to landscape that area and provide new trees and planting.

No problem, trees can be relocated. New technology allows to relocate even the existing trees.

The current and proposed spacing is below. Around Dublin, on average, bus stop spacing is 300m on average. Recommended spacing is 400m on average, a bit less in city centre, a bit more further out.

So there's a need to realign the stops. Given the level of private driveways in the area, it's difficult to realign them in a better way, while also allowing for longer bus stop platforms which can accommodate 2 buses at the same time.

Current spacing from Mornington:

220m (Danieli), 370m (Killester Ave), 340m (Mayfield), 330m (Donnycarney Church)

Proposed spacing from Mornington:

465m (Kilmore proposed), 465m (Mayfield), 330m (Donnycarney Church)