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17-09-2019, 14:43   #1261
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Beheading might be a bit extreme!
Being cast into the wilderness, career wise, is a more likely (if no less inhumane) outcome!
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Any news on the EY consulting report into the so called Western Rail Corridor yet?
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Any news on the EY consulting report into the so called Western Rail Corridor yet?
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Any news on the EY consulting report into the so called Western Rail Corridor yet?
I'd imagine that a certain td will be trying to delay it until after the election.
His worst nightmare would be its launch in the middle of his campaign.
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I'd imagine that a certain td will be trying to delay it until after the election.
His worst nightmare would be its launch in the middle of his campaign.
Indeed, 'A certain TD' has thrown himself so fully into the Western Rail Corridor failing (even though the trains are hitting capacity between Ennis & Athenry most journeys), that sucess will be a fail for him.

Think about that, the failure of badly needed infrastructure, serves a politicians election campaign, but not actually the country!!!! Even the 'other TD' who longs to rip up the rail for a greenway between Tuam & Athenry drew the line on knocking the rail from Ennis to Athenry!!
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Indeed, 'A certain TD' has thrown himself so fully into the Western Rail Corridor failing (even though the trains are hitting capacity between Ennis & Athenry most journeys), that sucess will be a fail for him.

Think about that, the failure of badly needed infrastructure, serves a politicians election campaign, but not actually the country!!!! Even the 'other TD' who longs to rip up the rail for a greenway between Tuam & Athenry drew the line on knocking the rail from Ennis to Athenry!!
Trains are hitting capacity? Stick on a few extra carriages then. Ooops, forgot Irish Rail are practically bankrupt. Sure let's just give them more loss making lines to run instead
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Indeed, 'A certain TD' has thrown himself so fully into the Western Rail Corridor failing (even though the trains are hitting capacity between Ennis & Athenry most journeys), that sucess will be a fail for him./quote]

Trains are hitting capacity? Stick on a few extra carriages then. Ooops, forgot Irish Rail are practically bankrupt. Sure let's just give them more loss making lines to run instead.
We have many things in this country that don't make a profit but are good for us to have as a nation never the less. You know, things like schools, hospitals, roads, hell, even greenways don't actually make money....

We need mass transit. I don't know about where you're from but Galway is choked with traffic.... Anyways our government have no interest in Mass transit, the environment, or sustainable development. I dont' even know why they bother with a census because they still seem not be be able to plan for it's findings...
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Trains are hitting capacity? Stick on a few extra carriages then. Ooops, forgot Irish Rail are practically bankrupt. Sure let's just give them more loss making lines to run instead
almost every single line in the country is loss making.
irish rail does not operate on a commercial basis outside freight operations. it operates on government funding.
irish rail apparently being bankrupt is therefore irrelevant as is your point.
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28-10-2019, 21:40   #1270
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almost every single line in the country is loss making.
irish rail does not operate on a commercial basis outside freight operations. it operates on government funding.
irish rail apparently being bankrupt is therefore irrelevant as is your point.
But some are more equal than others, you might say.
The WRC is the third worst in terms of loss making, and the demographics north of tuam are even less promising.
As the rail review will doubt let us know, after the election.
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But some are more equal than others, you might say.
The WRC is the third worst in terms of loss making, and the demographics north of tuam are even less promising.
As the rail review will doubt let us know, after the election.
Even though the corridor from Ennis to August wasn't busy at first (it didn't help that it opened just as the economy was collapsing), it's very busy now. A huge number of students doing daily commutes to Gort & Athenry to school, and third level students, who can't get accommodation in the city are all commuting to Galway & Limerick now. I know this because a) I use the train, b) I asked the ticket inspectors about it who say it's growing year on year, and c) Iarnrod Eireann were on the trains this summer between Athenry & Ennis with their clickers/counters to see what the latest figures are.

Once the rail re-opening was announced, developers started building housing estates in Craughwell, now I hear there's planning for more housing in Ardrahan. I know folk who bought in Craughwell in fact, because the train runs through it.

I've no doubt but it'll take a few years after the rail re-opens to the North and you'll see more housing in Ballyglunin etc. because it'll be more attractive to families when their children can go to secondary on the train (Athenry or Tuam?). On the downside, Tuam won't be as affordable for housing, as it'll be a real option in the commuter belt for Galway city. An annual commuter ticket, is about 1/3 the price of a second car so we can see families re-examining how they use their budget...

Finally, Irish rail desperately needs more rolling stock. They've a significant shortage. It'll need it soon on the WRC. The Galway Limerick is still x2 but they're reaching capacity. Galway-Dublin train was four, but has climbed to five carriages in the last two years. It's not like they can order it and it'll be ready in a month in Irish gauge.
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The lack of rolling stock is certainly an issue, with DART services expecting to have new stock in two years, but it's not really an issue on the wrc. Other commuter lines don't have seats for everybody -- try getting on any of the early morning services from Leixlip to Connolly for instance.
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The lack of rolling stock is certainly an issue, with DART services expecting to have new stock in two years, but it's not really an issue on the wrc. Other commuter lines don't have seats for everybody -- try getting on any of the early morning services from Leixlip to Connolly for instance.
It will need extra rolling stock soon.. Seriously, I use that train at a lot of different times throughout the day & week. It's growing.
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It will need extra rolling stock soon.. Seriously, I use that train at a lot of different times throughout the day & week. It's growing.
Yes, it's growing, but the point isn't that this service is nearing capacity, it's that there's plenty of services already at or beyond capacity.

Add more carriages onto the Cork-Dublin, or Galway-Dublin services and they'd be full instantly, while adding more carriages onto the WRC would result in plenty of empty seats.
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almost every single line in the country is loss making.
irish rail does not operate on a commercial basis outside freight operations. it operates on government funding.
irish rail apparently being bankrupt is therefore irrelevant as is your point.
EU state aid rules apply to transport companies.The Irish government can invest what it likes in infrastructure but semi-states have to wash their face and compete on a level playing field with private companies.
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