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26-01-2019, 14:15   #16
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A tractor driver was banned for causing a tailback in Mayo.
that was a funny one. the garda giving evidence gave evidence with such an obvious hole in its logic that anyone present in court should hang their head in shame for not spotting it for the bull**** it was.
IIRC, he claimed the tailback was 7km long, and about 100 cars long.
he seemed to think that if he himself drove 7km in the process of overtaking 100 cars, it meant the tailback was itself 7km long. and his evidence to this effect was accepted.
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26-01-2019, 14:16   #17
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I think this cycle bus is a great idea in principle, but I also think the OP has a valid point here in terms of how it operates.

Not only do cyclists (children) fill the cycle lane, but other cyclists (adults) take up the 'regular' traffic lane in such a way as to hold up all the other traffic too, so that - as somebody says again - nobody in a motorised vehicle can drive any faster than the slowest child on a bike.

I don't know what the solution might be - maybe a derogation from the usual law, to allow children up to the age of 12 to cycle on the footpath?
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The kids should be walking to school: no need for vehicles to with any number of wheels to be used.

Just wait until some kid does a bunk from the cycle train - never makes it to school/home, gets into trouble
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that was a funny one.
Still, there's precedent for road users to get punished for holding up traffic.

If you've drivers slowed to 10km/h for 3km, you might get one hell of a tailback.

The lads running the cycle train need to be aware of that.
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what's the average speed of traffic at that time in galway anyway?
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26-01-2019, 14:29   #21
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The kids should be walking to school: no need for vehicles to with any number of wheels to be used.

Just wait until some kid does a bunk from the cycle train - never makes it to school/home, gets into trouble
so a kid cycling 3km (in a cycle train with adult supervision) is more likely to do a bunk than a kid walking 3km to school?
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what's the average speed of traffic at that time in galway anyway?
Given there was "one hundred" cars behind a tractor, I would say it's faster than a tractor.
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Given there was "one hundred" cars behind a tractor, I would say it's faster than a tractor.
sorry, i meant rush hour in galway city, in the context of the kids getting to school.
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I think it's more the fact that they're spread across both road and cycle lane, moving as fast as the slowest child, while there's a tailback of traffic that can't pass.
In Galway congestion, traffic moves at the speed of the slowest vehicle, which is often stopped.
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"Cycle buses are great but they shouldn't be on the road".
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You need to be considerate of other road users.
So have respect and patience for the kids on the bikes ffs. All that's going to happen to you when you get by is that you're going to be stopped at the back of the next queue of traffic for that bit longer, especially in that hell hole for traffic that is Galway.
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Just an fyi for some, the use of cycle lanes is not mandatory
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So have respect and patience for the kids on the bikes ffs. All that's going to happen to you when you get by is that you're going to be stopped at the back of the next queue of traffic for that bit longer, especially in that hell hole for traffic that is Galway.
Yes, but they also need to have respect.

It goes both ways.
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If it gets cars off the road it's a great idea.
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Just an fyi for some, the use of cycle lanes is not mandatory

I for one know it's not mandatory.

But leaving at least 1.5 metres of space when passing a cyclist is not mandatory either, even though most people do, just as cyclists ask us to do.

Or if you're driving towards a junction where you intend to turn left or right, it's not actually mandatory to use your indicator, again even though the vast majority of people do it.

Or if you're driving a slow vehicle like a tractor, it's not mandatory to pull in when you get a chance to let other vehicles go past, even though many tractor drivers regularly do that.

None of those things are mandatory. But doing them shows a little courtesy for other road users and eases their journey a bit in a way that doesn't hugely materially affect your own.

Using a cycle lane falls into that same category.

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