The Last Of Us 2

Zero-Cool · 20-02-2021 1:36pm

Am i the only one that liked the story? It was a progression on from the first game and how the lie made Joel a shell of a man and just as Ellie was ready to forgive, he gets taken away leaving her in an emotional heap only to realise how wrong get actions were at the end when it was too late to go back on a lot of things she did. The farm should have been the end for Ellie (and a lot of people playing) but she still had to see it through. Was only when she was in the verge of setting out what she had to do, she realised she didn't all along.

Yeah it was bleak as **** but a great arc for these characters in this horrible world. Want fond memories? remember the museum level.

Also, Star Wars is a load of shyte.

dohboy · 20-02-2021 3:16pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Am i the only one that liked the story?

I thought it was great. I find the pushback completely bizarre, and I suspect it has a lot to do with lads having their hero complex crushed. They liked the idea of playing mostly as Joel and chaperoning a young wan around.

Penn · 20-02-2021 3:31pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Am i the only one that liked the story? It was a progression on from the first game and how the lie made Joel a shell of a man and just as Ellie was ready to forgive, he gets taken away leaving her in an emotional heap only to realise how wrong get actions were at the end when it was too late to go back on a lot of things she did. The farm should have been the end for Ellie (and a lot of people playing) but she still had to see it through. Was only when she was in the verge of setting out what she had to do, she realised she didn't all along.

Yeah it was bleak as **** but a great arc for these characters in this horrible world. Want fond memories? remember the museum level.

Also, Star Wars is a load of shyte.

I enjoyed the story a lot. Too much padding in places to suit the gameplay at the expense of the story, and some plot points or character moments presented with all the finesse of a kango drill covered in barbed wire, but for the most part I thought it was great. They didn't rest on the laurels of the first game, instead trying to present a new story in a new way. I loved the Part B of the story more than I would have imagined. For me the biggest issue I had was the wasting of Jeffrey Wright as Isaac, which should have been a bigger part of Abby's story.

Also I agree with JU that The Last Jedi is the best Star Wars film. Fight me.

Retr0gamer · 21-02-2021 1:14am

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Am i the only one that liked the story? It was a progression on from the first game and how the lie made Joel a shell of a man and just as Ellie was ready to forgive, he gets taken away leaving her in an emotional heap only to realise how wrong get actions were at the end when it was too late to go back on a lot of things she did. The farm should have been the end for Ellie (and a lot of people playing) but she still had to see it through. Was only when she was in the verge of setting out what she had to do, she realised she didn't all along.

Yeah it was bleak as **** but a great arc for these characters in this horrible world. Want fond memories? remember the museum level.

Also, Star Wars is a load of shyte.

My main issue is all of that above is totally redundant. Everything there is true but everything there was told in TLOU2 over 30 hours.

TLOU1 said all of that in one lie and one facial expression from Ellie at the end of the game. It was subtle but powerful. It didn't need to be spelled out exactly what was going to happen next. It was unneeded and it added nothing. In fact it ended up cheapening that ending. The TLOU1 ending told you that the relationship between Ellie and Joel was doomed.

In the end you had Ellie and Abby with very basic character arcs that were dull, hackneyed, unoriginal and boring.

Think it would have been better not to touch Joel and Ellie and go for a different story in the same universe with new characters.

Penn · 21-02-2021 4:05pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Think it would have been better not to touch Joel and Ellie and go for a different story in the same universe with new characters.

I think that's the way they'll have to go for a third game if they were to make one. I wouldn't even have Abby and Lev in it either. Wipe the slate clean and go with all new characters. The world they created is ripe for different stories and situations.

gimli2112 · 21-02-2021 8:31pm

saw a thing an youtube earlier "warzone is awful prove me wrong" I had an eleven page essay proving this fool wrong and then I thought its an opinion however misguided and I didn't sleep much last night so can't invest into an online cod argument and fell asleep

Zero-Cool · 21-02-2021 9:19pm

gimli2112 wrote: »

saw a thing an youtube earlier "warzone is awful prove me wrong" I had an eleven page essay proving this fool wrong and then I thought its an opinion however misguided and I didn't sleep much last night so can't invest into an online cod argument and fell asleep

I wouldn't mind having a read of that

expen12 · 02-03-2021 10:13pm

I just finished the game about an hour ago. There's a lot to sit with but I personally found it incredible. Not flawless, but incredible.

Royale with Cheese · 08-03-2021 3:33pm

I finished it over the weekend, had only played the first one just before Christmas as I've only recently picked up a Playstation again after not owning one since the PS2.

I thought it was pretty good, however I knew that both

Joel would die, killed by somebody called Abby and that Abby and Ellie were the playable characters in the game. I was googling something about the first game when I played it a few months back and underneath the answers were a few commonly asked related questions, one of them was why does Abby kill Joel in TLOU2. Thanks Google. The only thing that was a surprise was just how soon into the game Joel dies.

It was probably a little too long for me, I found the game loop starting to get repetitive by the end. You clear out one area of human enemies just to progress straight onto another with 8 more people to take down. I played it completely stealthy for the most part but towards the very end went a bit gung ho as I just fancied some action and shaking things up a bit.

I was completely unaware of the "controversy" around the game's launch, I knew it had been review bombed but just assumed that was from a load of Xbox fanboys or something like that. When I got to the

transgender character I did roll my eyes a little bit, it just felt very like a box they wanted to tick and you know they decided to put a transgender character in the game and then write the story around that decision. That said it fit perfectly into why Lev would be an outcast from that weird cult so I've no actual issues with it, they made it work pretty well.

Overall pretty decent, not flawless, I might have preferred the first due to it being a bit more concise and having probably the stronger story (this was basically just a revenge plot after all). If they decide to make another I think they'll have to revamp the gameplay considerably. I'm not saying it was bad (far from it) but quite similar to the first and does start to feel a bit samey after 25+ hours.

SomeSayKos · 08-03-2021 4:14pm

Deleted User wrote: »

No, not this. Everyone in that world is living a violent life, looking after their own. Joel and Ellie were no different.

Ellie and the fireflies were different though would you not agree? Both were trying to fight for something greater than themselves.

On the flip side Joel was willing to do whatever it took to make himself happy, whether it was killing the fireflies to stop them killing Ellie for a cure, or lie to Ellie at the end of the game. I get why he did those things but they're pretty messed up.

I like him as a character, don't get me wrong but Joel totally got what he deserved.

mutley18 · 10-03-2021 3:31pm

Still no word on a PS5 patch? I hope they arent just gonna release it as TLOU 2 Remastered for more money...

ERG89 · 10-03-2021 3:56pm

mutley18 wrote: »

Still no word on a PS5 patch? I hope they arent just gonna release it as TLOU 2 Remastered for more money...

Probably won't happen until they release the new Factions/Multiplayer mode.

https://twitter.com/pushsquare/status/1369348516821299202?s=19

Zero-Cool · 10-03-2021 6:19pm

Some rumours making the rounds today that a ps4/ps5 version will be announced soon that includes multiplayer, a battle royale mode and a new single player dlc that is Abby centric.

Neil also having his fun.

https://twitter.com/Neil_Druckmann/status/1369673573514711042?s=19

ItsHoggie · 11-03-2021 1:31pm

A battle royale mode would actually be class for this.

Zero-Cool · 11-03-2021 2:12pm

ItsHoggie wrote: »

A battle royale mode would actually be class for this.

The multiplayer in TLOU 1 is so good, I think a Battle Royale mode would be class, hopefully that is true but probably a load of bollox.

ItsHoggie · 11-03-2021 3:27pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

The multiplayer in TLOU 1 is so good, I think a Battle Royale mode would be class, hopefully that is true but probably a load of bollox.

Yeah, was a big fan of factions in the last game. Was never really sure how a stealth game could work with online mp but thought they pulled it off brilliantly.

I’d say there’s truth in the rumours alright, I’ve been reading about a possible battle royale mode for Last of Us 2 since before the game came out. So fingers crossed.

gimli2112 · 11-03-2021 3:46pm

after the success of Fortnite they'll try and lever in BR's into everything. tbh BR's never interested me. Admittedly I could see the BF5 one and Apex had some good features but it wasn't until WZ I became obsessed. Typical COD rob someone else's idea and try improve on it. If it works cool if not there's always next year.

Warzone has arguably been a bigger success than the last two CODs

SomeSayKos · 11-03-2021 3:48pm

gimli2112 wrote: »

Typical COD rob someone else's idea and try improve on it. If it works cool if not there's always next year.

Warzone has arguably been a bigger success than the last two CODs

Warzone was the first BR game I enjoyed, but having said that I stopped playing after a couple of weeks. I had a good time though

Retr0gamer · 11-03-2021 4:13pm

I much prefer PUBG. Warzone is BR for people that make a beeline for the high player density spots in PUBG. I prefer the tension of jumping into a low density area and creeping about. But can't play PUBG anymore because the player base level is so far above me now that it's not much fun.

The Raging Bile Duct · 11-03-2021 4:16pm

I tried PUBG but I thought it looked like dried snot. Couldn't get into it at all.

SomeSayKos · 11-03-2021 4:21pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I much prefer PUBG. Warzone is BR for people that make a beeline for the high player density spots in PUBG. I prefer the tension of jumping into a low density area and creeping about. But can't play PUBG anymore because the player base level is so far above me now that it's not much fun.

I'm definitely a creeper when I play warzone. Creepin' all over the shop

Retr0gamer · 11-03-2021 4:35pm

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

I tried PUBG but I thought it looked like dried snot. Couldn't get into it at all.

Different sort of game. PUBG has much better gun and ballistic modelling so it's much harder to hit your target. COD on that other hand has the same ridiculous hitscan shooting model that they have been using for years but why change it when it's so fun. Warzone is way more immediately satisfying than PUBG, a lot of people were complaining about how there can be long stretches where you won't see someone in PUBG but for me that tension was what I was all about.

I'll just leave by saying an irrefutable truth: Fortnite is poo.

johnny_ultimate · 11-03-2021 4:38pm

Out of the battle royales I’ve played (and I haven’t played Warzone, mostly out of disgust at its install and updated sizes) I liked Apex Legends the most. Had that Respawn flow, even if it’s not quite as perfect as Titanfall. But I’m not someone who sticks with games for months on end, so I naturally just fall out of online games after a week or two. It’s always nice to get in early though before it all gets taken over by high level players.

Zero-Cool · 28-04-2021 10:01pm

Neil said that him and Hailey have an outline written out for The Last of Us 3 and hopes that it will turn into something one day but still deciding on what to work on next.

I know a lot of people didn't want 2 and sure as **** wouldn't want 3 but I'd like to see what they do with it and lessons learned from 2.

https://bloody-disgusting.com/video-games/3662448/naughty-dog-the-last-of-us-part-iii-has-an-outline-but-so-far-thats-all/

J Mysterio · 28-04-2021 10:12pm

Yes please, I'm all for it.

Jordan 199 · 28-04-2021 10:44pm

Clickers - a great bunch of lads and ladies.

johnny_ultimate · 28-04-2021 10:47pm

You play as Daxter, the daughter of Whitney. Your mother was brutally murdered doing what she loved: playing her PS Vita. Now, you want to hunt down the woman responsible and exact your violent, deeply unsatisfying revenge.

OptimusTractor · 28-04-2021 11:25pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Neil said that him and Hailey have an outline written out for The Last of Us 3 and hopes that it will turn into something one day but still deciding on what to work on next.

I know a lot of people didn't want 2 and sure as **** wouldn't want 3 but I'd like to see what they do with it and lessons learned from 2.

https://bloody-disgusting.com/video-games/3662448/naughty-dog-the-last-of-us-part-iii-has-an-outline-but-so-far-thats-all/

I stopped playing 2 after the part where you pick up a bow. Something about the game just never clicked with me. To be honest I never wanted a sequel. i would rather they put this on ice for a couple of years.

Leroy42 · 28-04-2021 11:40pm

I think a good area for them to explore is the gap between outbreak and start of TLOU1.

It was obviously carnage, society falling apart and the infected running riot.

They could do a multi story style where characters crossed paths but never join up. But decisions on whether to kill or help characters you've already played as come up.

Maybe you end up on the end of a Joel beating, or his brother.

They seem very interested in examination of players moral choices, well fight to survive is pretty core of that.

gimli2112 · 29-04-2021 4:05am

Hopefully it will start of like a bad 1980's soap opera. Joel will step out of the shower and you realise Episode 2 was all just a dream that never really happened.

The Last Of Us 2

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