Off Topic Chat. (MOD NOTE post# 3949 and post#5279)

Mellor · 13-05-2021 2:19pm

BattleCorp wrote: »

I could be naive but why would the UK give a fiddlers about an EU directive?

According to that screenshot, it’s a UK Law.
Nothing to do with the EU.

tudderone · 13-05-2021 2:58pm

Mellor wrote: »

According to that screenshot, it’s a UK Law.
Nothing to do with the EU.

The first thing he says it is from an eu directive.

BattleCorp · 13-05-2021 3:11pm

tudderone wrote: »

The first thing he says it is from an eu directive.

I think the UK are somewhat copying this EU Directive. Directive (EU) 2017/853 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 17 May 2017.

We put it into operation through this S.I. http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2019/si/420/made/en/print

Grizzly 45 · 13-05-2021 10:26pm

Yup ,just the UK copying the EU directive...Why? They still have to comply with EU legislation if they want to sell into the UK ASFIK UK made firearms.

tudderone · 13-05-2021 10:43pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Yup ,just the UK copying the EU directive...Why? They still have to comply with EU legislation if they want to sell into the UK ASFIK UK made firearms.

There isn't really any bulk manufacturers of firearms in the UK anymore though, thats the thing. BSA, Parker Hale, Sterling etc etc are all gone. Maybe the likes of Accuracy international, or BSA airguns, but the Turks, Germans and Italians have the mass market covered. Odd.

Grizzly 45 · 13-05-2021 10:46pm

Purdey,H&H,Rigby,etc...The bespoke brands have to come with the same approved standards to be EU sellable too.

BattleCorp · 14-05-2021 10:39am

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Yup ,just the UK copying the EU directive...Why? They still have to comply with EU legislation if they want to sell into the UK ASFIK UK made firearms.

The UK manufacturer's don't need legislation for this. They could have started marking the pressure bearing parts themselves without the need for UK legislation requiring them to do so.

tudderone · 14-05-2021 12:19pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Purdey,H&H,Rigby,etc...The bespoke brands have to come with the same approved standards to be EU sellable too.

Numbers stamped all over your Purdey ! How frightfully working class !

Grizzly 45 · 14-05-2021 12:43pm

Oh do have a look under your great grandpaters H&H breach and lock next time ol chap! Full of the dashed things from proving it from BP to nitro and what not.So I suppose another one or two to keep the Huns and Frogs happy across the channel wont make much of a difference when we sell them some proper British firearms, what?;)

Grizzly 45 · 14-05-2021 12:48pm

BattleCorp wrote: »

The UK manufacturer's don't need legislation for this. They could have started marking the pressure bearing parts themselves without the need for UK legislation requiring them to do so.

they do ASFIK.This is just to be able to sell them in the EU so they are traceable,and its not every part either just pressure bearing.

Looking at you too Irish gunsmiths. You build it,you gotta mark it now as well here under this legislation, otherwise, you cant legally sell it in the EU .

tudderone · 14-05-2021 1:54pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Oh do have a look under your great grandpaters H&H breach and lock next time ol chap! Full of the dashed things from proving it from BP to nitro and what not.So I suppose another one or two to keep the Huns and Frogs happy across the channel wont make much of a difference when we sell them some proper British firearms, what?;)

I have a Dublin made sidelock and it has diddly-squat in terms of proof marks, just the makers name on the rib and a serial number on the trigger guard

Mellor · 14-05-2021 2:27pm

tudderone wrote: »

The first thing he says it is from an eu directive.

He’s pointing out the fact it’s similar to the EU directive.
But it’s in no way a result of the EU directive. It’s a home office circular. It is entirely an independent UK action.

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

they do ASFIK.This is just to be able to sell them in the EU so they are traceable,and its not every part either just pressure bearing.

His point was that UK manufacturers could have voluntarily met EU requirements with any firearms they they wanted to sell in the EU. As currently happens in many many industries. The additional UK law wasn’t required for that reason as far as I can see.

Grizzly 45 · 14-05-2021 4:37pm

tudderone wrote: »

I have a Dublin made sidelock and it has diddly-squat in terms of proof marks, just the makers name on the rib and a serial number on the trigger guard

Made by whom and when if known?

Feisar · 15-05-2021 6:13pm

The rifle in question is on it's way to France to sit in a vacuum along with the Kilogram, I'm afraid to look at it in case I mess it up.

(Yes I'm aware it's only three shots but I wanted a good first day back out!)

Grizzly 45 · 18-05-2021 12:13pm

Found this French site.For all things hunting & fishing for sale. iSome well interesting bits over there.

https://www.naturabuy.fr/

tudderone · 18-05-2021 1:27pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Found this French site.For all things hunting & fishing for sale. iSome well interesting bits over there.

https://www.naturabuy.fr/

Is that an auction website ?

tudderone · 18-05-2021 2:06pm

Interesting video,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjkjfOhNSx0

otmmyboy2 · 18-05-2021 2:23pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Found this French site.For all things hunting & fishing for sale. iSome well interesting bits over there.

https://www.naturabuy.fr/

Ah naturabuy, aka French bubba's heaven :P

This was, at one point, a MAS-36:
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tudderone · 18-05-2021 3:15pm

otmmyboy2 wrote: »

Ah naturabuy, aka French bubba's heaven :P

This was, at one point, a MAS-36:

Anyone shooting French rifles here i wonder ? Ammo could be an issue.

otmmyboy2 · 18-05-2021 3:18pm

tudderone wrote: »

Anyone shooting French rifles here i wonder ? Ammo could be an issue.

I've seen one or two MAS-36s over the years here, but never inquired as to their ammo source.

But yeah, 7.5 french is going to be about as rare here as 300blk.

Mind you PPU does still produce it so I'd say a friendly RFD could bring some in if there was the demand.

tudderone · 18-05-2021 3:20pm

otmmyboy2 wrote: »

I've seen one or two MAS-36s over the years here, but never inquired as to their ammo source.

But yeah, 7.5 french is going to be about as rare here as 300blk.

Mind you PPU does still produce it so I'd say a friendly RFD could bring some in if there was the demand.

Bit like the Swiss K11/K31's, lovely rifles, but if i ask in dealers about them, i get a blank stare, ditto 7.5 swiss ammo.

Grizzly 45 · 18-05-2021 11:25pm

tudderone wrote: »

Anyone shooting French rifles here i wonder ? Ammo could be an issue.

Told ya it was an interesting site!! Did anyone check out the converted to straight pull bolt action PPSH Russian SMG?:eek:

tudderone · 19-05-2021 12:22am

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Told ya it was an interesting site!! Did anyone check out the converted to straight pull bolt action PPSH Russian SMG?:eek:

Oh the fun you could have trying to licence that

. OOOH, just seen German fg-42's in straight pull too. Get thee behind me satan !

https://www.naturabuy.fr/Pre-commande-FG-42-modele-G-Type-2-repetition-manuelle-categorie-C-item-7684511.html

Grizzly 45 · 19-05-2021 12:37pm

tudderone wrote: »

Oh the fun you could have trying to licence that . OOOH, just seen German fg-42's in straight pull too. Get thee behind me satan !

https://www.naturabuy.fr/Pre-commande-FG-42-modele-G-Type-2-repetition-manuelle-categorie-C-item-7684511.html

Sport System Dittrich....When you find HK products too cheap& nasty.:p

http://www.ssd-weapon.de/produkte.html

Grizzly 45 · 19-05-2021 9:25pm

The UK bungles the Offensive weapons bill,on both cost,compensation and in preventing crime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLDEcf0OR-k

yubabill · 24-05-2021 10:16am

I'm not paranoid, folks - it's just that they're all out to get me.

This guy tells how Tech has gone beyond Google Maps recording your wifi router from their streetcar, they can even use your devices to locate other people now.

Will drive you crazy if you let it, so beware in advance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itwkjuWT89A

Rows Grower · 24-05-2021 12:19pm

Very sad news of a BLM activist after been shot in the head in London, hope she recovers.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-57223755

otmmyboy2 · 24-05-2021 12:36pm

Rows Grower wrote: »

Very sad news of a BLM activist after been shot in the head in London, hope she recovers.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-57223755

Indeed.
Shame the narrative among UK politicians has gone straight to restricting firearms more, but that's par for the course I suppose.

Regardless of the activist's racist leanings I hope she recovers and the scrote who did it is caught.

tudderone · 24-05-2021 12:46pm

Brandon Lee all over again :eek: Woman gets shot in the forehead as a prank in Russia and ends up in hospital.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9612093/Man-shoots-woman-HEAD-leaving-horrific-wound-prank-gone-wrong-Russia.html

Edit, i should have made it clear its with a blank firing pistol.

Uinseann_16 · 24-05-2021 12:59pm

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/texas-senate-has-passed-hb-957-exempting-texas-made-suppressors-made-from-nfa-regulation/
This allows suppressors made in Texas to be except from the NFA act so no silly 200$ tax stamps

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