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New Dublin Bus Route to feed Luas @ Broombridge

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    #152
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i think someone decided not to wait for the bus:

    https://twitter.com/OldManRodgers/status/1065174433915125760


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    #153
    MJohnston
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Seen people walking up that way too. Idiots.


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    #154
    Kevtherev1
    Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭Kevtherev1


    New route 40E between Tyrrelstown to Broombridge Luas to commence December 2nd 2018. A link to the timetable and route map is here.

    40e%20map%20web.pdf


    https://www.dublinbus.ie/Global/40e%20map%20web.pdf


    https://www.dublinbus.ie/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/40d1/


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    #155
    madnessnmayhem
    Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭madnessnmayhem


    Kevtherev1 wrote: »
    New route 40E between Tyrrelstown to Broombridge Luas to commence December 2nd 2018. A link to the timetable and route map is here.

    40e%20map%20web.pdf


    https://www.dublinbus.ie/Global/40e%20map%20web.pdf


    https://www.dublinbus.ie/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/40d1/
    Ur bit behind link put up on previous page lol 😋


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    #156
    Daith
    Registered Users Posts: 4,933 ✭✭✭Daith


    It seems like such a long route. 30 mins from Finglas and I'm barely at Dorest St sometimes.


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    #157
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Why are they using the numbering 40e why not just another number that's not already in use rather than having a messy looking alpha suffix.


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    #158
    Technocentral
    Registered Users Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    No comments on this? All the people advocating it obviously arent using it.


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    #159
    Lord Glentoran
    Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Lord Glentoran


    Technocentral wrote: »
    No comments on this? All the people advocating it obviously arent using it.

    More likely those using it aren’t on boards.


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    #160
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Technocentral wrote: »
    No comments on this? All the people advocating it obviously arent using it.

    I've heard it's been doing fairly well so far I live on the Southside so I can't really comment though.


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    #161
    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Technocentral wrote: »
    No comments on this? All the people advocating it obviously arent using it.

    I've used it but in order to get into the city in the evening for socialising and home again, and it's great. Less than an hour from getting the bus to when I jumped off at Charlemont, and same getting home.

    I still have a 20 minute or so walk to and from the bus stop but beats a bus to Blanchardstown village and a €20/30 taxi ride home from there.

    I'm not a commuter so can't comment from that point of view, but a few got on in the evening going by the business parks and onto the Luas. And had someone get on in Cabra, the second last stop, and get off at the Luas, a lady with a bus pass which I'm sure some will be delighted to hear.

    If anything the last bus from Cabra could do with coinciding with a later Luas, currently it's 11:30 so you have to be leaving the city just before 11 to meet it.


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    #162
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Hurrache wrote: »
    If anything the last bus from Cabra could do with coinciding with a later Luas, currently it's 11:30 so you have to be leaving the city just before 11 to meet it.

    That would require a union agreement to allow one particular bus route run later at night than others. I'd say the unions will allow 24h bus routes if the over time is good enough and no drivers are forced into doing it which I don't think as I'm sure some will agree to work aswell as new recruits.

    As for the route 40e I think it may have been better if it was included in the tender to Go-Ahead and they could left one of the routes with DB with an increased frequency perhaps the likes of the 102 or the 33a.

    If it went to Go-Ahead they could probably run it later at night than with DB in order to meet the last Luas and they could probably run it more frequently too using single deckers instead of double deckers. I believe the 102 is struggling capacity wise with the single deckers and it would make more sense for them on the 40e as they could run them more frequently as the single deckers would save fuel on the double deckers could run them every 20 mins during the week and every 30 at weekends.


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    #163
    L1011
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    I'm nearly certain that the union agreement and rates for overnight (beyond nitelink) already exist and have done so for some time?


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    #164
    GK125
    Registered Users Posts: 19 ✭GK125


    Does anybody know if Dublin bus still employ bus cleaners just in extremely interested in this line of work and would like to work my way up any advice on how to get into it would be greatly appreciated


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    #165
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    GK125 wrote: »
    Does anybody know if Dublin bus still employ bus cleaners just in extremely interested in this line of work and would like to work my way up any advice on how to get into it would be greatly appreciated

    This dosen't really have much to do with thread.


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    #166
    L1011
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    I would be very surprised if its not outsourced to either OCS or Noonan.


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    #167
    John Sacrimoni
    Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭John Sacrimoni


    Seen it heading down Cardiffsbridge road at around 4pm today. No more than 5 people on it.


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    #168
    Dravokivich
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    L1011 wrote: »
    I'm nearly certain that the union agreement and rates for overnight (beyond nitelink) already exist and have done so for some time?

    Alek regularly states that in an effort to quell the fear mongering. I think GM has mentioned something about it too.


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    #169
    PhoenixParker
    Registered Users Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    John Sacrimoni wrote: »
    Seen it heading down Cardiffsbridge road at around 4pm today. No more than 5 people on it.

    5 people at 4pm on a Saturday for a service thats only been operating a week and wasn't widely flagged as starting in advance (the actual start date was confirmed less tgen 2 weeks out) is pretty damn good.


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    #170
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    John Sacrimoni wrote: »
    Seen it heading down Cardiffsbridge road at around 4pm today. No more than 5 people on it.

    To be fair it's not the only bus route in Dublin that's like that on a Sunday. Certain routes just aren't going to carry the same capacity as others however that dosen't mean they aren't useful to some people. As I already suggested this route may be better off if it used single decker buses.


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    #171
    John Sacrimoni
    Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭John Sacrimoni


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    To be fair it's not the only bus route in Dublin that's like that on a Sunday. Certain routes just aren't going to carry the same capacity as others however that dosen't mean they aren't useful to some people. As I already suggested this route may be better off if it used single decker buses.

    It was a saturday but i understand your point, one of the old imps would be perfect for the route.


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    #172
    Lord Glentoran
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    This dosen't really have much to do with thread.

    We’ve had threads about rail proposals to Letterkenny clogged with nonsense about self driving electric cars being acceptable to the Mods, can’t see how this query does any harm.


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    #173
    KD345
    Registered Users Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭KD345


    The new route is doing ok, but there seems to be an issue with installing bus stops. There are no stops on the section only served by the 40e. This is between the Ballycoolin Road junction and Hollystown. The route passes many industrial parks but there at no stops at all. There are a lot of homes being built in Hollywoodrath but there’s only one stop in Hollystown, the existing 40d stop, which involves a lengthy walk for residents along a road with no footpath in places.

    There are ads for the Go-Ahead routes on bus shelters across north Dublin but there seems to be none for the 40e which is strange considering it’s actually a brand new route. When you compare it to the fanfare of the 175, which was also a new service, the 40e seems to be forgotten about.

    For a route with lots of missing bus stops and no advertising it’s doing ok. I have observed drivers assisting passengers and answering questions and I’m sure word of mouth will help.


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    #174
    devnull
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    KD345 wrote: »
    The new route is doing ok, but there seems to be an issue with installing bus stops. There are no stops on the section only served by the 40e. This is between the Ballycoolin Road junction and Hollystown. The route passes many industrial parks but there at no stops at all. There are a lot of homes being built in Hollywoodrath but there’s only one stop in Hollystown, the existing 40d stop, which involves a lengthy walk for residents along a road with no footpath in places.

    There are some issues with the 40E in relation to planning permission to get the bus stops put in and a proposal by Fingal County Council to close the R121 that it runs along altogether


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    #175
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    KD345 wrote: »
    The new route is doing ok, but there seems to be an issue with installing bus stops. There are no stops on the section only served by the 40e. This is between the Ballycoolin Road junction and Hollystown. The route passes many industrial parks but there at no stops at all. There are a lot of homes being built in Hollywoodrath but there’s only one stop in Hollystown, the existing 40d stop, which involves a lengthy walk for residents along a road with no footpath in places.

    There are ads for the Go-Ahead routes on bus shelters across north Dublin but there seems to be none for the 40e which is strange considering it’s actually a brand new route. When you compare it to the fanfare of the 175, which was also a new service, the 40e seems to be forgotten about.

    For a route with lots of missing bus stops and no advertising it’s doing ok. I have observed drivers assisting passengers and answering questions and I’m sure word of mouth will help.

    I didn't realise they hadn't actually put up the stops yet that seems quite poor on the NTAs part. I wonder is the reason that they couldn't agree whether to put the new NTA style bus stops or the DB style ones either way very poor. Also the stops outside the Luas stop from the pictures I've seen are NTA style but the stop head where the operators name, routes serving the stop and and stop number still remains blank.

    Think the reason the 175 got so much publicity is because it was the first route to be operated by GAI so they wanted to accustomize to the new operator and the new look buses but also to reassure people that the buses were the same PSO service like DB and not private buses I doubt it would have got the same publicity if it was operated by DB. But yes I agree with your point.


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    #176
    GM228
    Registered Users Posts: 8,925 ✭✭✭GM228


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    L1011 wrote: »
    I'm nearly certain that the union agreement and rates for overnight (beyond nitelink) already exist and have done so for some time?

    Alek regularly states that in an effort to quell the fear mongering. I think GM has mentioned something about it too.

    First I've heard of such, the only premium rate claims I've come across in recent years was one for Airlink drivers, the unions wanted €17 or so extra per day, the Labour Court rejected it.

    I understand all drivers on DBs commercial services get premium payments (of varying amounts), but there are no agreed night rates other than specifically for the Nitelink drivers that I know of.


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    #177
    Daith
    Registered Users Posts: 4,933 ✭✭✭Daith


    Is there any particular reason why there are four stops within a 10 minute walk of Broombridge in Cabra? Is it just using existing stops?


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    #178
    scouserstation
    Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭scouserstation


    KD345 wrote: »
    The new route is doing ok, but there seems to be an issue with installing bus stops. There are no stops on the section only served by the 40e. This is between the Ballycoolin Road junction and Hollystown. The route passes many industrial parks but there at no stops at all. There are a lot of homes being built in Hollywoodrath but there’s only one stop in Hollystown, the existing 40d stop, which involves a lengthy walk for residents along a road with no footpath in places.

    There are ads for the Go-Ahead routes on bus shelters across north Dublin but there seems to be none for the 40e which is strange considering it’s actually a brand new route. When you compare it to the fanfare of the 175, which was also a new service, the 40e seems to be forgotten about.

    For a route with lots of missing bus stops and no advertising it’s doing ok. I have observed drivers assisting passengers and answering questions and I’m sure word of mouth will help.

    Was on it the other morning and id say the bus was around quarter full, the way things are now I cant see this service being a busy one, however I believe there are plans to eventually run this bus through the Hollywoodrath estate which will have a population of 2000+ people when it is finished, this could be another 2 years down the line however, so hopefully this bus service will be viewed with a more long term goal


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    #179
    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Inside of morning rush hour the 40D is probably faster, the 40E gets stuck on the Ratoath road while the D has the bus lane as far as Whitworth Road, it'll probably be there before the E got to the Luas


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    #180
    Daith
    Registered Users Posts: 4,933 ✭✭✭Daith


    Hurrache wrote: »
    Inside of morning rush hour the 40D is probably faster, the 40E gets stuck on the Ratoath road while the D has the bus lane as far as Whitworth Road, it'll probably be there before the E got to the Luas

    Getting stuck on the Whitworth Road is fairly common at rush hour though. Be interesting to see which is better.


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    #181
    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Yea, but you're close enough to the city then that it doesn't feel as bad as being stuck before you even hit Cabra. On Twitter anyway that seems to be the main complaint.


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