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12-03-2021, 18:01   #1
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Why is 9/11 considered worse than other tragedies?

Not trying to be disrespectful. Any tragedy where people lose their lives is bad however I do wonder. 9/11 involved 3,000 people losing their lives. I think way more have been lost during WWII.

In 1994 years before the Rwandan genocide, almost 1,000,000 died within three months in a slaughter.

There are many tragedies which have taken countless more lives yet if you mention anything today, the 'freshest' tragedy is 9/11.

Does it have to do not so much with the death toll but method of attacK? The September 11th attacks were the ultimate deception, using seemingly innocuous commercial transport as weapons of terror. This was unprecedented compared to the other methods of attacks.
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12-03-2021, 18:09   #2
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You're comparing the events of a single morning to wars?
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12-03-2021, 20:46   #3
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It's in living memory, it was unexpected (to people outside specific security communities), much of it happened live on TV, it happened in a much more connected age and to much more connected people, and it hit somewhere that anyone who's experienced much American culture feels like they know.

Rwanda was "away" and while it was on our TVs every night, it was as packaged reports.

WWII had nights with more deaths, but it happened during a war, and reportage would have been written with eventually maybe some newsreels or radio coverage. By the time people knew the extent it was old news.


Time will reduce its perceived impact, as would something worse happening in a similar environment.
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It happened to America. That's why the second worst tragedy is Pearl Harbour.

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In living memory, a significant portion of it played out on Live TV.
It impacted a generation in the same way as the moon landing, Kennedy being shot or Packie Bonner saving that penalty.

Wars, genocide and conflict all over the world rage every day.
They are very rarely played out on Live TV, nor do they shut down aviation for 3 days.
Or have such an immediate visceral impact on people.

Above all, the collapse of 2 towers were seen live on TV and broadcast around the world and seen as a symbol of American disaster an attack that struck the heart of US economic power.
It must be remembered that for a large portion of the 1st day and even into the 2nd, death toll estimates ranged up to 50k.
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12-03-2021, 21:45   #6
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I don’t know if it’s considered worse but it’s certainly a “where we’re you when...” moment in history and people who were alive when it happened remember where they were. I was 16 in school and while I remember many things about secondary school, on that day I remember what classroom I was in and what subject it was when we heard the news. Also, not many events of this kind had been seen live on TV. That footage of the second plane coming into view is one many won’t forget.
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It's in living memory, it was unexpected (to people outside specific security communities), much of it happened live on TV, it happened in a much more connected age and to much more connected people, and it hit somewhere that anyone who's experienced much American culture feels like they know.

Rwanda was "away" and while it was on our TVs every night, it was as packaged reports.

WWII had nights with more deaths, but it happened during a war, and reportage would have been written with eventually maybe some newsreels or radio coverage. By the time people knew the extent it was old news.


Time will reduce its perceived impact, as would something worse happening in a similar environment.
The 1996 Manchester bombing was on live TV, in living memory. More examples:
The Docklands bomb was caught on CCTV
The Miltown cemetery attack was caught on pre-recorded TV along with the Corporal killings a few days later.
The 1991 mortar attack on Downing Street was caught on pre-recorded TV as well,
Some Bloody Friday car-bombs were caught on TV
Some of Bloody Sunday was captured on TV
And the worst Irish massacres Omagh & Dublin 1974 were caught on TV about 10 minutes afterwards.

All in living memory, all over shadowed by 9/11
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i don't think it's considered 'worse' than other tragedies, but it was unexpected as L1011 said, and also novel given the method the terrorists used, plus the imagery of falling (world famous) skyscrapers.
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Largely because the American propaganda machine will never let you forget it.
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Not trying to sound condescending here, but are you old enough to remember it? At the time it was an earth shattering event. I'm not old enough to remember the JFK assassination, but older people say that's the only thing comparable.

It wasn't the number of people who died as such. Like you say, more people have died before and since of all kinds of natural and manmade disasters. For me, with 9/11, the shocking thing was seeing the twin towers which were icons not just of New York but America, the great world power, come crashing down. It was like something out of a blockbuster movie, something you would never expect to happen in real life.
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The 1996 Manchester bombing was on live TV, in living memory. More examples:
The Docklands bomb was caught on CCTV
The Miltown cemetery attack was caught on pre-recorded TV along with the Corporal killings a few days later.
The 1991 mortar attack on Downing Street was caught on pre-recorded TV as well,
Some Bloody Friday car-bombs were caught on TV
Some of Bloody Sunday was captured on TV
And the worst Irish massacres Omagh & Dublin 1974 were caught on TV about 10 minutes afterwards.

All in living memory, all over shadowed by 9/11
So in your opinion which of your listed tragedies is of similar impact and should not be over shadowed by 9/11?
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The 1996 Manchester bombing was on live TV, in living memory. More examples:
The Docklands bomb was caught on CCTV
The Miltown cemetery attack was caught on pre-recorded TV along with the Corporal killings a few days later.
The 1991 mortar attack on Downing Street was caught on pre-recorded TV as well,
Some Bloody Friday car-bombs were caught on TV
Some of Bloody Sunday was captured on TV
And the worst Irish massacres Omagh & Dublin 1974 were caught on TV about 10 minutes afterwards.

All in living memory, all over shadowed by 9/11
You're picking one single point, and not quite getting it either.

Footage existing is not the same as much of the incident happening on live TV with a global audience.
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It’s cos most of it happened on tv. We will probably never see a day like it again . Wars genocide etc.. are bigger tragedies but you don’t see them live on tv thankfully
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So in your opinion which of your listed tragedies is of similar impact and should not be over shadowed by 9/11?

None, that was my point. Although had they happen in America they would be a lot more significant. America is the new Rome, it's not being critical it just is what it is.

For only three thousand two hundred people died in Northern Ireland out of about 1.6/7 million people. So the death equivalent for Northern Ireland for 9/11 would be about 500,000, and about 40,000 in England.
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It’s cos most of it happened on tv. We will probably never see a day like it again . Wars genocide etc.. are bigger tragedies but you don’t see them live on tv thankfully
We seen the Tet Offensive & a good bit of the Vietnam War of Independence on TV



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