Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

Gunmonkey wrote: »

It might well be from NK...possibly some spies within South Korea using the player as a means to contact their handlers remotely. I mean....could you see any self-respecting South Korean cyber affairs investigator subjecting themselves to digging through the RTE Player for more than 5 seconds?

Perhaps it is a NK version of a numbers station.

Elmo wrote: »

I like to know more about Morning Edition and why the choose 9am until 11:50 for the programme. I think its a union thing.

It had about a 5%, I wonder how well Dr. Phil does now?

Was it something like being not in direct competition with Ireland AM on TV3.

It was a decent News program compared to the muck on Ireland AM, you wouldn't even call that news with a break every 5 minutes and full of adverts.

Elmo wrote: »

2000s had city channel on UPC

A lot of vox pop interviews and some local businesses from what I remember. It was a good start but the problem was that most people never knew it existed. Still probably got more viewers than those late-night Oorts programmes on RTE.

Regards...jmcc

fritzelly wrote: »

It was only on Sky as well was it not?
There's another Irish channel on Sky, or used to be, cannot remember the name

Think it was only on a channel on UPC cable. Sky decided to open a news bureau in Dublin and hired Grainne Seoige. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_News_Ireland ). It didn't last long. Think that there were other Irish channels on Astra as well. (Might be worth asking in the Satellite TV forum.)

Regards...jmcc

fritzelly wrote: »

Found it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_TV

Was supposed to be on Saorview but closed up
Very limited line up but a portion of the licence fee wouldn't go amiss being allocated to independent broadcasters and make Saorview more interesting than the crap content it does have

The problem with Saorview is the audience size. The bulk of the population in Ireland is in cities with cable TV. It might be a good way to help grow Saorview but that gets into the whole Saorsat problem where RTE decided to put Saorview on a different satellite compared to the Astra satellites. It requires a different LNB and, at worst, a different dish. There are also Irish TV channels on the Sky/Astra package but they are encrypted. The copyright issue has made a mess of Irish satellite TV broadcasting. RTE's approach to Satellite TV doesn't seem to have changed since the 1980s. Ironically, Dee Forbes used to run Discovery Channel's UK/Ireland operation, I think, and would have more of a clue than the rest of RTE.

The other aspect is that how people watch TV programmes has changed. It used to be synchronous (watch while the programme was broadcast). Then VCRs came along and that was the start of asynchonous viewing. (People could record what they wanted to watch and choose when to watch.) DVRs accelerated that shift. With the advent of high bandwidth Internet, people now watch streaming services and can watch TV programmes on various players. The demand for live viewing has declined but the demand for programming has exploded. RTE won't change as long as it is getting the licence fee and being bailed out by the government.

Regards...jmcc

fritzelly wrote: »

programs like Prime Time/Clair Byrne (which have become dumbed down versions of what they used to be like)

I only noticed this recently. Questions and Answers and even the Frontline program were far more in depth and complex. Prime Time is also a shadow of its former self.

Not to mention Vincent Browne over on VM :pac:

Catering to the largest volume of viewers makes sense...but dumbing down current affairs is the opposite of what a mature viewer/savvy younger viewer would want?

fritzelly wrote: »

TBH don't see anything special in that YT clip that isn't still done now - the troubles was an easy and ever present issue that would always be in the news at the time to do documentaries about and be of interest to people

The BBC/ITV/C4 still have hard hitting documentaries (C4 do some very good ones, ITV probably less so). Must admit I'm a sucker for watching Rip off Britain as a bit of mindless entertainment but still serves a public interest that has no equivalent in Ireland bar at a very long stretch Liveline on the odd occasion death is not the main driver of the program

Cannot remember the last one RTE did - even the latest greyhound episode (lauded as an "expose") was exposed years ago so hardly breaking news. Even the nursing home scandals was out in the public but never spoken of...
Very easy to go after easy targets but in reality RTE are not exposing anything just putting more forefront in peoples eyes
RTE do not have any real investigative journalists - stuff is only exposed from guys working in the print media

Agreed on the 'exposes'... they've become embarrassingly recycled and second hand.

Before he flamed out, spectacularly, Eddie Hobbs had his 'Rip-Off Republic' which managed to go from 'cheap filler RTE program' to 'Sleeper hit phenomenon' for RTE.
If I remember correctly, it went from a couple hundred thousand viewers, to over 1.3 million viewers for its final episode.

(Of course, the follow up show, 'Ways to spend your SSIA' was a flop. Sums up Eddie Hobbs tv career, really.)

Hobbs tapped into a genuine anger that is, palpable, to this day, over how Ireland was becoming far too expensive. And this was before the boom went to total bust.
(Kind of like where we are now, similarly).

But that wasn't really investigative. The latest 'Eir expose'... folks could have told you about that many, many years ago.
You only have to go on Eir's facebook page to see customers showing the s**t quality product, and even sh***er quality customer service.

That's sort of the issue with much of the Prime Time investigations... they're stuff the dogs on the street know about.
Or better journos have covered the issue.

RTE used to be leading the way. But you can see the cutbacks and budget cuts at RTE right now.

FGR wrote: »

I only noticed this recently. Questions and Answers and even the Frontline program were far more in depth and complex. Prime Time is also a shadow of its former self.

Not to mention Vincent Browne over on VM :pac:

Catering to the largest volume of viewers makes sense...but dumbing down current affairs is the opposite of what a mature viewer/savvy younger viewer would want?

Vincent was probably the best of both worlds in that his combative style was very entertaining and brought in good viewer numbers but it wasnt completely dumbed down either mainly due to the vast knowledge of current affairs by Browne himself. He would often be quoting the constitution or some obscure legal case from decades back when making his points. In many ways it was educational along with the sh1t hitting the fan at regular intervals.

Would agree that Prime Time is a shadow of its former self. I find it hard to believe Miriam is getting 300k a year to read off a teleprompter in 30 second segments. Thats all she does really, introduce some video package for 30 seconds and then kick back for 10 minutes, do it again for the next segment and then again for the programs conclusion. Shes just a presenter who reads off a teleprompter, shes not a journalist. Its astonishing she is on 300k for the little work she does.

Muahahaha wrote: »

Vincent was probably the best of both worlds in that his combative style was very entertaining and brought in good viewer numbers but it wasnt completely dumbed down either mainly due to the vast knowledge of current affairs by Browne himself. He would often be quoting the constitution or some obscure legal case from decades back when making his points. In many ways it was educational along with the sh1t hitting the fan at regular intervals.

Would agree that Prime Time is a shadow of its former self. I find it hard to believe Miriam is getting 300k a year to read off a teleprompter in 30 second segments. Thats all she does really, introduce some video package for 30 seconds and then kick back for 10 minutes, do it again for the next segment and then again for the programs conclusion. Shes just a presenter who reads off a teleprompter, shes not a journalist. Its astonishing she is on 300k for the little work she does.

Claire Byrne on 200K+ (She was on 217K about two years ago,soon as the figures are released, I'm sure she got a pay increase.) is an absolute insult in my eyes.

Her TV show is The DailyMail, but dumbed down for idiots. I've no intention of listening to her on the radio.
I genuinely think she's one of the biggest hacks in RTE, and one of the worst journalists I've ever seen.

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Gardai have found ZERO evidence of this website...

https://www.rte.ie/news/crime/2020/1125/1180498-garda-commissioner-images/

This is just irresponsible, lazy, and scary fearmongering from a supposed national broadcaster.

anyone know the victims group

A victims' group had reported...

Which victims' group?

Elmo wrote: »

anyone know the victims group



Which victims' group?

Victim's Rights Alliance

https://www.independent.ie/news/the-lowest-of-the-low-hundreds-of-thousands-of-intimate-images-of-irish-women-released-online-without-consent-39766849.html

Seems little doubt that the images exist online.
AGS say they examined 10k images.

TomTomTim wrote: »

Both RTE and Virgin have gone female mad on their main news shows. Both outlets are well beyond majority female. .. Male dominance= sexist, female dominance= equality.

along with the extra female sports commentators who really earned their spot:rolleyes: