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Covid-XIX Part VI - 90 cases ROI (1 death) 29 in NI (as of 13 March) *Read OP*

  • 11-03-2020 12:45pm
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    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,093 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭


    XXXIV cases already in the Republic, XVI in the North. I fully expect temperatures to rise further (and if they do, call a doctor!) but would request everyone pays attention to the mod warnings carried over from earlier threads and set out below. In particular please remain civil to each other

    First thread

    Thread II

    Thread III

    Thread IV

    Thread V

    Mod warnings:
    Beasty wrote: »
    OK, time to step in with some mod instructions:

    1. Please interact in a civil manner
    2. Do not tell others what to do, or what to post
    3. If you have a problem with a post report it and leave the modding to the mods

    In terms of thread content:

    4. Treat everything you read here with caution. Anything posted is from an anonymous internet poster. You cannot assume anyone has any "specialist" knowledge whatever they claim
    5. Statistics are important to some (and I personally pay a lot of attention to them), but they are of very little use to anyone who is already caught up in this, or indeed knows of people who are caught up
    6. Terms such as "sinus", "airborne", "aerosol" have little relevance at this time in this jurisdiction. Ultimately though if cases are discovered in Ireland please pay attention to the relevant authorities and what they advise/recommend, and not some randomer(s) on the internet

    All the above is me talking as a complete layman on the subject. Like everything in this thread do not treat it as chapter and verse, beyond paying attention to items 1-3 above

    Any questions please PM me - do not try and dissect this post in-thread
    Beasty wrote: »
    Last time it was a "suggestion"/request

    Now it's an instruction

    Stop all the tit for tat stuff on the stats. None of us are in full possession of the facts and none of us can draw any "definitive" conclusions. Bottom line. It's serious. Not serious in Ireland at this stage, but may become so. Anyone caught up in this is not going to take much solace from any stats however they are complied

    Any questions PM me - do not respond to this warning in-thread
    Beasty wrote: »
    OK

    A number of posts have been sanctioned although it could have been many more

    Could everyone please re-read the warnings in the OP

    Could I also re-emphasise - attack the post, not the poster

    I understand people can get very emotional about this sort of thing. Regardless of that there is no reason this cannot be discussed in a civil manner. Yes there are people implying there is little to worry about. Equally there are some doom and gloom merchants in the thread. Despite appearances I actually think most posters are probably somewhere in the middle recognising this is serious, but at this stage not overly so in Ireland

    Whatever your own views are please recognise others are entitled to different views., Even if at different extremes please do not try and repeatedly ram your views down the throats of those who have differing views

    In due course we may well have a far better understanding of this virus, but at present I do not think anyone can claim anything approaching a full understanding, and as always we need to take information posted by anonymous internet posters with a pinch of salt

    Any questions PM me
    Beasty wrote: »
    I'm opening this one up with a very clear warning. Cut out all this cover-up/conspiracy stuff. If you have a reliable source quote it (not just their words but provide a link to a reliable source) - otherwise your claims carry little if any weight
    Beasty wrote: »
    A reminder to everyone

    It is against site rules to seek or offer any medical advice. Please do not post here about your symptoms asking what to do. Contact your doctor by telephone and they can advise you as appropriate
    Beasty wrote: »
    A few reminders:

    1. Some posters have been less than civil in their posting - particularly in the last few hours. Continue interacting in an uncivil manner and your posting privileges will be removed

    2. Until something is reported "officially" treat anything you read here with suspicion. I am not saying posters are deliberately posting misleading or incorrect information, but this site, as well as other social media outlets cannot be considered "verifiable" news outlets. Of course if the likes of the HSE have a verified Twitter account we can assume what they post is accurate. Randomers on here or elsewhere cannot be considered "official" or "reliable" sources

    3. I have little doubt there is some kind of lag in reporting "official" updates to numbers as I equally have little doubt there will be procedures to follow before any case becomes formally "confirmed". Hence you may feel you have information that contradicts any "official" information. That's not necessarily the case - it may be that you have access to information before others. Regardless of that do not post it as an actual case here. We can only go by official updates and you can expect others to be sceptical about anything not coming from an official source. That does not make your information wrong, but it needs to be formally verified before you should be claiming anything is "fact"

    All threadbans carry over, but we will reconsider if anyone wishes to discuss it further via PM

    Please remember we have a Conspiracy Theories forum for speculation. Treat any information posted here as if it's from an anonymous internet poster. No-one is an expert here whatever they may claim. Please provide reliable sources where you can, and if you cannot please caveat your claims accordingly


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Stay Safe Kids!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Hail Mary, who art in heaven.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,430 ✭✭✭touts


    Rugby. In the public interest we are postponing our biggest games until later in the year.

    Soccer. In the public interest we will play international games behind closed doors.

    Formula 1. In the public interest we will cancel races.

    Horse Racing. Screw you! This doesn't hurt our horses. Just give us your money.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    I am still quite positive about it all


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    I am still quite positive about it all

    Quick, isolate him!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I am still quite positive about it all
    would you say you have tested positive?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,913 ✭✭✭spookwoman




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,506 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    I miss Brexit


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭Christy42


    I love the question if you want email notifications. This thread would kill my inbox in a minute.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-n...906d0137664fc6
    Almost half of Bahrain's citizens evacuated from Iran have tested positive for coronavirus.
    Iran must have several million cases at this point in time


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,606 ✭✭✭Nermal


    20,000 deaths in Ireland is a reasonable scenario. I would prefer if people who go on about 'scaremongering' or 'hysterical nonsense' would own this number and say 'yes, I think that is a more reasonable cost than the financial burden that would be involved in halting the spread'.

    50,000 people die a year in Ireland anyway.

    I would spend 0.1% of GNP to delay the extra 20,000 deaths, €300M. Not more.

    I think we are going to end up spending more than that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 739 ✭✭✭flynnlives


    Some real heads in the sand on this thread.

    In UCHG there are only 10 icu beds.

    If 200 people get infected in Galway 5% of those will need critical care and boom! just like that there is no more icu beds.
    There are now 50 cases on the Island.


    But sure lets wait and see! It will be grand!


    WAKE THE **** UP FFS!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    It's not the flu.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    First page!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,895 ✭✭✭circadian


    Is anyone doing any work anymore? May as well just send everyone home.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Quick, isolate him!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Nermal wrote: »
    50,000 people die a year in Ireland anyway.

    I would spend 0.1% of GNP to delay the extra 20,000 deaths, €300M. Not more.

    I think we are going to end up spending more than that.

    No, there's usually 30,000 deaths annually.

    It may be double that figure with covid-19 outbreak.

    They say you can't put a price on a human life, but that's clearly not the case as that's effectively being done by the European governments. I think this was foolish as a fast effective response would have been more cost effective than what we got.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Prepare ye! For the times they are a changing, and near.


  • Registered Users Posts: 739 ✭✭✭flynnlives


    Mr.S wrote: »
    Of the 34 cases in Ireland, how many are currently in ICU?

    I think one or two are seriously ill which is in line with internatioanl rates.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    wakka12 wrote: »
    https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-n...906d0137664fc6
    Almost half of Bahrain's citizens evacuated from Iran have tested positive for coronavirus.
    Iran must have several million cases at this point in time

    Yep. But Italy could also have at lease a million cases also.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭eldamo


    the guy who sits behind me in work is just back from madrid.

    someone in the office raised it to the office manager that they were worried about him.

    my boss refused to send him home, we go off an alert list from the robert koch institute to decide how bad an area is.

    he isn't feeling well

    has a doctors appointment at 1pm.

    IT'S HAPPENING!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭Dr. Colossus


    Would you say it's time for our viewers to crack each other's heads open... and feast on the goo inside?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 12,909 Mod ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Mr.S wrote: »
    Of the 34 cases in Ireland, how many are currently in ICU?

    3 afaik. And the 3 of them are the community transmission cases.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,904 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I missed the Claire Byrne Show the other night, but I assume this is the transcript of the conversation she had with the infected patient?

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0310/1121355-coronavirus-patient-claire-byrne-live/

    It really does sound like he's grand, not what the media or her show would like. Not sensational enough!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I missed the Claire Byrne Show the other night, but I assume this is the transcript of the conversation she had with the infected patient?

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0310/1121355-coronavirus-patient-claire-byrne-live/

    It really does sound like he's grand, not what the media or her show would like. Not sensational enough!

    They'd hardly have been able to interview someone in an ICU.


  • Registered Users Posts: 600 ✭✭✭CSWS101


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    No touching of your face please.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    No, there's usually 30,000 deaths annually.

    It may be double that figure with covid-19 outbreak.

    They say you can't put a price on a human life, but that's clearly not the case as that's effectively being done by the European governments. I think this was foolish as a fast effective response would have been more cost effective than what we got.

    Oh you can but a price on a human life alright. Sure your man just did it

    300,000,000 divide by 20,000 = €13,636

    Seems very scabby to me given their likely PSRI contributions over the course of a lifetime


  • Registered Users Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Tordelback


    Over and over again I see people responding with incredulity about worst-case estimates, as if the number itself is inconceivable, that someone is pulling a fast one somehow. I honestly think it's because people are atrocious at working out percentages.

    A very small percentage of a very large number is still a very large number. Even an optimistic 1% mortality rate against a minimal 10% of the population infected is 4,500 deaths and 90,000 hospital admissions - with the enormous impact that would have on every other medical issue.

    These are simple, basic calculations. Incredulity isn't going to help.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,904 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    They'd hardly have been able to interview someone in an ICU.

    There's 2 sides to every story.

    This guy has the virus too. Can't discount his story.

    For every person who is ill in ICU, there are many more who have the virus and are not bad.

    We can't let the media scare stories lead the agenda.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Has anyone got a timeline for Ireland’s cases?

    Eg 27th Feb. x cases
    03rd March. x cases
    08th March x cases


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