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Luke Kelly statue vandalised

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  • #212
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    I was thinking along these lines. Because there is so little to report on (for obvious reasons) these fellas get notoriety and can brag to thier pals. Most likely the same crew that damaged it the last five times in a year.
    It would be vandalised anyway, reported or not.

    No one is reporting the vandalised street signs, tagged electrical cabinets, and graffiti'd walls and other general destruction that happens down there and it still happens.

    Move Luke to IMMA or the grounds of Aras before destructive vandalism happens.


  • #213
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users Posts: 18,202 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    It would be vandalised anyway, reported or not.

    No one is reporting the vandalised street signs, tagged electrical cabinets, and graffiti'd walls and other general destruction that happens down there and it still happens.

    Move Luke to IMMA or the grounds of Aras before destructive vandalism happens.

    Yeah you are probably right bit sad if came to that though.
    As another poster suggests Could just put him on a height so lads could not reach it? But then it would be harder for people to see.

    What is sad to me is that there seems to be no sense that Luke Kelly was 'one of thier own'. Something to aspire too. Plus, not that I know much about art/sculpture. But I think it is a cleverly done bit of work. Why would you want to damage it?

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #214
    Gwynplaine
    Registered Users Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Gwynplaine


    Sure it's in a scummy part of Dublin, what else would you expect.


  • #215
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    Yeah you are probably right bit sad if came to that though.
    As another poster suggests Could just put him on a height so lads could not reach it? But then it would be harder for people to see.

    What is sad to me is that there seems to be no sense that Luke Kelly was 'one of thier own'. Something to aspire too. Plus, not that I know much about art/sculpture. But I think it is a cleverly done bit of work. Why would you want to damage it?

    It's a disadvantaged area. Not all people, but there are generations of scummy people and drug abuse is rampant.

    Plenty of single mother Jacintas popping out sprogs over the years to leach off the state. The sprogs have grown up and know no better than learning from the behaviours of their folks. In reality didn't put much thought into bringing a kid into the world or raising that kid as a good appreciative member of society.


  • #216
    Strumms
    Registered Users Posts: 24,783 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    About moving it, the taxpayer would have to pay for it to be removed and taken away to the new location, pay for it to be installed in the new location, all the installation and preparation work and parts, pay for more cleaning... could be 5 grand plus...

    And then you’ll have people in the area giving out because the artwork of cultural enjoyment and significance is being taken taken from them, but they’ll be sticking up for the vandals claiming it’s happening because of a lack of social investment in the area... you don’t win with them....

    Don’t give and they are up in arms, give and they wreck it and they’ll be defended to the hilt.


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  • #217
    dd973
    Registered Users Posts: 625 ✭✭✭dd973


    Jerry Atrick wrote: »
    Whip it out of pikeyville and let it be appreciated somewhere else

    This is the nasal Dublin underclass we're talking about, stop being disrespectful to pikeys, they're practically Trinity PHD Post-Grads in comparison.


  • #218
    SeanW
    Registered Users Posts: 8,729 ✭✭✭SeanW


    I always thought having two statues of Luke Kelly put up in different parts of the city at almost the same time was a bizarre idea, more so the Sheriff St. statue which is just weird. Both the statue and where they put it. Just ... why? :confused:

    IMHO what the city should do is take the stupid thing down, and build a monument to the Dubliners and their 5 founder-members (Ronnie Drew, Luke Kelly, Ciarán Burke, Barney McKenna and John Sheahan) as near as possible to O'Donaghue's pub.


  • #219
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users Posts: 18,202 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    SeanW wrote: »
    I always thought having two statues of Luke Kelly put up in different parts of the city at almost the same time was a bizarre idea, more so the Sheriff St. statue which is just weird. Both the statue and where they put it. Just ... why? :confused:

    IMHO what the city should do is take the stupid thing down, and build a monument to the Dubliners and their 5 founder-members (Ronnie Drew, Luke Kelly, Ciarán Burke, Barney McKenna and John Sheahan) as near as possible to O'Donaghue's pub.

    Some state of affairs when you have to move them all there, they would never get break from drinking!

    The Luke Kelly head was put there because he was a head from Sheriff street.
    If they move it will be another symbolic slap in the face for the area. All because parents could not bring up a few feral youths properly.

    I remember when Ronnie Drew died it was around the time Dublin were playing a match in Croke Park. A few Dublin supporters stood in a moment of reflection at Luke Kelly bridge in Ballybough looking at the plaque.

    I thought it was such a nice touch and decent thing to do. Which is why I think it is important to have memorials in as many different places as possible. They will always hit home to someone. Or mean something, despite some people only knowing how to destroy. Creators will always be admired.

    Edit: They have arrested the two that were involved in criminal damage of the sculpture.

    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/lukekellystatue-dublin-arrests-gardai-breakingnews-18348414

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #220
    Hangdogroad
    Registered Users Posts: 4,870 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    Can't find the link now but one of them is a guy in his 40s "known to Gardai".


  • #221
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users Posts: 18,202 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Hangdogroad wrote: »
    Can't find the link now but one of them is a guy in his 40s "known to Gardai".

    I was incorrectly assuming they were just stupid young lads. In his 40's!? :eek:

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • #222
    josip
    Registered Users Posts: 13,624 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Probably being sprayed by Pee Mack who have the lucrative contract of cleaning it every time.


  • #223
    Bobblehats
    Registered Users Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    josip wrote: »
    Probably being sprayed by Pee Mack who have the lucrative contract of cleaning it every time.

    Thai comedy/horror/romance?


  • #224
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,720 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    I was incorrectly assuming they were just stupid young lads. In his 40's!? :eek:

    What a fukin eejit.


  • #225
    FVP3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    There doesn't seem to be any coherent community spirit left in Sherriff street, sadly.


  • #226
    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    FVP3 wrote: »
    There doesn't seem to be any coherent community spirit left in Sherriff street, sadly.
    "community spirit" The same old line wheeled out to describe inner city areas.
    " we had great neighbours on our balcony in the flats" FFS.


  • #227
    retalivity
    Registered Users Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Sure dont they play bingo, and give out stolen boxes of washing powder to oul ones, in between robbing bikes and shooting up. Salt adda ertt...


  • #228
    mikeym
    Registered Users Posts: 3,984 ✭✭✭mikeym


    Poor old Luke.


  • #229
    screamer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,130 ✭✭✭screamer


    I think it’s a hideous looking statue really awful. Perhaps if the media stopped reporting the vandalism of it, the scrotes would stop.


  • #230
    StackSteevens
    Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭StackSteevens


    And again, the 6th time in 18 months - how can skangers afford all the paint?

    https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2020/0624/1149302-luke-kelly-statue/


  • #231
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    screamer wrote: »
    I think it’s a hideous looking statue really awful. Perhaps if the media stopped reporting the vandalism of it, the scrotes would stop.
    Nah, it'll still end up on social media anyway.


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  • #232
    dmc17
    Registered Users Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭dmc17


    StackSteevens wrote: »
    And again, the 6th time in 18 months - how can skangers afford all the paint?

    https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2020/0624/1149302-luke-kelly-statue/

    The state pays them well for it


  • #233
    Bobblehats
    Registered Users Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    StackSteevens wrote: »
    And again, the 6th time in 18 months - how can skangers afford all the paint?

    https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2020/0624/1149302-luke-kelly-statue/

    Well this is different. It’s not even funny this time no creative element nor nothing just paint thrown on

    To both statues; in different locations in what seems a coordinated attack. Did Luke ever play a few tunes for the nazis?


  • #234
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    If I was a 16 year old scumbag and knew that something as easy and crude as daubing paint on something gets loads of news coverage each and every time without fail...


  • #235
    topper75
    Registered Users Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    brucky wrote: »
    ... And the left wing looney local Cllrs whinge and grandstand demanding “community gain” from the Dublin Docklands Development every 5 minutes to prop up their electoral careers. Laughable if it wasn’t so sad.

    Luke was staunchly leftist but I wouldn't class him as Looney brigade from what I read of him.

    This isn't my own cup of tea as I prefer less not more state involvement in people's lives, but it is worth noting how Marx in his writings clearly distinguished between proletariat and lumpen proletariat. He didn't have much time for the latter. He saw them merely as a tool to be used by bourgeois interests. He saw them for what they were.

    Modern day Irish, or indeed British, politics does not seem to get this. Like, at all.


  • #236
    JDxtra
    Registered Users Posts: 5,867 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    StackSteevens wrote: »
    And again, the 6th time in 18 months - how can skangers afford all the paint?

    https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2020/0624/1149302-luke-kelly-statue/

    Either Michael D. is smaller than I imagined or that statue is absolutely monstrous.


  • #237
    AllForIt
    Registered Users Posts: 8,268 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    How many statue's of him are there ffs?


  • #238
    catrat12
    Registered Users Posts: 470 ✭✭catrat12


    Ah for god sake I’m sick of hearing about poor old Luke kelly and all this vandalism of trees etc

    Is it time to just put in a museum cause it’s just going to keep happening.

    Also what exactly are the consequences if these scumbags get caught answer is none so there just going to keep doing it.


  • #239
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    If somebody gets caught doing stuff like this they should be made clean up graffiti, etc citywide whilst wearing a sandwich board indentifying them as filth.


  • #240
    o1s1n
    Registered Users Posts: 34,370 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    With the IQ levels involved, I wouldn't be surprised if the perpetrators mistook him for a slave trader.


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  • #241
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,386 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    I think I'd just leave it vandalised and ugly for a while. No media coverage and then the novelty will wear off.

    Get the locals involved with a clean up project and for them to take pride in it and it will eventually become unacceptable to touch it.

    If they just repeat what they have been doing then they can expect the same results.


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