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Upcoming DC Extended Universe (DCEU) Movies

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    #1622
    The White Wolf
    Registered Users Posts: 5,135 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    So according to a Deadline Hollywood report, we haven't seen the last of Henry Cavill's Superman.

    https://deadline.com/2020/05/man-of-steel-henry-cavill-superman-warner-bros-1202945025/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Inevitable after last week's news.

    If I'm enthused it's because of what Cavill has done outside of Superman. That's an indictment tbh. He really needs one strong showing in the role.


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    #1623
    The White Wolf
    Registered Users Posts: 5,135 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Very quiet in here recently.....I wonder why. ;)


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    #1624
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Well there aint that much superheroing going on tbh :D

    We prob should all have seen Black Widow for one by now...


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    #1625
    The White Wolf
    Registered Users Posts: 5,135 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    It'll be interesting to see what effect the Snyder cut is going to have on the likes of Wonder Woman and Aquaman.

    I'm on the record as saying that I walked out of the latter but I decided to rewatch it last night. One thing I pride myself on is holding my hands up upon reassessment of a film and have to say this is one of those situations.

    While I still feel Aquaman is the most blatant case of copying the marvel formula this far to average results, it does have this certain quality where it manages to stay on the right side of all out cheese and make you smile. And watching it in 4K it's hard to recall a more gorgeous looking film in the genre.

    I do however feel that a repeat of that type of film will not work for a sequel and some chances will need to be taken.

    My hope is that if the Snyder cut is successful it will encourage a course correction back to the type of films that will provide an alternative as opposed to an imitation of the MCU.

    That isn't so much an endorsement of Snyder but more a hope that WB/DC will give their directors a little bit more leeway and freedom.


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    #1626
    FunLover18
    Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    The White Wolf wrote: »
    It'll be interesting to see what effect the Snyder cut is going to have on the likes of Wonder Woman and Aquaman.

    I'm on the record as saying that I walked out of the latter but I decided to rewatch it last night. One thing I pride myself on is holding my hands up upon reassessment of a film and have to say this is one of those situations.

    While I still feel Aquaman is the most blatant case of copying the marvel formula this far to average results, it does have this certain quality where it manages to stay on the right side of all out cheese and make you smile. And watching it in 4K it's hard to recall a more gorgeous looking film in the genre.

    I do however feel that a repeat of that type of film will not work for a sequel and some chances will need to be taken.

    My hope is that if the Snyder cut is successful it will encourage a course correction back to the type of films that will provide an alternative as opposed to an imitation of the MCU.

    That isn't so much an endorsement of Snyder but more a hope that WB/DC will give their directors a little bit more leeway and freedom.

    The Snyder Cut will have very little impact on the direction of the "DCEU", it will be watched by hardcore fans and the more curious film fans all of whom will need access to some form of streaming service, not nearly enough to warrant any kind of course correction. It's being released as a promotional push for the HBO/WB streaming service, nothing more.

    Side not, I saw Aquaman in 4DX in cineworld, terrible experience but I cannot think of a better film to watch in order to get the full 4DX experience.


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    #1627
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The purpose of the Sunder Cut is to boost the HBO streaming service, that's all IMO. They had all that footage, a groundswell of niche fandom obsessing about it and some instant kudos from greenlighting the project. It'd want to take a phenomenally large positive swing for DC to reassess the direction of their movies again. It'll make for an intellectual exercise for sure, wouldn't be convinced it'll have that much of an effect.


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    #1628
    Doctor DooM
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    The White Wolf wrote: »

    My hope is that if the Snyder cut is successful it will encourage a course correction back to the type of films that will provide an alternative as opposed to an imitation of the MCU.

    Are people forgetting why JS ended up the way it did in the first place? Why the (completely botched) course correction took place?

    While I think everyone agrees imitating Marvel is wasting the potential of the DCU, Snyder has proven he is not the template to build it around. He doesn't get the characters, he bends them to fit whatever Randian tale he currently feels like telling.

    ...Or perhaps, he didn't but does now. I would LOVE to see him come out of the terrible time he's had stronger, and give us a whole new vision and direction for the DCEU. Man, I'd love for that to be the ending of this story.

    But, if it's just more of the same, it'll be more boring grey "you owe the world nothing" drudgery, and personally I'm completely done with that.


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    #1629
    The White Wolf
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    FunLover18 wrote: »
    The Snyder Cut will have very little impact on the direction of the "DCEU", it will be watched by hardcore fans and the more curious film fans all of whom will need access to some form of streaming service, not nearly enough to warrant any kind of course correction. It's being released as a promotional push for the HBO/WB streaming service, nothing more.

    Side not, I saw Aquaman in 4DX in cineworld, terrible experience but I cannot think of a better film to watch in order to get the full 4DX experience.

    Given all signs point to Henry Cavill getting another outing as Superman as a part of whatever deal he came to with Snyder and WB, I don't think this is quite true....yet anyway.

    The buzz goes beyond Cavill as well and is starting to touch Affleck and Fisher. It's not impossible that the DCEU might find its new home on the streaming platform. It's easy to dismiss the possibility of it all but as the last two weeks have shown, anything is possible.;)


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    #1630
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,285 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    The DCEU Snyder Universe may well continue as its own entity going forward.

    DC made a stand alone Joker they are making a stand alone Batman with no connection to the DCEU.

    If it makes money and adds subscribers to HBO Max that what its all about.


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    #1631
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,285 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Teaser for the Snyder cut



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    #1632
    FunLover18
    Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    Teaser for the Snyder cut


    Was Jesse Eisenberg in JL? I can't remember


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    #1633
    pixelburp
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    FunLover18 wrote: »
    Was Jesse Eisenberg in JL? I can't remember

    Post credits scene, but not the main "plot" such as it was. Though it's hard to recall that original cut. Not sure if the Synder cut was meant to feature him.


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    #1634
    The White Wolf
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    FunLover18 wrote: »
    Was Jesse Eisenberg in JL? I can't remember

    It sounds like a different version of what made it to screen but it's his dialogue from BvS at the end when Batman interrogates him.

    I could have done without that weird pan out to a young Darkseid in the distance at the end, but the cave scene in itself with Eisenberg's dialogue was nicely ominous. I don't think this was intended for release, apparently Snyder made it for the cast and Momoa shared it on Instagram. Hence the teaser not coming from any official channels.


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    #1635
    Foxtrol
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    The White Wolf wrote: »
    It sounds like a different version of what made it to screen but it's his dialogue from BvS at the end when Batman interrogates him.

    I could have done without that weird pan out to a young Darkseid in the distance at the end, but the cave scene in itself with Eisenberg's dialogue was nicely ominous. I don't think this was intended for release, apparently Snyder made it for the cast and Momoa shared it on Instagram. Hence the teaser not coming from any official channels.

    Can't get more official than HBOMax, that is where the film is going to be distributed.


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    #1636
    The White Wolf
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    Foxtrol wrote: »
    Can't get more official than HBOMax, that is where the film is going to be distributed.

    This teaser didn't debut on an official channel, that's what I daid. But I'm sure you knew that.


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    #1637
    Lithium93_
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    Surely the HBOMax YouTube channel counts as official?


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    #1638
    The White Wolf
    Registered Users Posts: 5,135 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    Surely the HBOMax YouTube channel counts as official?

    It did not debut on the channel. Momoa on Instagram was the first to release the video and the only channels that picked it up initially were not WB or HBO channels.


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    #1639
    JP Liz V1
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    Michael Keaton's Batman could be returning in The Flash film
    https://forumofgames.com/




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    #1640
    The White Wolf
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    Ray Fisher (@ray8fisher) Tweeted:
    Joss Wheadon’s on-set treatment of the cast and crew of Justice League was gross, abusive, unprofessional, and completely unacceptable.

    He was enabled, in many ways, by Geoff Johns and Jon Berg.

    Accountability>Entertainment https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1278362556214755329?s=20


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    #1641
    FunLover18
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    The White Wolf wrote: »
    Ray Fisher (@ray8fisher) Tweeted:
    Joss Wheadon’s on-set treatment of the cast and crew of Justice League was gross, abusive, unprofessional, and completely unacceptable.

    He was enabled, in many ways, by Geoff Johns and Jon Berg.

    Accountability>Entertainment https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1278362556214755329?s=20

    Not the first time Whedon has been shown to be a bad egg. Wonder if the bigger names will back up these claims.


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    #1642
    unhappys10
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    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Michael Keaton's Batman could be returning in The Flash film

    That would be unreal, his first Batman film was the first one I saw in the cinema, can still taste the minstrels and coke!


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    #1643
    The White Wolf
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    FunLover18 wrote: »
    Not the first time Whedon has been shown to be a bad egg. Wonder if the bigger names will back up these claims.

    Gadot or Momoa would be massive if they came out in support. Would love to hear from Affleck because he looks like death in those reshoots.

    Yeah Keaton would be unreal. Him and Bale are Batman to me.


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    #1644
    Agent Coulson
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    I wonder would HBOMax make a full on mini series out of the Snyder cuts of Batman vs Superman and The Justice League.


    There must be 10 hours of footage between the two.


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    #1645
    Lithium93_
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    The White Wolf wrote: »
    Gadot or Momoa would be massive if they came out in support. Would love to hear from Affleck because he looks like death in those reshoots.

    Yeah Keaton would be unreal. Him and Bale are Batman to me.

    Well you got one.

    https://variety.com/2020/film/news/jason-momoa-ray-fisher-justice-league-1234762350/


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    #1646
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    Well you got one.

    https://variety.com/2020/film/news/jason-momoa-ray-fisher-justice-league-1234762350/

    Christ. I wonder what happened. That doesn't read like a barrel of laughs, if Fisher wouldn't even talk to the investigator without consulting his legal team :/


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    #1647
    The White Wolf
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    Momoa's tweet is nice but I think Fisher needed a bit more, maybe it will come.

    Fisher said in an IG video that Johns phoned him to gloat when Cyborg was cast in DP. Pretty petty sh1t from someone who was meant to be the head of creative output for a studio. A lot of people are dismissing it as nothing but I don't know what I'd say if that was my boss or ex boss ringing me up.


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    #1648
    Foxtrol
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    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    I wonder would HBOMax make a full on mini series out of the Snyder cuts of Batman vs Superman and The Justice League.


    There must be 10 hours of footage between the two.

    Justice League is coming out as a 4 part mini-series (presumably to milk as many subscribers as possible).

    Don't see the need for a 3rd cut of BvS


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    #1649
    Agent Coulson
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    ‘The Suicide Squad’ TV Spinoff ‘Peacemaker’ Starring John Cena From James Gunn Ordered By HBO Max


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    #1650
    Slydice
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    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    ‘Peacemaker’ Starring John Cena

    I thought he put in a solid performance in The Wall:
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4218696/

    Felt like a serious film though. Not sure how he'll stack up in a comedy role if that is what Gunn has in mind.


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    #1651
    FunLover18
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    Slydice wrote: »
    I thought he put in a solid performance in The Wall:
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4218696/

    Felt like a serious film though. Not sure how he'll stack up in a comedy role if that is what Gunn has in mind.

    I would recommend Blockers I'd you haven't already seen it, I was pleasantly surprised by his comedy chops.


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