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08-11-2018, 21:18   #46
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How old were you when you realized you could watch pornhub on your smarttv?

I was today years old


Not sure my lodger would like that...
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Not sure my lodger would like that...
They might join in.
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They might join in.

The wife defo wouldn't like that.
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How old were you when you realized you could watch pornhub on your smarttv?

I was today years old

Is there a CCleaner for smart TVs? Asking for a friend!
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LOL bollocks. At best they're in a nice box, they've had endless issues with design in the last few years. Then they try and make you repair through themselves, that's even if they'll do the repair. They've never been better, just different. Now they're 'different' in all the wrong ways just using off the shelf tech for double the price. And for some reason the fanbois keep trying to defend their anti-consumer nonsense.
Sorry man but ye fandroid lads are blinkered.
Look at huawei’s latest flagship phone “mate 20 pro”.
Same price as iPhone.
Loads of people have issues with green backlight bleeding and Huawei tried to pass it off as an oled feature.
I sent an iPhone back to Apple last Monday for replacement battery.
UPS came to collect it, delivered it to Apple who fixed it Tuesday and UPS delivered it back to me on Wednesday.
Show me an android phone manufacturer who can deliver the same service??
Thought so!!!

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Not all but many consumer electronics seem to have a fixed average price point for a high range model.

A couple of years ago I found an old newspaper from 1995 or so with a full page ad for phones. They were £200.

An €800 iPhone is similar money today taking inflation and disposable income into account.

The manufacturers keep innovating to keep justifying the high price which would fall otherwise due to competition, market saturation, etc.

But for a given item the "high price " remains remarkably static in real terms over the years.
It may seem like a static constant when only equating time/inflation.

But when you add actual innovation into it? The ability to send text messaging was huge, big colourful screens was huge, smart phones were huge. But how many years old are those true innovations?

A 200 euro phone back at the turn of the century was dripping innovation. Now what are you getting in return for paying the same equivalent price?

What is an 800 euro phone doing today, that an 800 euro phone wasn't doing last year? Or the year before that? Or the year before that? Negligible stuff.
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Sorry man but ye fandroid lads are blinkered.
Look at huawei’s latest flagship phone “mate 20 pro”.
Same price as iPhone.
Loads of people have issues with green backlight bleeding and Huawei tried to pass it off as an oles feature.
I sent an iPhone back to Apple last Monday for replacement battery.
UPS came to collect it, delivered it to Apple who fixed it Tuesday and UPS delivered it back to me on Wednesday.
Show me an android phone manufacturer who can deliver the same service??
Thought so!!!

I don't have to send my stuff back tbh.
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I sent an iPhone back to Apple last Monday for replacement battery.
UPS came to collect it, delivered it to Apple who fixed it Tuesday and UPS delivered it back to me on Wednesday.
Show me an android phone manufacturer who can deliver the same service??
Thought so!!!
......no we can't....cause if you've an android phone that needs the battery replacing under warranty they just send you out a new battery, take off cover, pop in new battery...job done.

I'm not sure how not being able to take out the battery to replace it could possibly be seen as any kind of advantage, don't get me started on SD cards
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......no we can't....cause if you've an android phone that needs the battery replacing under warranty they just send you out a new battery, take off cover, pop in new battery...job done.

I'm not sure how not being able to take out the battery to replace it could possibly be seen as any kind of advantage, don't get me started on SD cards
There are very very few Android phones that have a removable back these days.
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Not sure my lodger would like that...
Euphemisms are way overpriced.
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My parents got their first TV shortly after they were married. £70 or so for a 14 inch B&W set - that's nearly 2 grand in today's money. It was still in use 10 years later. The wireless lasted a lot longer, although it did have a few bits glued together after one or two "incidents", probably caused by us kids
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I agree with you about 3D - total flop, didn't work in the 50s, didn't work in the 80s and still not working in the 2010s ... in fact I don't think they bother making 3d TVs now.

But HD and 4K were game changers, watching movies and sports especially in HD and now 4K was a WOW moment for me .... couldn't watch on SD now.
High definition, absolutely. But how many years old is that now?

Is 4k making a similar leap? I don't think so, not nearly as much.

And then where does that leave 8k??

Its my overall main point, that we are paying the same money year in and year out, for less and less improvements. Its way overpriced.

If things weren't hijacked by marketing and hype, we could all have the option of a perfectly acceptable laptop for 100 quid now. And if you were allowed the choice of an old-technology-but-barely-any-difference laptop for 100 euro or a brand-new-but-barely-any-difference laptop for 1000 euro...what would any level-headed person choose?
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One Plus 6... Sweet as a nut
Chinese phone manufactured in a sweatshop (well almost all are but this one definitely is). One Plus phones tend to catch fire by the way
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How about a Pear. We've had enough of Apples.
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There are very very few Android phones that have a removable back these days.
Really? huh...think that's a moronic way of designing things.

Then again I can't remember the last time I've bought a 'mainstream' phone.
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