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04-11-2018, 22:13   #61
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You mean boring and dull the thread would have dropped off the board.

The post disagreeing with my first post has 16 thanks and I find that quite encouraging.

But my cover is blown and this thread now has a lot of attention if you have any questions ask away.
Why would it be boring and dull ?
To be honest and open would have gained you a lot of respect for saying how it is for you , but instead it seems to have had the opposite effect .
I wish you well , I have no questions for you that I haven't already asked my own child .
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To counterbalance that part of the right education for people on the spectrum is to help them to communicate appropriately.

You cannot cover all scenarios hence why having some support in a working environment is required however it's not a free pass for really bad behavior .
Bad behaviour never deserves a "free pass"

But is it really that bad for example, to have a colleague tell you to your face that "your idea is stupid" instead of the more "correct" "your idea has a some good points but needs more work"?
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Agreed. Indeed the opening post was quite disingenuous considering many of us had already read posts by him where he sharply put down another poster who said he had AS and went on to say he had it too. So saying any cover was blown is waffle, as he made it public quite clearly himself.
I'm loathe to partake in the discussion, as the motives are blurred.
The other poster was starting rubbish threads and using his AS as an excuse I also declared in that thread I had it myself.

That thread and his many other threads was part of my motivation for starting this one.

My motive is clear I wanted to hook people into the thread who have misconceptions and try and clear them up with the help of other decent posters.
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You ascertain that they mess up relationships but you call your friends children and grandchildren weirdos.
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This is After Hours the home of Dole bashing trallever bashing and outrage politics.
Ah yah sorry I thought you wanted to be taken seriously, seems your just attention seeking and looking for validation .
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A number of posters on this very board have it and they are a mixed bag.

A relatives son has it a friends grandson has it I work with a couple of people with it.
I notice some of those with the condition are prone to online trolling for the sake of attention seeking as they seem unable to interact with people in a normal way.

My impression of these people is that they are very annoying and emotionally immature.
They may seem intelligent but they seem to panic when they have to do anything outside their narrow comfort zone.

They seem to mess up all relationships and friendships that is if they can even form them in the first place.
They also come across as selfish and weird and they can ask the same question over and over again as if looking for reassurance.

Despite the PC version of the syndrome these people seem prone to mood swings and bursts of anger if they are pushed too far outside their comfort zone.

What are your impressions of people with Aspergers am I being unfair or am I being truthful?

Are these people weirdos creepy and annoying?
Different strokes for different folks.
Of course they are going to seem weird to you because they do not conform to normal social interactions.
I only ever encounter one with the condition I know of. He told me the first time I ever saw him. Basically told me his whole life story and some stuff mainstream people would not.
He said he was on the mild side of it.
He is a highly intelligent fella with a PHD.
I knew nothing of the condition really but he explained it all to me.
That they become obsessed with a particular item or hobby.
They find the things mainstream people take for granted such as normal 'how's the weather conversation' difficult.
They seem really task driven and goal orientated so that will mean they are suited to certain types of jobs in particular.

As for them being annoying they are no more annoying then any other person to me.
I think the secret is that you have to accept that they have certain traits that they cannot help, but there are other aspects to them that are positive.
The same as anyone else really in that sense.

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Technically, yes. If we’re getting into specifics anyway



A teacher. Yes. One who has taught students who are mildly on the spectrum. And those who are so far on the spectrum that they’re borderline for continuing in mainstream education.

Aside from the experience I have in teaching students with ASD, I had to study a huge amount of psychology of adolescence and education, and any professionals that we engaged with considered ASD to be a diagnosis or disorder, not a disease.

You can’t catch Aspergers or Autism. Calling it a disease is derogatory, IMO.



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Do you think being able to catch a thing makes it it a disease?
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Do you think being able to catch a thing makes it it a disease?

Indeed, I didn't realise you could contract alcoholism. Inherit perhaps, but that's a separate debate...
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I have a question, open to anyone really, but since you’ve used the term a few times now - what’s the deal with ‘Aspies’? Personally, I find it cringe inducing as it comes off as some sort of an attempt to create a community of people with commonalities where there really aren’t any as I’ve never met two people who had been diagnosed with AS who had anything else in common other than they had been diagnosed with AS.

As for the diagnosis of AS itself, I could take it or leave it, I don’t have any issue with it one way or another that I don’t also have with diagnoses of autism in adults and children, namely that they’ve widened the criteria to be so broad now that pretty much anyone could be diagnosed as being autistic.

A lot of people on the spectrum have found each other online and we have forums in which we share advice and try and offer support to each other.

Aspies and Auties are how we describe ourselves and Aspergers still is a term on this side of the Atlantic.


By the way we call the rest of you NTs Neurotypicals.
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Bad behaviour never deserves a "free pass"

But is it really that bad for example, to have a colleague tell you to your face that "your idea is stupid" instead of the more "correct" "your idea has a some good points but needs more work"?
No it's not but that's why we have programs from larger companies which is working to try and integrate folk on the specturn more and take advantage of their strengths.

There are limits though on bad behavior and it's a two way street.
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Do you think being able to catch a thing makes it it a disease?
It is not a genetic disease so the correct term would be disorder.
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You ascertain that they mess up relationships but you call your friends children and grandchildren weirdos.
That is what people call us and trust me I speak to people on the spectrum all the time.

We do mess up relationships and people do say we come across as weirdos.

Not calling anybody that simply owning the term.
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Tbh , you're an expert on the topic in how it is for you , not for everyone else with a diagnosis of AS . No two people are the same in how it affects them .
Exactly. I know two people with an AS diagnosis and they could not be more different. I’d never be so ignorant as to say “all people with AS are xyz” no more than I’d make that generalisation about someone who didn’t have it. Crazy!
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By the way, I post on that board quite a lot and I have read quite a lot there.

I have a number of friends there also trust me I know my stuff here.

If I had of been honest in my original post this thread would have just dropped off the board and everybody knows it.

https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewf...a27e27937c65d2
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Exactly. I know two people with an AS diagnosis and they could not be more different. I’d never be so ignorant as to say “all people with AS are xyz” no more than I’d make that generalisation about someone who didn’t have it. Crazy!

People with Aspergers to a very large extent DO come across as creepy and annoying this is a fact you need to accept and deal with and if you don't the poor child that is unaware of this will have to deal with social rejection and bullying.
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