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17-10-2018, 09:12   #31
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Ireland is a nuetral country Britain isn't. Young people join foreign militaries be they British , American or French do so because they want to see combat, loyalty doesn't come into it. As for being employed by a foreign military it's the very same as being employed by a foreign company.
that's very simplistic
Aye, but in my experience it is true. Most lads from Ireland who joined the forces did so to go on tour.
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Also, if you don't consume British media by the geansai-load, you probably won't have to encounter this all that much. Switch off SKY/BBC if the presence of a red flower gets to you.
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PoppyWatch on twitter is worth a follow for the time of year we're in.
Brings out all the gammon heads.
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PoppyWatch on twitter is worth a follow for the time of year we're in.
Brings out all the gammon heads.


not sure what it means or who it refers to but it sounds like my type of insult
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Churchill said that without them the war would not have been won; Hitler would have taken over
Churchill said a lot of things!

There were a lot of reasons the Axis countries lost - sheer overstretching themselves, the Russian winter, Allied access to penicillin, the Manhattan project even (although you could argue the war was already won by the time it was deployed)

27,000 Paddies made precious little difference I'm afraid!
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To me the Poppy represents the futility of war. It doesn’t matter the race, religion or political beliefs of those killed, either civilians or those in the armed forces. Some comments on this thread show that nothing had changed. People still see things differently and react with hostility to the beliefs of others.
Make love, not war.
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17-10-2018, 09:27   #38
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To me the Poppy represents the futility of war. It doesn’t matter the race, religion or political beliefs of those killed, either civilians or those in the armed forces. Some comments on this thread show that nothing had changed. People still see things differently and react with hostility to the beliefs of others.
Make love, not war.
that's not its intended purpose though - you can't just decide for yourself what the intention of the symbol is..
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Based on your experiences of what, exactly?
On the fact that people who consider themselves modern and progressive tend not to bother all that much with symbols that represent political or nationalist-based ideas of historical warfare.
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Ireland is a nuetral country Britain isn't. Young people join foreign militaries be they British , American or French do so because they want to see combat, loyalty doesn't come into it. As for being employed by a foreign military it's the very same as being employed by a foreign company.
So again, the question is: IF Britain for some reason invaded Ireland, what would these Irish soldiers in the British army do then? So, yes, loyalty DOES come into it. Would they blindly follow orders or would they risk court martial and possible execution?

In no way would working for a commercial enterprise ever create the same possibility of conflict of loyalties between country and employer.

Yes, I know this is all highly unlikely, but I had to continue this to show the ridiculousness of equating a foreign military with a foreign company.
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As for being employed by a foreign military it's the very same as being employed by a foreign company.
No it's not, you clown!

Intel aren't going to tell you to climb in a helicopter and bomb a settlement somewhere in the Khyber pass, because there's a 25% chance that Tim Cook is in the big tent on the left!

Don't be ridiculous. Fighting armies deal in death, destruction and misery, not stocks, bonds and quarterly reports.

You're absolutely right insofar as at the end of the day, it is always about money, but that's where the similarity ends.
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Churchill said a lot of things!

There were a lot of reasons the Axis countries lost - sheer overstretching themselves, the Russian winter, Allied access to penicillin, the Manhattan project even (although you could argue the war was already won by the time it was deployed)

27,000 Paddies made precious little difference I'm afraid!
what a terrible way to see brave men. and what your post says about you. yeeeeeeeuuuuuuuurkkkkkkkkkk
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And what will you do? Send a strongly worded letter?
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what a terrible way to see brave men. and what your post says about you. yeeeeeeeuuuuuuuurkkkkkkkkkk
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To me the Poppy represents the futility of war. It doesn’t matter the race, religion or political beliefs of those killed, either civilians or those in the armed forces. Some comments on this thread show that nothing had changed. People still see things differently and react with hostility to the beliefs of others.
Make love, not war.
To me it represents unicorns jumping through rainbows and sugarplum fairies dancing on icicles.
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