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17-10-2018, 07:53   #1
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There's a red one with a shamrock now, so is there any more need for debate?
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17-10-2018, 08:01   #2
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Your dead right, no gimmic makes them acceptable, end off.
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17-10-2018, 08:08   #3
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There's a red one with a shamrock now, so is there any more need for debate?
It's still the Royal British Legion supporting all ex British troops, so no there's no need for debate. You either support them or you don't.
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Your dead right, no gimmic makes them acceptable, end off.
White poppy?
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I can see them getting trendier here with the "oooh look how modern and progressive I am" attitude that's infesting the country these days.
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White poppy?
No poppy, ever.
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Listening to some Fine Gael senator or something on newstalk this morning (I was still half asleep and didn't catch his name!) Anyway his point was, yes by all means we should remember "the fallen" but we should remember them by raging against the shower of bastards who sent them to their deaths, not but sentimentalising it with a poxy paper flower.

I agree with him - the whole gushing over the poppy you see these days is nothing short of disgusting. I just don't get the romanticising of war.

I'm sorry Britain, you didn't have a "glorious empire" - you raped and plundered half the world. Your history isn't anything to be proud of, quite the opposite in fact. The world doesn't look up to you with awe and respect - you are in fact a right shower of cúnts!

So, eh, no poppy for me thanks (unless you mean that blondie one above, there's always an exception!)
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Huge numbers of Irish born served in both wars.

Including my grandfather (born in Moville) who ended up as captain of a corvette.

When he was invalided out in '42 he retired back to Moville again.

Was massively proud of his service for the rest of his life.

there are still numerous Irish born (North and South) serving in the British forces.
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Listening to some Fine Gael senator or something on newstalk this morning (I was still half asleep and didn't catch his name!) Anyway his point was, yes by all means we should remember "the fallen" but we should remember them by raging against the shower of bastards who sent them to their deaths, not but sentimentalising it with a poxy paper flower.
Give me their addresses and I will.
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Huge numbers of Irish born served in both wars.

Including my grandfather (born in Moville) who ended up as captain of a corvette.

When he was invalided out in '42 he retired back to Moville again.

Was massively proud of his service for the rest of his life.

there are still numerous Irish born (North and South) serving in the British forces.
Their passports should instantly be ripped to shreds as soon as they sign up. The actual Irish ones I mean.
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Huge numbers of Irish born served in both wars.

Including my grandfather (born in Moville) who ended up as captain of a corvette.

When he was invalided out in '42 he retired back to Moville again.

Was massively proud of his service for the rest of his life.

there are still numerous Irish born (North and South) serving in the British forces.
27,000 Irish men served in WW2. Both those living in the UK and Irish here.

Churchill said that without them the war would not have been won; Hitler would have taken over

Many of these Irish gave their lives in the war for freedom from oppression.

Time and past time to give world wide thanks for our freedom together
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Huge numbers of Irish born served in both wars.
You know there's more than two wars, right? And the poppy represents them all, including the atrocities committed in Ireland and India...right?

It's become an almost fascist movement that everyone in the UK is required to wear a poppy for a few weeks before and after Remembrance Sunday.

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Huge numbers of Irish born served in both wars.

Including my grandfather (born in Moville) who ended up as captain of a corvette.

When he was invalided out in '42 he retired back to Moville again.

Was massively proud of his service for the rest of his life.

there are still numerous Irish born (North and South) serving in the British forces.
This a very valid point.

However it doesn’t succeed the fact that the poppy has come so symbolise support for the British armed forces, the same forces that occupied the six counties in such a brutal fashion, it’s insulting to people to expect them to accept such a symbol.
It may not be it’s initial intention, but that’s what it’s become a symbol of.
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Yay, the annual Poppy thread!!!

I'm sure people will make thoughtful and insightful contributions that haven't been aired before in previous years' editions.
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