King Of Fighters XIII discussion thread

Dreddybajs · 19-02-2010 9:13pm #1

No official announcement yet, but info here:

http://www.versuscity.net/2010/02/18/king-of-fighters-13-at-aou/

Let's hope it's better than KOFXII apparently was!

Retr0gamer · 19-02-2010 11:25pm

What I'm getting from the hardcore crowd is that KoFXII was a solid game it's just that it was only a bare bones crappy single player game and versus mode. Also the lack of backgrounds and characters, a pitiful amount for what is essentially the vs. series for SNK, meant it felt unfinished. SNK said that KoFXII would be a bare bones and a build block for the rest of the series. The character sprites and background took very long to draw and animate so they said that they are going to build upon the last installment with each successive game so they won't have to keep redrawing sprites and backgrounds. I'm hoping this will be good and also hoping for some decent netcode because so far on all SNK games it has been horrendous.

DARK-KNIGHT · 20-02-2010 5:06am

a copy of this came available on adverts and i have my oar in for it! retro and dreddy when i have played it you can borrow it ok?

Dreddybajs · 20-02-2010 5:41am

raycaulwell wrote: »

a copy of this came available on adverts and i have my oar in for it! retro and dreddy when i have played it you can borrow it ok?

Hey man, this thread is about a new version which hasn't actually been announced or shown yet. King of Fighters XII which I think you're talking about is meant to be fairly poor.

Xluna · 20-02-2010 9:11am

I played it and I traded it in soon after. The online mode is beyond a joke. There's only survival mode as a single player option. The makers promised an update which would fix the online issues and give new charachters (including Mai:pac:) and more single player modes. What we got was a half assed "effort" of a patch which made the online play slightly less rubbish,but it was still unplayable-nothing else. Even the achievements seemed rushed.
I'm sure KOFXIII will be infinitely better than KOFXIII but I hope the travesty that was KOFXII has'nt tarnished the reputation of the series to the point where sales will have a huge drop.( It happened with Suikoden. IV was poor but sold well then V was a Final Fantasy beater but sold poorly because of it's predecessor.) It will have to be good considering the hype surrounding the BluBlaze games.

Xinkai · 20-02-2010 12:03pm

They never said they were putting Mai in KOF12, in fact i remember the SNK heads saying specifically that they WEREN'T putting Mai in there.

Xluna · 20-02-2010 12:35pm

Xinkai wrote: »

They never said they were putting Mai in KOF12, in fact i remember the SNK heads saying specifically that they WEREN'T putting Mai in there.

Some one put a link in xbox forums and it said they were putting her,aswell as a load of other stuff in an update. I definitely remember reading it. It should still be in their forum.

Xinkai · 20-02-2010 12:42pm

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3174839

Sorry, Mai fans -- your favorite character will definitely not be appearing in the upcoming King of Fighters XII. SNK has decided to keep her out of the lineup, at least for the time being.

defo not appearing
snk.

thanks.

Xluna · 20-02-2010 12:56pm

Xinkai wrote: »

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3174839

Sorry, Mai fans -- your favorite character will definitely not be appearing in the upcoming King of Fighters XII. SNK has decided to keep her out of the lineup, at least for the time being.

defo not appearing
snk.

thanks.

This was the article I saw. I guess my memory is a bit hazy.:pac:

From the KoF forum

Important King of Fighters XII Status Update No.2
Hello KOFXII Fans:

As we stated yesterday, we are currently in serious talks with SNK PLAYMORE about getting some of the online/netcode and functional concerns addressed as soon as possible. We have also passed along the top DLC requests that the fans are making so they can be very much aware of what people want. Here are some of the requests we have specifically passed along to SNK PLAYMORE:

FUNCTIONAL ISSUES:
1. Netcode performance improvements **HIGHEST PRIORITY**
2. Ability to search for game sessions by connection speeds
3. Adding the ability for players and spectators to quit out of online matches
4. Addition of “kick” or “remove player” option from host lobbies
5. Various game play bugs, including the Raiden/Elizabeth critical combo bug
6. Ability to cancel or back out of the character selection screen

DLC FAN REQUESTS:
1. Additional Characters (and yes, Mai is on top of the list we provided SNK)
2. Additional Stages
3. Ability to Color Edit Characters
4. Endless Survival Mode
5. Endless Time Attack Modes
6. Challenge Mode(s)

We will keep you informed of any progress made with SNK PLAYMORE and we again thank you for the incredible support. We encourage you to continue with the constructive feedback, as we are fans of the series too!

Yreval · 20-02-2010 11:24pm

http://www.versuscity.net/2010/02/20/kof13-no-shows-at-aou/

Hmm.

Dreddybajs · 25-02-2010 11:24am

Official announcement:

http://kotaku.com/5479843/snk-announces-the-king-of-fighters-xiii?skyline=true&s=i

Sairus · 25-02-2010 11:47am

I really do hope XIII is a step up. I still give KoF Maximum Impact 2 a twirl every few monthes and I always try to give any fighter I see a chance, but I got bored with KoFXII pretty quick.
Not as quick as NeoGeo Battle Coliseum mind you, but that goes without saying. XD

Xinkai · 25-02-2010 1:09pm

As a fan of the KoF games, imo and the other KoF fans, no KoF will beat 98UM or 2K2UM. Those were THE PERFECT kof games, so KOF13 will come and go by the casual crowd, everyone else will still be on 98 & 2K2.

K.O.Kiki · 04-03-2010 3:54pm

So basically, HUEG character roster = perfect KOF?

Yreval · 25-03-2010 4:09pm

Guess who's back, back again?

Mai is back, tell a friend!

More info from this event: (source: this thread from post 237 onwards)

This is from the premiere.

"Short video showing ash saga conclusion, ash turning black, long haired ash(?) mukaki and a bunch of 2001 characters?"

Mai and teammates yuri and king sofar

6 ??? Characters, 1 new team

Kim, raiden.. ???

Iori, mature, ???

Unknown or unannounced, 4 stages.. Forest, uk with biases, china and like statues

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EX Specials are in. I.E. Athena does Psycho Ball, then does EX Psycho Ball. Hits 3 times.

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Me & X...StrikeFreedom are getting this from a mutual buddy of ours at the event. Except for Vice being in, this is my assumption since Iori and Mature were shown together as was Kim and Raiden.

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here what i found out:
Elisabeth has new tricks
King has a new outfit
KOf12 team system
10colors each

source. kofunion bbs

for MAI's lovers:
http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/u...eetahq/Mai.jpg

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"Hyperdrive Mode" (maybe be similar to 02 UM MAX Mode cancels), some new combo mechanic in as well "Fancy Cancel" (?)

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Super flash, speed is alot faster less floaty looks like normal kof, Mai has fake flame, kyo has down c, back back down c

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Air serpent wave, king has air fireball custom looks different than some cancels Mai was doing, elbow air dive etc cancels without "hyperdrive" effect

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Kyo is aerial Serpent Wave? What in the ****...?

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Yuri seems anorexic and range shorter, special effect on super ko

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Duolon seems to have rekka as command and weird smoke projectlie that didn't seem to hit

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Yuri and King are Both skinny and Mai looks a bit like cvs sprite but uglier

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Xiii is going to be at sbo, sbo producer interview

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Kula and K`

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Sorry for some wrong info earlier I got it from a bbs.

No k or kula.

The 2001 characters were the hizoku clan from 2001 .. Preview ended

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If you check out the vid there seems to be a meter with a counter. Also a smaller bar just above it. Seeing as how KoFXIII has got a spot it SBO I really do hope the game comes out before then. I cant be arsed to wait that long!

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Update: Yuri and King have also been confirmed at the press conference, with 6 new characters and one new team in total for this new iteration of the series. http://www.versuscity.net/

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So the roster will be 34/35 characters 22+12=34 and Dark Ash as Boss makes 35.

At the event there was talk of K',Kula and Yamazaki so they might get confirmed later.

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http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/2935/1269515718759.jpg
(disappointingly, it seems they've ended the tradition of Athena getting a new outfit every game)

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http://i44.tinypic.com/mi2mns.jpg
(character select)

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More info from NeoGaf:

・舞、ユリ、キング参戦

Mai, Yuri and King are in.

・舞の背中が丸見えでエロイ

You can see all of Mai's back, sexaaay!

・キングは上着なし

King isn't wearing her coat/jacket.

・テリーにバスターウルフあり

Terry has his Buster Wolf.

・EX必殺技EX超必殺技追加(例:ユリのらいおけんの弾が増える)

There are EX DMs and EX SDMs, for example you can get extra hits with Yuri's Raioken.

・ハイパードライブゲージでドライブキャンセルすると必殺技から必殺技or超必殺技につながる　オリコンちっく

If you Drive Cancel your hyper drive gauge you can chain a DM into another DM or SDM. Like a create a combo system sort of.

・京に空中大蛇薙

Kyo can do his SDM?? (Don't play Kyo) in the air. The one where he slides forward with the massive flame in front of him. His standard one.

・アテナのグラ変わらず

Athena's "gura" is unchanged. Not sure what a "gura" is, assume it's a shortened name for one of her moves or describing her look...

・マチュアと庵と???でチーム

Mature and Iori are on a team with an unrevealed character.

・カラーエディットの数が最多

There are heaps of character colors.

・紅丸が裸

Benimaru is naked??!?!

・アルゼンチンバックブリーカーの間合いが相変わらず狭い

Argentine Backbreaker timing is strict as always.

・キャラセレの時間が長い

Character select time is long.

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http://i42.tinypic.com/vglnir.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/13z7i2x.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/2hg91u0.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/jfhm45.jpg

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=20448139&postcount=611

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- Mai, Yuri, King, some not yet revealed characters (already mentioned in the thread)
- New stages (including a Japanese festival, UK bus terminal, a jungle, and some elephant party in India)
- EX moves: they can have more hits, be invincible, juggled off of, be faster, and some projectiles go through others
- Yuri's EX Raiouken shoots two fbs
- Raiden's EX Giant Bomb can be juggled off of
- EX supers cost 2 bars
- You can "Drive Cancel" specials at the cost of super meter
- At max Hyper Drive bar you can activate Hyper Drive Mode to temporarily get infinite DCs
- Mai has giant bouncing tits
- Mai got j.Ced out of a super
- Super bar fills really quickly even on block
- Release THIS SUMMER
- Will be in Tougeki C group
- I got a free cup given to the first 100 people who lined up

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjBn-JzatBY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDxXnR2TvYI

(looks like Kyo has a mid-air Serpent Wave)

(bunch of ther vids here: http://www.youtube.com/user/samalus)

Right now this game is looking much, much better than XII.

Sairus · 25-03-2010 4:18pm

It was pretty disgraceful that Mai wasn't in XII, having said that, all is forgiven for her having such a sweet hit-the-ground animation.
I didn't really play XII enough to gauge if this is going to be much better though.

Xinkai · 25-03-2010 4:37pm

If KOF13 has:

Nameless
Mai
X

SF4 type netcode
Good players online
A good variety of characters
more than 4 stages
A European player base (I'm looking at France here)

Then i'll take it up.
As a long time SNK fan, i was VERY dissapointed & pissed off at KOF12, the system was in the game, it was well planned & executed in arcades, but the console port, where the real money is, was just ****.

But you all know this already :pac:

Yreval · 25-03-2010 4:39pm

Sairus wrote: »

It was pretty disgraceful that Mai wasn't in XII, having said that, all is forgiven for her having such a sweet hit-the-ground animation.
I didn't really play XII enough to gauge if this is going to be much better though.

Me neither, although the gameplay system has been massively overhauled and most of what people didn't like about XII (online notwithstanding) seems to be gone.

Some more pics from the event, plus screenshots and character artwork:
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/249/249137/

K.O.Kiki · 25-03-2010 4:50pm

Oh man, that looks so fast.
Like 3S fast.

If Super turns out to be slow again, I might switch.

chopperbyrne · 25-03-2010 5:18pm

Xinkai wrote: »

If KOF13 has:

SF4 type netcode

Why the hell would anyone want SF IV netcode?

GGPO style netcode would be much better. Isn't BlazBlue's netcode supposed to be quite good?

Xinkai · 25-03-2010 6:12pm

Even Ponder says GGPO is not as great as people make it out to be, it just has a low amount of people playing it, meaning less contingency, & less lag. Final Fight on XBLA & PSN is a test to improve the netcode.

BlazBlue does have a good netcode, but it struggles on some long distance matches. Before each match, you get a syncronizing scree, then it continues to sync during the match intro. The longer the stutter sync goes on, the more input lag in the match. If i was to play a chap from japan say, It'd take around a minute for the intro sequence, which normally takes 15 seconds, to sync in.

AKA there'd be 45ms input lag.

The good thing about this though, it calculates the lag before the match, & the fight will play out smoothly during the rounds. No start-stop lag during the fight, just input lag.

K.O.Kiki · 25-03-2010 6:45pm

What was XII's netcode like again?

Dreddybajs · 25-03-2010 7:03pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

What was XII's netcode like again?

it lagged on the character select screen

Ramza · 25-03-2010 7:33pm

KOF is ****e

So is SFIV Netcode

Yreval · 26-03-2010 3:12pm

Some location test stuff (source: this thread)

Some move lists:
http://i.imgur.com/G5b3v.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YXvGo.jpg

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Some more info at the loke test.

-used Beth, ash, iori
-ex seems decent more hits/damage
-lots of jumping attacks work like 12 and not older kofs harder to hit
-hopping crossups are easy to do by accident
-Beth has dashing uppercut that seems atleast upperbody invincible it went through haoshokoken, a juggle after into command throw okiseme
-ash still no command grab or overhead, ex flame blow kiss makes 2 appear at close and far and last a while
-ioris df+c is slow maybe overhead most combos work.. Didn't get to land a grab
-got kicked off machine (win cap)
-athenas crystal does little damage but is like instant
-yuri has no uppercut but akuma like dive kick,ranges on pokes are short
-mais ex fan is fast

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my friend saw another guy play Iori can't seem to combo super like before as the uppercut seems to recover slower but not sure if he used the right one

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http://basgrospoing.fr/wp-content/up...kofxiii_04.jpg
http://basgrospoing.fr/wp-content/up...kofxiii_05.jpg
http://basgrospoing.fr/wp-content/up...kofxiii_06.jpg
http://basgrospoing.fr/wp-content/up...kofxiii_07.jpg
http://basgrospoing.fr/wp-content/up...kofxiii_08.jpg
http://basgrospoing.fr/wp-content/up...kofxiii_09.jpg
http://basgrospoing.fr/wp-content/up...kofxiii_10.jpg
http://basgrospoing.fr/wp-content/up...kofxiii_12.jpg
http://basgrospoing.fr/wp-content/up...kofxiii_13.jpg
http://basgrospoing.fr/wp-content/up...kofxiii_14.jpg
http://basgrospoing.fr/wp-content/up...kofxiii_15.jpg

Found these while browing 2ch.net's fighting game board using Google Translate. Hopefully it's worth while for some of you

EDIT:
Drive [Cancel]
Techniques in the art can cancel KOF2002 Hissatsu Hissatsu as canceled from anywhere in the imposition of
Kyoto also drive 3D cancellation of special techniques, such as
To cancel the drive to consume 50 percent Haipadoraibugeji [Hyper Drive Gauge]
MAX not have to be a gauge for above 50% can be Doraibukyanseru [Drive Cancel]
Th is one of the characters are 100% MAX gauge gauge cancellations, so MAX it can drive 2 times
Th characters of the two gauges are 150% MAX MAX gauge because it extends to three times the drive cancellation
Th characters of the three gauges are 200% MAX MAX gauge because it extends to four times the drive cancellation

[Haipadoraibumodo]
Cancellations will drive unlimited period of time
The gauge is flashing Haipadoraibugeji [Hyper Drive Gauge] 100% over BC will be invoked by simultaneously pressing
Th second of the three characters MAX gauge fired from the reservoir if it increases, it persists longer than Haipadoraibumodo [Hyper Drive Mode]
In the gauge Roketebajon Hissatsu KOF2002 techniques such as the cancellation does not decrease gradually diminish over time as in Oricon
Why stop with the opponent's attack as the Oricon unknown and critical counter

Lol google translate info from 2ch.net as well, same thread

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http://game.snkplaymore.co.jp/offici...010/03/_1.html

Some loke test pics

Loke test vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2bhGFOlWgQ (Dedicated to Pendo)

and another: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpPQPDEl6YQ

and two more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mMRqFsBvNg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6SYFSjX4v0

(lol@King Glitch)

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This is the without a doubt the best thing in the game so far:

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Oh wow! SNKP are smart...Yuri has a choice of thigh highs, knee highs with shorts and standard leggings.

Scavenger XIII · 26-03-2010 5:49pm

Yuri has a choice of thigh highs, knee highs with shorts and standard leggings.

Fapfapfapfapfapfapfapfap. :pac:

Yreval · 26-03-2010 7:19pm

Some interesting stuff regarding alternate colours:

- Terry has an alternate color that makes him look like Robert.
- And Robert too has an alternate color that makes him look like Terry
- Yuri has an alternate color that makes her look like Iroha from Samurai Showdown.
- Benimaru has an alternate color which makes his arms silver metallic in color, dark pants & topless, so he looks like Jax from Mortal Kombat (?!)

http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=226135&p=8599213&viewfull=1#post8599213

K.O.Kiki · 29-03-2010 9:14pm

Buttload of new info:

source: http://www.shoryuken.com/content.php?r=492-King-of-Fighters-13-incoming!
- KOF XIII essentially plays pretty close to 2002UM, but with much better graphics. I loved it, even though it wasn't what I was expecting / hoping for from the sequel to XII. It seems like an extremely solid system presented in a beautiful package. I just hope they nail the balance.
- The producer, Masaaki Kukino, was there watching the loke test. Guy looked exhausted. Understandable I suppose, since he'd apparently been standing in an arcade for almost three-days straight watching people play KOF. That's a long-ass time to be watching people play KOF. He was quite friendly when I asked him a question, though. His English isn't bad either.
- After playing, you were given a survey to fill out about your impressions of the game. I made only two (rather small) criticisms.
- I asked for XII's camera zoom be included as an option, since I liked it. Screw you, pixel-haters!
- I asked for Terry to say "ARE YOU OKAY!?" before the Buster Wolf. If that gets added (which is probably won't) I expect full credit!
- And in the section where they asked what characters you wanted to see, I said K', Kula, Yamazaki and Vanessa (in that order). I chose them partly based I see them requested by fans more than most other characters. Since I know a lot of KOF fans outside of Japan can't go to the location test, I did my best to make sure your requests were (indirectly) heard.
... Thinking back, I should have just requested Ryuhaku Todo, Duck King, and Heavy D!.

Yreval · 29-03-2010 10:28pm

http://game.snkplaymore.co.jp/official/kof-xiii/

Here's the official website. This was spotted earlier on before being swiftly removed:

Also, music and backgrounds taken from the site.

K.O.Kiki · 08-04-2010 2:51pm

Intro is up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dSWwW25nSU

Scavenger XIII · 08-04-2010 4:39pm

Hmmm, with Rose getting a shot in the intro here's hoping Adel will stop letting his sister dress him up, genocide cutter Ash up the chin and take over as the main character.

King Of Fighters XIII discussion thread

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