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39 people found dead in trailer in UK

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    #62
    [Deleted User]
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    LillySV wrote: »
    No they get way less in uk ....Ireland leads in the free money club

    Which makes me thinks this was a group coming over for work...

    Anyways rip, very sad

    bigger population means more chance of hiding i guess.

    a large number of Chinese immigrants were found dead in the back of a lorry in Calais a few year back i think. A dutch driver was charged by the French police and I guess this meant more checks and tighter security, hence the route through Ireland.


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    #63
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Sad to hear.

    Every freight trailer should have built in carbon dioxide detectors that customs should be able to monitor remotely.


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    #64
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Sad to hear.

    Every freight trailer should have built in carbon dioxide detectors that customs should be able to monitor remotely.

    That's a very good idea.


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    #65
    rock22
    Registered Users Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭rock22


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Presumably they went that way because checks for people smuggling are much lighter on the Cherbourg/rosslare route .

    .

    replaced with Cherbourg - Dublin since beginning of year


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    #66
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Aegir wrote: »
    bigger population means more chance of hiding i guess.
    Also no requirement to carry photo ID, unlike some other EU countries, think in France you must carry photo ID at all times, likely coupled with mobile fingerprint readers.

    In the uk there is likely a larger black market to operate within, stashing a dozen or so in a shed, of the back garden isn't unheard of neither - to avoid any real housing costs while earning a couple of quid per hour.


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    #67
    NIMAN
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    Very sad.
    What a terrible way to go.


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    #68
    DellyBelly
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    Surely the driver must have heard them banging on the inside of the container unless of course it happened while they were in the boat and there was no one around. The terror must have been awful.


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    #69
    Birneybau
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    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Very sad way to go out for sure but these people knew they were taking a risk and it didnt work out for them. Had they made it to their destination they would also have been a burden on the tax payer. The best way to prevent these things happening is to make it not worth their while ie. If they are found to be illigal, send them straight back to where they came from. Give them the most basic accomodation and food rations whilst they are in custody and in the long run, fix the problems they are running from

    Yeah, fcuk it, hopefully 39 dead puts them off *sarcasm*


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    #70
    Sir Oxman
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    DellyBelly wrote: »
    Surely the driver must have heard them banging on the inside of the container unless of course it happened while they were in the boat and there was no one around. The terror must have been awful.


    Horrific though it may sound, they might well have been dead by the time they reached Dublin if the Europe-Ireland-UK route is correct


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    #71
    vicwatson
    Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Those poor people.

    0012e5fa-800.jpg


    That's a reefer unit. Poor people could have froze to death:(


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    #72
    scotchy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,182 ✭✭✭scotchy


    Just talking about this with a lorry driver in the job. He says he knows of plenty of Bulgarian registered, but Irish operated trucks working on the Island of Ireland, And he seems to think that this truck is one of them, and it didn't necessarily travel here from the continent.

    .

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    #73
    Plumbthedepths
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    Esperanza Whispering Receiver wrote: »

    In the uk there is likely a larger black market to operate within, stashing a dozen or so in a shed, of the back garden isn't unheard of neither - to avoid any real housing costs while earning a couple of quid per hour.

    Or on a halting site.


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    #74
    derrymcorry
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭derrymcorry


    The driver is from County Monaghan according to RTÉ.

    WTF Essex Police, since when is County Monaghan in Northern Ireland?


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    #75
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    Esse85 wrote: »
    I'm guessing the UK are more generous in terms of benefits.
    Not particularly. It is probably a combination of factors.
    English is widely spoken.
    No ID requirements.
    Established communities to help integrate.
    General laissez faire approach to regulations like employment or immigration.
    Lower unemployment.


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    #76
    derrymcorry
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭derrymcorry


    There are two serious aspects of this case:

    1. The fact that 39 people are dead in the back of a lorry.

    2. The fact that Essex Police has said that the driver was from Northern Ireland when in fact he was from County Monaghan. This is a British police force suggesting a territorial claim over a part of another country and it is a monumental disgrace.


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    #77
    BarryD2
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    derrymcorry wrote: »
    2. The fact that Essex Police has said that the driver was from Northern Ireland when in fact he was from County Monaghan. This is a British police force suggesting a territorial claim over a part of another country and it is a monumental disgrace.

    Comment above in very poor taste, given the circumstances :(


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    #78
    Plumbthedepths
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    derrymcorry wrote: »
    There are two serious aspects of this case:

    1. The fact that 39 people are dead in the back of a lorry.

    2. The fact that Essex Police has said that the driver was from Northern Ireland when in fact he was from County Monaghan. This is a British police force suggesting a territorial claim over a part of another country and it is a monumental disgrace.

    Seriously? Cop on to yourself. The only important thing here is the death of 39 people.
    The nationality of the driver is irrelevant.


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    #79
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,704 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    derrymcorry wrote: »
    There are two serious aspects of this case:

    1. The fact that 39 people are dead in the back of a lorry.

    2. The fact that Essex Police has said that the driver was from Northern Ireland when in fact he was from County Monaghan. This is a British police force suggesting a territorial claim over a part of another country and it is a monumental disgrace.



    That's what is a monumental disgrace about this ?


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    #80
    BarryD2
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    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Those poor people.

    0012e5fa-800.jpg

    Seems to be parked up on an access road in an industrial estate? You might expect it to be backed in near a warehouse and that the discovery was made when they went to unload? Just looks a bit odd.


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    #81
    Bigbagofcans
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    Such a heartbreaking story, those poor people :(

    For the negative commenters, put yourself in their shoes.


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    #82
    derrymcorry
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭derrymcorry


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    That's what is a monumental disgrace about this ?

    The fact they said he was from Northern Ireland when he was in fact from County Monaghan. This is an illegal territorial claim as they made out that County Monaghan was in NI.

    Isn't it bad enough they have the Six Counties?


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    #83
    Graces7
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    YFlyer wrote: »
    Sad to hear.

    Every freight trailer should have built in carbon dioxide detectors that customs should be able to monitor remotely.

    There is a series on youtube of officials seeking out illegals hiding aboard containers etc at Calais as they try to be smuggled to the UK. They do have CO2detectors and they also make full use of sniffer dogs.

    The sheer scale of the traffic going through makes a check on every vehicle not feasible

    If you google "smuggling people in at Calais" videos?


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    #84
    Sir Oxman
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    scotchy wrote: »
    Just talking about this with a lorry driver in the job. He says he knows of plenty of Bulgarian registered, but Irish operated trucks working on the Island of Ireland, And he seems to think that this truck is one of them, and it didn't necessarily travel here from the continent.

    .


    Looks like trailer is a Global Trailer Rentals Limited one going by a quick snatch of the back of the trailer on BBC News

    They have an office in Dublin and solo business check shows registered address in Co Monaghan


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    #85
    derrymcorry
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭derrymcorry


    Priti Patel also said that he was from Northern Ireland.

    COUNTY MONAGHAN IS IN THE REPUBLIC YOU STUPID WOMAN!

    Rant over.


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    #86
    Graces7
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    Bigbagofcans wrote: »
    Such a heartbreaking story, those poor people :(

    For the negative commenters, put yourself in their shoes.

    Suffocation is a painful and terrifying death that no one deserves.


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    #87
    ebbsy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Arrested for murder ?
    What the hell happened ?
    Surely he was just driving illegal immigrants, I mean manslaughter at the most.

    I would say he knew.

    This was not one or two guys trying to cut their way into a lorry.


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    #88
    Padraig Mor
    Registered Users Posts: 9,533 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    derrymcorry wrote: »
    The fact they said he was from Northern Ireland when he was in fact from County Monaghan. This is an illegal territorial claim as they made out that County Monaghan was in NI.

    Isn't it bad enough they have the Six Counties?

    Oh go away.


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    #89
    1641
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    derrymcorry wrote: »
    Priti Patel also said that he was from Northern Ireland.

    COUNTY MONAGHAN IS IN THE REPUBLIC YOU STUPID WOMAN!

    Rant over.




    In the context of what has just happened it is pathetic to be ranting about this.


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    #90
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,704 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    derrymcorry wrote: »
    The fact they said he was from Northern Ireland when he was in fact from County Monaghan. This is an illegal territorial claim as they made out that County Monaghan was in NI.

    Isn't it bad enough they have the Six Counties?

    Its a mistake, I doubt the UK police are trying to claim Monaghan. Don't be so stupid.


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    #91
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,704 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    ebbsy wrote: »
    I would say he knew.

    This was not one or two guys trying to cut their way into a lorry.

    I think with the number involved it would be very unlikely he did not know.


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