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ASTEC 63DV - Outdoor Alarm Box

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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    The S22 is the SAB interface. I think he's also suggesting the Astec relay card which would also allow you to connect global bells.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 TheImp


    Thanks Koolkid. Do you know if they are still available and where they can be sourced?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    You won't get them in any suppliers.
    I might have a few left, I'll check tomorrow.
    Where are you located?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 TheImp


    You would be a life saver Koolkid if you did! Live in Drogheda but travel to Dublin for work every day! He came back to me today and said its the s22 I need


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Send me a PM with your details & I'll give you a shout later.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2 rorytours


    does any know if i could get a s22 kit anywhere?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    There are a few options. Where are you located?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 rorytours


    im in ashbourne co meath, my house is wired for astec, so if i cannot get the bell sorted i will have to buy and install wire free .
    i will arrange collection anywhere


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    I have just looked into this with the manufacturers . We have a lot on order. Not sure if they will be here before Christmas I'm afraid.
    If you were thinking of upgrading the GSD i70 would give you the option of a Global bell or a wireless one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    HKC are supplying the S22's. NEW have them in stock.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 jp1000


    I see hkc are selling a bellbox HKC-AS-S22 will this work with an astec 2 wire system without a conversion? Any help would be greatly appreciated.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 jp1000


    My local electrical wholesaler got on to hkc and they said that box would not work with astec. Now I managed to get an s22 module and i have a secondhand aritec bellbox AS522 would anybody know how to connect them together? I will post a photo of the wiring diagram on the bellbox


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 jp1000


    It won’t let me post a photo of bellbox so here are the connections on the aritech:

    1-beacon hold-off 0v or floating
    2-siren hold off 0v or floating
    3-10-14.5v 70ma max standby 500 ma max. Operating ( including beacon
    4-GND
    5-28v max 100 ma
    6-tamper loop


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    jp1000 wrote: »
    It won’t let me post a photo of bellbox so here are the connections on the aritech:

    1-beacon hold-off 0v or floating
    2-siren hold off 0v or floating
    3-10-14.5v 70ma max standby 500 ma max. Operating ( including beacon
    4-GND
    5-28v max 100 ma
    6-tamper loop


    1 - Internal or Strobe -
    2 - Ext bell -
    3 - Ext Bell +
    4 - BHO Bell Hold off.
    6 Tamper return in series with whatever resistor the panel requires.

    You may also need a 1k resistor across 1 & 3 & 2 & 3.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    jp1000 wrote: »
    I see hkc are selling a bellbox HKC-AS-S22 will this work with an astec 2 wire system without a conversion? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    This appears to be an old link on Mercury website.
    No news of these being available. Still investigating , although I cant see HKC wanting to go back to something they ditched so quickly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 jagrace


    hi I have an Astec alarm and the outside bell box is knackered I cant get hold of an S22 card but i have a relay card can I set this up to trigger a global bell? thx


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    jagrace wrote: »
    hi I have an Astec alarm and the outside bell box is knackered I cant get hold of an S22 card but i have a relay card can I set this up to trigger a global bell? thx

    A bit messy but it should work.
    Eight hand side of bell output & right side of zone input will give you 12vdc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 jagrace


    The connections you mentioned would trigger the relay when the alarm goes off ? how would I wire the global SAB up to work with it I presume the relay when triggered just opens or closes a set of contacts? what about the bell hold off strobe connects etc? thanks for the reply


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    You would wire as follows..

    + to + bell +strobe
    - to common of 2 relays and BHO
    NO of relay 1 to bell -
    NO of relay 2 to strobe -


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 jagrace


    Thanks koolkid i will give this a try thanks for the help


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20 jagrace


    KoolKid wrote: »
    You would wire as follows..

    + to + bell +strobe
    - to common of 2 relays and BHO
    NO of relay 1 to bell -
    NO of relay 2 to strobe -

    hi koolkid i had a look at the relay i have its a s71 mains relay will that work ? thx


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    If the relay is N/O to close then yes. If its switching mains out you may need another relay with a mains coil to give you an open/close contact.
    Getting a bit messy now..!


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 jagrace


    KoolKid wrote: »
    If the relay is N/O to close then yes. If its switching mains out you may need another relay with a mains coil to give you an open/close contact.
    Getting a bit messy now..!

    hi kool kid thanks again for getting back to me it say mains but just looks like a relay i would say you could switch anything through it . from your previous post will i need two N/O contacts ? the relay only has one. can i put a + in and switch out to the + to the strobe and bell ? where can i pick up the + and - from on the panel? thx


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 jagrace


    jagrace wrote: »
    hi kool kid thanks again for getting back to me it say mains but just looks like a relay i would say you could switch anything through it . from your previous post will i need two N/O contacts ? the relay only has one. can i put a + in and switch out to the + to the strobe and bell ? where can i pick up the + and - from on the panel? thx

    sorry meant switching the - not the + through the relay !!!!


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