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Limerick Businesses Closed V 2.0 [Mod note post 1]

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    #3332
    Jofspring
    Registered Users Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    YFlyer wrote: »
    What is the situation with Debenhams?

    Looks like the trucks arrived to clear out the stock last night. Gardai were there also.


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    #3333
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Jofspring wrote: »
    Looks like the trucks arrived to clear out the stock last night. Gardai were there also.

    I seen those videos. Surely stock won't make much difference?


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    #3334
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    YFlyer wrote: »
    I seen those videos. Surely stock won't make much difference?
    I feel sorry for the staff, but they need to give up at this stage. They're delusional if they think they're getting a redundancy payment from a company that no longer exists. They are below the list of creditors that are owed money and even they won't get what they're owed once the liquidators have everything settled.


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    #3335
    Jofspring
    Registered Users Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    YFlyer wrote: »
    I seen those videos. Surely stock won't make much difference?

    Isn't there a few million euros worth of stock in there though. Would go a long way towards covering the redundancies.


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    #3336
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Jofspring wrote: »
    Isn't there a few million euros worth of stock in there though. Would go a long way towards covering the redundancies.
    No it wouldn't. That's not how it works. The creditors of Debenhams (UK and Ireland, not just Limerick) will be owed millions (probably hundreds of millions) and they will be well ahead of staff. As it is those creditors will only get a fraction of what they're owed. The liquidators will look after the large creditors first. The list of creditors will also include the likes of utilities, local authorities and local suppliers. All of these will be paid before staff and they will all take a large haircut on what they are owed.

    There won't be money left for redundancies and unfair as it seems to the former staff, that's how liquidation works.


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    #3337
    JamesBond2010
    Registered Users Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭JamesBond2010


    Just to Say lads Halfords is closed indef. It is only open for Online click & collect orders.


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    #3338
    davo2001
    Registered Users Posts: 3,317 ✭✭✭davo2001


    JamesBond2010 wrote: »
    Just to Say lads Halfords is closed indef. It is only open for Online click & collect orders.

    It was open on Sunday?


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    #3339
    JamesBond2010
    Registered Users Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭JamesBond2010


    davo2001 wrote: »
    It was open on Sunday?

    Signs @ the door & outside saying click & collect orders only. & another sign saying store closed until further notice( online system is crap never gives u the right part )


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    #3340
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    JamesBond2010 wrote: »
    Just to Say lads Halfords is closed indef. It is only open for Online click & collect orders.
    If it's open for click and collect, then it's not closed is it?


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    #3341
    Poorside
    Registered Users Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭Poorside


    Should be fully open again within the next week.


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    #3342
    JamesBond2010
    Registered Users Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭JamesBond2010


    Cookiemunster wrote: »
    If it's open for click and collect, then it's not closed is it?


    i trying to explain what was on the door & the doors are locked as well.


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    #3343
    JamesBond2010
    Registered Users Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭JamesBond2010


    Poorside wrote: »
    Should be fully open again within the next week.


    thats good so.


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    #3344
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 24,349 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Poorside wrote: »
    Should be fully open again within the next week.

    They have adds up at the moment for staff so must be looking at opening again


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    #3345
    JamesBond2010
    Registered Users Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭JamesBond2010


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    They have adds up at the moment for staff so must be looking at opening again


    ya u saw it so like a supervisor.


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    #3346
    JamesBond2010
    Registered Users Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭JamesBond2010


    Aer Lingus got their wish using Covid as an Excuse to close the Snn Base like they wanted to do for ages


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    #3347
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 24,349 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    JamesBond2010 wrote: »
    ya u saw it so like a supervisor.

    They were looking for a couple of different in store sales positions


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    #3348
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 596 ✭ [Deleted User]


    JamesBond2010 wrote: »
    Aer Lingus got their wish using Covid as an Excuse to close the Snn Base like they wanted to do for ages
    > Clare forum


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    #3349
    JamesBond2010
    Registered Users Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭JamesBond2010


    Jeremy Beagle wrote: »
    > Clare forum


    :D:D:D:P:P:P:P O ya. it has an knock on effect though. Aaa Shannon Co limerick Anyway Like Killkee;):D:D:D


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    #3350
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    The Debenhams workers have finally given up on getting blood out of a stone. Although 1/4 of them voted to keep at it :rolleyes: https://www.thejournal.ie/debenhams-ireland-ex-workers-lift-pickets-accept-offer-5442833-May2021/
    The unions should be ashamed of themselves for leading these workers up the garden path. They were never going to get an extra penny out of a company that had been liquidated and could have moved on and found different employment a year ago.


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    #3351
    JamesBond2010
    Registered Users Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭JamesBond2010


    Cookiemunster wrote: »
    The Debenhams workers have finally given up on getting blood out of a stone. Although 1/4 of them voted to keep at it :rolleyes: https://www.thejournal.ie/debenhams-ireland-ex-workers-lift-pickets-accept-offer-5442833-May2021/
    The unions should be ashamed of themselves for leading these workers up the garden path. They were never going to get an extra penny out of a company that had been liquidated and could have moved on and found different employment a year ago.


    ya you are right there, loads of other companies were prob owed hundreds of thousands & they are going to be looking after them 1st. you be extremely lucky then if anything to get anything extra once they are looked after


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    #3352
    fryup
    Registered Users Posts: 18,069 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    Cookiemunster wrote: »
    The unions should be ashamed of themselves for leading these workers up the garden path. They were never going to get an extra penny out of a company that had been liquidated and could have moved on and found different employment a year ago.

    during covid? fat chance


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    #3353
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 596 ✭ [Deleted User]


    fryup wrote: »
    during covid? fat chance

    Anyone with Debenhams on their CV is now blacklisted everywhere


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    #3354
    rathfarnhamlad
    Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭rathfarnhamlad


    Cookiemunster wrote: »
    The Debenhams workers have finally given up on getting blood out of a stone. Although 1/4 of them voted to keep at it :rolleyes: https://www.thejournal.ie/debenhams-ireland-ex-workers-lift-pickets-accept-offer-5442833-May2021/
    The unions should be ashamed of themselves for leading these workers up the garden path. They were never going to get an extra penny out of a company that had been liquidated and could have moved on and found different employment a year ago.

    Well before that even.

    I do feel bad for the employees & I don't know their personal circumstances. I will say this though - it was widely known for a good while that Debenhams was a sinking ship. Had I been working there, I would have gone about looking for another job years ago.

    That's what I would have done myself. Like I said, other people's circumstances may have been different...


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    #3355
    adaminho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,566 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Jeremy Beagle wrote: »
    Anyone with Debenhams on their CV is now blacklisted everywhere

    What a load of bollocks! People with 30 years experience shouldn't get a job because they fought for their rights! Debenhams workers weren't just fighting for a pre-approved redundancy package, they were also looking for a change in the redundancy laws.


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    #3356
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 24,349 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Jeremy Beagle wrote: »
    Anyone with Debenhams on their CV is now blacklisted everywhere


    By who. Wouldnt put me off if I was hiring someone


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    #3357
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 24,349 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    rathfarnhamlad wrote: »
    Well before that even.

    I do feel bad for the employees & I don't know their personal circumstances. I will say this though - it was widely known for a good while that Debenhams was a sinking ship. Had I been working there, I would have gone about looking for another job years ago.

    That's what I would have done myself. Like I said, other people's circumstances may have been different...


    If you had years under your belt you would leave for another job and lose the redundancy ?
    I can understand not wanting to do the picket but crazy to give up on the agreed initial payout


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    #3358
    Poorside
    Registered Users Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭Poorside


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Anyone with Debenhams on their CV is now blacklisted everywhere

    Well that's a load of crap, someone who stood up for what they thought was right, would be a positive if I was interviewing them.


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    #3359
    phog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,713 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Jeremy Beagle wrote: »
    Anyone with Debenhams on their CV is now blacklisted everywhere

    I only know two former workers, both are in new jobs and both attended the blockades.

    I don't know if either listed Debenhams on their CVs but as both were long time employees there then I'd imagine they did otherwise they'd have a large gap in their CV.


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    #3360
    rathfarnhamlad
    Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭rathfarnhamlad


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    If you had years under your belt you would leave for another job and lose the redundancy ?
    I can understand not wanting to do the picket but crazy to give up on the agreed initial payout

    Like I said, I personally would have found another job. I can't speak for others. I do understand your point though.


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    #3361
    Jofspring
    Registered Users Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    A lot of the staff in Debenhams have been there for years, 20+ easily. There was even some Roche's Stores staff still working in there. You would hope with businesses re-opening now that they will all find work. Some are at an age where they will probably find it hard to get back out on the job hunt though.


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