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Rob and Lenny's cross dressing 2018/2019 cyclocross season thread ,

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    #92
    SuperSean
    Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭SuperSean


    Navan didn't have any cash prizes only medals for B race which was perfect.
    I do think with the numbers attending these races lately there should be a more formalised grading system like the road. Get X points to be upgraded to A etc.
    It would also help out with griding for races....


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    #93
    Raam
    Registered Users Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    RobFowl wrote: »
    Getting a bit p*ssed off with some of the ringers entering B races. A champs jersey was at the front in Belfast ans AFAICS the gut who won the B race in Navan not just rode the Ras this year but was 2nd in the A race a couple of years ago.
    Some lads need to cop on to themselves, fooling no one, ruining the racing and also leading to lower fields in the A races where they should be..

    Champ in which discipline?
    I know for the races I helped with, we would go through the list of riders in the B race and move them to A if they were deemed good enough.


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    #94
    RobFowl
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    Raam wrote: »
    RobFowl wrote: »
    Getting a bit p*ssed off with some of the ringers entering B races. A champs jersey was at the front in Belfast ans AFAICS the gut who won the B race in Navan not just rode the Ras this year but was 2nd in the A race a couple of years ago.
    Some lads need to cop on to themselves, fooling no one, ruining the racing and also leading to lower fields in the A races where they should be..

    Champ in which discipline?
    I know for the races I helped with, we would go through the list of riders in the B race and move them to A if they were deemed good enough.

    A cross champ (M50)


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    #95
    RobFowl
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    Weepsie wrote: »
    Do you self declare your category in cyclocross? I imagine you can be a great Cat 1 (A1) racer on road, but brutal on Cyclocross, but given the growing popularity I imagine there should be more formalised grading.

    One lad in the B race in Belfast was an Irish age cross champion in his champions skinsuit, in Navan the B race winner was a lad who rode and finished the ras this year and had a 2nd in the A race in Navan from a year or 2 ago....

    These are not some guys trying it out for the first time.....


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    #96
    ht9zni1gs28crp
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    I might suggest for our next race on the 2nd December that anyone within Laptime range from the B Race be shunted into the A Race. A bit more work but I wonder what the reaction would be from those riders?

    Looking at the A Race laptimes, 6.30ish seems avg across from 10th place down to 15th place.

    Then into the B Race only the top 3 broke 7min laps consistently.


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    #97
    RobFowl
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    Vincenzo Green Vinegar wrote: »
    I might suggest for our next race on the 2nd December that anyone within Laptime range from the B Race be shunted into the A Race. A bit more work but I wonder what the reaction would be from those riders?

    Looking at the A Race laptimes, 6.30ish seems avg across from 10th place down to 15th place.

    Then into the B Race only the top 3 broke 7min laps consistently.


    I am a grumpy and tetchy git so take that into account ;)


    Navan put on a great race and I've tried to make it clear I've no issue, problem or anything with the organisers. Tehy did, have done and continue to run great races on a maturing and fun course.


    I looked at the times down to 10th in the B race and they would all come in around 11th to 15th if they kept up the same pace for an extra lap. I think the B race winner was taking the p*ss entering as he's been 2nd in the A race in 2016 and has a ranking on Procyclingstats from the Ras and Ras Mumhan this year. Thats not the organisers issue, thats the rider's fault completely.



    With the numbers I think it's time for the Off road commission to look at some form of ranking in the future. Some riders starting cross should def be allowed ride and win B races but once you get to and above a certain standard sheer pride or common decency at the very least should have them enter the race they should be in.


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    #98
    Raam
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    RobFowl wrote: »
    I am a grumpy and tetchy git so take that into account ;)

    May I interest you in an upgrade to the A race, sir?


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    #99
    RobFowl
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    Raam wrote: »
    May I interest you in an upgrade to the A race, sir?


    Last in one is much the same as last in the other ;)


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    #100
    Brendan Hennessy
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭Brendan Hennessy


    RobFowl wrote: »
    I am a grumpy and tetchy git so take that into account ;)

    Rob, I'm hoping the dedicated musings of a certified B rider might cheer you up. A timely reminder of the Burren CX race this Sunday in Ennis in the sunshine.

    http://www.oldvelos.com/a-result-that-matters-burren-racing-teams-ennis-cx-race/

    Enjoy

    Bren


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    #101
    lizzylad84
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    Oldcastle cx for next tomorrow. First open race of this season.


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    #102
    lizzylad84
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    Great racing in oldcastle. First of 4 races the club are promoting. 10euro per race. Where would you get it


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    #103
    calistro
    Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭calistro


    lizzylad84 wrote: »
    Great racing in oldcastle. First of 4 races the club are promoting. 10euro per race. Where would you get it

    Glad you enjoyed it! We're trying to keep the entry low to encourage people to get into the sport. We're not charging anything for kid's & youth races for the same reason.
    It mean's doing our own timing & a league format where prizes are given at the end of the league for each category instead of each race, but you get to race on a good course (I think) and tea/coffee and the odd cake for your €10 so can't be bad.

    What did you think of the course? Any feedback, good, bad or indifferent is welcome!


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    #104
    lizzylad84
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    Great coarse. Bit of everything. Excellent value


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    #105
    koutoubia
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    My 16 year old rode his first cx race today in Firhouse. Its actually only his second time on the cx bike.
    He stuck it out for the whole race and after the first two laps or so he settled in and started to really enjoy it. His lack of fitness started to catch up with him on the last lap but stayed in for the whole race.
    When he gets some fitness and more confidence he will do well.
    A big thanks is owed to epicmtb for a great event and to the young Swords lad who showed him the ropes on the practice lap.
    I think CX has a new convert!

    Here is a pic of him chasing The Tax Man!
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-8ng4cjgi2OUJQk1xTb-h8LaJ3Eh8P0Q/view?usp=sharing


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    #106
    The tax man
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    koutoubia wrote: »
    My 16 year old rode his first cx race today in Firhouse. Its actually only his second time on the cx bike.
    He stuck it out for the whole race and after the first two laps or so he settled in and started to really enjoy it. His lack of fitness started to catch up with him on the last lap but stayed in for the whole race.
    When he gets some fitness and more confidence he will do well.
    A big thanks is owed to epicmtb for a great event and to the young Swords lad who showed him the ropes on the practice lap.
    I think CX has a new convert!


    Nice one. He was doing lap times pretty much the same as mine and I'm at it years.:confused:
    Did you give me a shout or two during the race? Heard someone calling my name but didn't recognise the voice.


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    #107
    Tenzor07
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    Results from today's EPIC MTB cross race in Firhouse, https://goo.gl/uXKzNE

    Some great racing including seeing Robin Seymour blast along the course with no front tyre after a tub rolled!


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    #108
    koutoubia
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    The tax man wrote: »
    Nice one. He was doing lap times pretty much the same as mine and I'm at it years.:confused:
    Did you give me a shout or two during the race? Heard someone calling my name but didn't recognise the voice.
    Yeah was giving you a bit of encouragement for sure!


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    #109
    The tax man
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    koutoubia wrote: »
    Yeah was giving you a bit of encouragement for sure!


    Thanks. Your vision tends to be fixed on the patch of ground in front of your wheel for most of the race. Don't get a chance to see who's shouting encouragement or abuse at me, but I hear it all.:D


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    #110
    daragh_
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    Best time ever on that course for my bike. Because I wasn't riding it!:cool:


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    #111
    RobFowl
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    Young Koutobia rode very well, fun course and challanging when you pushed hard. Great day for it too.


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    #112
    lukegjpotter
    Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭lukegjpotter


    Scott Orwell Wheelers are delighted to run our inaugural CycloCross Race in GAP Glencullen on Sunday November 11th 2018.
    The A-Race and Women’s Race will contribute towards the gridding points for the Leinster and National CX Champs.

    Announcement Article: Scott Orwell Wheelers CycloCross Race 2018
    Facebook Event: Scott Orwell Wheelers CycloCross Race 2018
    Tweet: by @Orwell_Wheelers


    Although the date is pending currently CI Approval, let's just say, leave a GAP in your calendar for November 11th.


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    #113
    Gerry
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    Sounds good! I remember the last race in glencullen, was brilliant fun negotiating the bunkers.. wonder if any left.


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    #114
    detones
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    Well done to Koutobia Junior!! Impressive first race.

    Great news by Orwell. For me Glencullen is the toughest cyclocross circuit I've done. If the set up is like the Nationals it will be a Killer to even get around never mind race. River Valley in swords when they did it was a close second in terms of toughness. Stormount up North also a good test.

    Any other suggestions on toughest Cyclocross race circuit in Ireland?


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    #115
    SuperSean
    Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭SuperSean


    detones wrote: »

    For me Glencullen is the toughest cyclocross circuit I've done.

    Yeah, I'm with you on this one. So much much back and forth up the hill ugggggh


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    #116
    RobFowl
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    detones wrote: »
    Well done to Koutobia Junior!! Impressive first race.

    Great news by Orwell. For me Glencullen is the toughest cyclocross circuit I've done. If the set up is like the Nationals it will be a Killer to even get around never mind race. River Valley in swords when they did it was a close second in terms of toughness. Stormount up North also a good test.

    Any other suggestions on toughest Cyclocross race circuit in Ireland?


    There was one on Bray head a few years back, absolute killer. River valley very very tough esp when muddy.


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    #117
    py
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    This looks a bit mental


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    #118
    detones
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    py wrote: »
    This looks a bit mental

    Rob and I can testify it sure was mental ;-)


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    #119
    lizzylad84
    Registered Users Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭lizzylad84


    Bucket list stuff


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    #120
    calistro
    Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭calistro


    Evening all, Oldcastle CC are holding an open CX race this Sunday 4th Nov.

    As there was no other CX race on in Leinster and we were already running our local league we decided to open the race to all. B race had good numbers entered but ladies & A race are too low at the minute to run as separate races so posting here to get the word out.

    Entry is only €10 pay on the day and kids & youth race for free also. Good chance to race what will essentially be very similar to the Leinster Champs course.

    Pre-reg link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdvDs2N7RgiY__mtXuGgIA_ArzbszqW1LSK0ehiOTZVZ62VAA/viewform?usp=sf_link


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    #121
    25sean
    Registered Users Posts: 987 ✭✭✭25sean


    I'll be there.. gotta get racing in!


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