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Stores Closing in Sligo **mod warning post #720**

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  • #32
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Big_Mac wrote: »
    Looks like Currys might be going. Rumor is that they can't compete with the Currys in the north with the exchange rate, prices in general and the proximity of the border.

    While it is affecting them (how could it not with the exchange rate being so favourable), there is still a lot of people buying this side of the border.


  • #33
    Quackles
    Registered Users Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Quackles


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    While it is affecting them (how could it not with the exchange rate being so favourable), there is still a lot of people buying this side of the border.

    Yup - I haven't been to Enniskillen in 2 months, just couldn't handle the crowds, I'd rather pay a bit extra and keep my sanity. I've spoken to a large number of like minded individuals in that respect!


  • #34
    redarmyblues
    Registered Users Posts: 972 ✭✭✭redarmyblues


    The staff in Bistro Bianconni have been told that they may have no jobs in the new year, due to a dispute over the lease.

    Chartbusters staff are increasingly nervous as speculation mounts about the companies future.

    A prominent and long established firm of solicitors had problems paying staff their Christmas salaries.

    Its not just shops folks.


  • #35
    EuskalHerria
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭EuskalHerria


    redarmyblues wrote: »

    Chartbusters staff are increasingly nervous as speculation mounts about the companies future.

    Suprised it has lasted this long tbh?


  • #36
    Hagar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    From an observer's perspective it looks like the shoopers of Sligo have closed all the shops in Sligo by shopping in Enniskillen and are now lamenting the fact and looking for someone to blame. Enjoy your cheap beer, share one with an un-employed neighbour.

    I fear we are going to see this same tale right across border towns before long.


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  • #37
    Xiney
    Registered Users Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    I don't think the people of Sligo are looking for someone to blame - they already blame the prices in the republic for being too high to make it worth their while to support their town.

    With Enniskillen so near, it'd be pure lunacy to do any substantial amount of shopping in Sligo. Mr Xiney and I don't even drive, and even then we made our way up north because you'd have to be crazy to pay what they want in Sligo when taking a bus up north is so easy and saves so much money.


  • #38
    darealtulip
    Registered Users Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭darealtulip


    I did our shopping for a long time in enniskillen and not because it was cheaper but because you have more choice and everything is there unlike the sligo branches of tesco, dunnes and lidl and fresh, we had overdate stuff in the sligo branches a lot. I always found sligo to be dearer then galway and even dublin. I think the people of sligo brought this uppon their self and they know it.


  • #39
    Essexboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Essexboy


    Zavvi have been put into administration in the UK so the Sligo store seems likely to close soon.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/dec/24/zavvi-administration-jobs


  • #40
    jimmmy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,539 ✭✭✭jimmmy


    Hagar wrote: »
    From an observer's perspective it looks like the shoopers of Sligo have closed all the shops in Sligo by shopping in Enniskillen and are now lamenting the fact and looking for someone to blame. Enjoy your cheap beer, share one with an un-employed neighbour.

    I fear we are going to see this same tale right across border towns before long.

    Excellent post, but its not just the shoppers fault - its the authorities who set the vat rates, the irish minumum wage and price of living etc.


  • #41
    elshambo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭elshambo


    jimmmy wrote: »
    Excellent post, but its not just the shoppers fault - its the authorities who set the vat rates, the irish minumum wage and price of living etc.

    about 2.5% difference in VAT, even in England they reckon that the vat cut was a waste of time and the money would have been better spent on a min wage tax cut.

    Its not just the minimum wage!
    Nothing wrong with the minimum wage in relation to every other wage in the country when compared to Britain

    Min wage doesnt drive inflation of prices, it gets carried by them
    Max wages and Average wages drive that and the cost of living

    Blaming all and sundry on Min wage is just a cheap political trick that we all swallow at one time or another.

    That being said
    The level of wages (all wages) in the south when compared to the north is the reason for the price differences

    If people earn in the south and spend in the north they will put shops and eventually themselves (however much they earn) out of business!

    We earn more therefore pay more!?
    Price of living is wages!

    As for Zavvi going, that lot (the parent company) will try to blame there problems on the global slow down but they were basically in trouble from the day they changed from Virgin, a rebrand and a lick of paint doesnt fix an ailing business

    Its a shame because they shop in sligo is a nice shop and all (+sound staff) but CD/DVD sales are now an interent business (and supermarkets for the chart stuff)

    Specialist shops are soon to be a thing of the past im afraid.

    Anyone know there last day? there will probably be an everything must go sale


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  • #42
    magnumlady
    Registered Users Posts: 3,657 ✭✭✭magnumlady


    Quackles wrote: »
    Yup - I haven't been to Enniskillen in 2 months, just couldn't handle the crowds, I'd rather pay a bit extra and keep my sanity. I've spoken to a large number of like minded individuals in that respect!

    Same here, I was there at the end of October and it was just mad, so I've stayed in Sligo since.

    Btw where is Chartbusters in Sligo?:confused:


  • #43
    SligoBrewer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭SligoBrewer


    magnumlady wrote: »
    Same here, I was there at the end of October and it was just mad, so I've stayed in Sligo since.

    Btw where is Chartbusters in Sligo?:confused:
    Video City:p


  • #44
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,526 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    It's said to see stores closing in Sligo alright.
    I trained as a nurse in Cregg House, out towards Rosses Point back in 90 to 93 and remember that there wasn't that much really in big retail around the town, from 94 onwards Sligo made great strides in attracting the big names, both domestic and UK, pity to see things regressing slightly, it's a fantastic place, there in the north west.


  • #45
    sailorfoley
    Registered Users Posts: 151 ✭✭sailorfoley


    from reading news reports in the UK it appears that zavvi ireland is unaffected for the moment - see this Guardian report

    That maybe true as surely, in Ireland, stock is located within the republic and not via woolworths in the uk?


  • #46
    darealtulip
    Registered Users Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭darealtulip


    jimmmy wrote: »
    Excellent post, but its not just the shoppers fault - its the authorities who set the vat rates, the irish minumum wage and price of living etc.

    Its not the goverments fault that the sterling is worthless!!


  • #47
    Jabby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 242 ✭✭Jabby


    Xiney wrote: »
    I don't think the people of Sligo are looking for someone to blame - they already blame the prices in the republic for being too high to make it worth their while to support their town.

    With Enniskillen so near, it'd be pure lunacy to do any substantial amount of shopping in Sligo. Mr Xiney and I don't even drive, and even then we made our way up north because you'd have to be crazy to pay what they want in Sligo when taking a bus up north is so easy and saves so much money.


    What a selfish and short sighted post if you don't mind me saying so.


    1. How long does it take you to go up and back there?

    2. How much does your petrol/diesel/bus fare cost?

    3. How much is each hour worth to you? €10, €15, €20, €25...more?

    Calculate all of this and then ask yourself the question... Is this really worth it at the end of the day?

    I don't agree with the whole 'galloping up north'...not one little bit.
    If everyone took this point of view and run up to Enniskillen to save a few lousy pence, this time next year we would be looking at a Sligo and other border centres possibly resembling ghost towns with decent people out of jobs.... all for the sake of what?...The 'I'm all right Jacks and F**k the rest of you and your jobs' brigade who don't for one minute give a tu'penny damn about the longer term implications of their selfish trips up north.

    This is a time when we should all try to bite the bullet for one year even. By supporting your local traders, we will be helping to save valuable jobs. I don't have a business or anything like that in Sligo and have no vested interest but I can see the long term damage that will be done for ALL of us if this trend continues.

    For God's sake, resist the temptation of very short term savings and shop locally.
    A lot of our northern cousins by the way, wouldn't dream of spending a penny down here even in the good times. Some have never even been down here on a diesel or petrol run!

    Happy Christmas.
    rgds,
    Jabby.


  • #48
    Xiney
    Registered Users Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    I'm sorry but from my perspective, I'm already having to bite the bullet because there aren't any jobs in this country for me.

    So I'll save money where I can - and if it's worth my while going up north so be it. Bus fare is 17 euro if I remember correctly - yet if I buy something for 50 pound chances are I'm saving about 25 euro off what I'd pay for it here. If you buy something for 500 pound, that's a saving of 250 euro and it's no longer something to sneeze at when there's a recession on and everyone is feeling the pinch.


    What jobs would I really be saving here? Some minimum wage pure crap **** junk jobs that the people in them are overqualified but can't get anything else? screw that - the government in this country should have enticed REAL companies to hire Irish people rather than the likes of Tesco.


  • #49
    Culchie
    Registered Users Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭Culchie


    Xiney wrote: »


    What jobs would I really be saving here? Some minimum wage pure crap **** junk jobs that the people in them are overqualified but can't get anything else? screw that - the government in this country should have enticed REAL companies to hire Irish people rather than the likes of Tesco.

    I employ 4 local lads all highy educated and well paid. Businesses going bust in Sligo is good for no-one and will have a knock on affect for every other business in the area.
    I think you are out of line


  • #50
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Xiney wrote: »
    What jobs would I really be saving here? Some minimum wage pure crap **** junk jobs that the people in them are overqualified but can't get anything else? screw that - the government in this country should have enticed REAL companies to hire Irish people rather than the likes of Tesco.

    A job is a job. Someone is better off in a minimum wage job than unemployed. The country itself will be better off as well. Just because those over-qualified people aren't in minimum wage jobs doesn't mean they will automatically get a better paying job that suits their qualification.

    Saying that I don't care if anyone goes north for their shopping.


  • #51
    Xiney
    Registered Users Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    This recession is going to suck. There's no question about that - but it will hopefully also serve as a wakeup call. If not for the government, then for the voters.

    And until then, I'm not wasting money to be patriotic to a country that has done very little to make me feel welcome.


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  • #52
    Culchie
    Registered Users Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭Culchie


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    A job is a job. Someone is better off in a minimum wage job than unemployed. The country itself will be better off as well. Just because those over-qualified people aren't in minimum wage jobs doesn't mean they will automatically get a better paying job that suits their qualification.

    Saying that I don't care if anyone goes north for their shopping.

    Half the bloody problem is the minimum wage, it's way too high, compare it to te rest of the world. It drove inflation up.

    The other point about a job, other than the money, is that it benefits the person from a self fulfillment/ego/confidence point of view.

    If Xiney really wants to see Sligo develop into a Burnley/Blackburn/Salford type of economic deprivation and have the social devastation that ensues, then I'm pretty disappointed in that attitude.


  • #53
    Xiney
    Registered Users Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    If the minimum wage were to go down, it's not like the price of things would as well - rent would be the same, petrol would be the same, just people earning minimum wage would be less able to afford it.

    And if I'm only going to be earning minimum wage, you better feckin' believe that I'm not spending extra out of it out of some misplaced duty to the country that won't give me a real job...

    (yes, I'm bitter. But trust me, so'd you be in my shoes.)


  • #54
    Jabby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 242 ✭✭Jabby


    Xiney wrote: »
    This is exactly what I'm talking about. ME,ME and more ME! What it should be is WE, US, ALL OF US and what we can do as a nation to get out of this mess.

    2009 is going to be a dreadful year financially for not only you but lots of people including myself perhaps. Look at the bigger picture for God's sake.

    I can't see where Tesco come into all of this??? Isn't there Tescos and their like in every country in the world employing local people. Maybe not rocket scientists but decent people who are willing to do this type of work until something better comes along.

    That said, I would like to wish you a Happy New Year Xiney. Hope things improve for you soon.

    rgds
    Jabby


  • #55
    Jabby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 242 ✭✭Jabby


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »

    Saying that I don't care if anyone goes north for their shopping.


    Great contribution AC! Is this the best you can come up with??


  • #56
    elshambo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭elshambo


    Culchie wrote: »
    Half the bloody problem is the minimum wage, it's way too high, compare it to te rest of the world. It drove inflation up.

    did it? :rolleyes:

    What about the average wage?
    What about the highest wage?

    The minimum wage is carried by inflation, it doesnt drive it, unless most of us earn that sum (i dont)

    By your logic:
    So if the poor get paid less
    the rich and middle get paid the same everything would be alright!?

    Most of the cost is in higher paid jobs/producing stuff
    Most of the money is in higher paid jobs
    ALL of the mistakes/bad investments/OVERSEAS PROPERTY(:D) were made by people in higher paid jobs but according to you the poor are to blame?
    How?

    Just Easy political outs!!!

    WHO exactly spends the majority of their wages anyway
    The poor, anything they earn they spend!


    All wages in this country are too high therefore the min wage has to keep pace

    wages are to high becasue of cost of living
    cost of living too high because of wages

    Why, because we live in a country where people sell their vote to the highest bidder

    Thread on here ages ago, people complaining about cancer services, i said anyone who ever voted FF voted for the closure's by voting for a tax breaks

    Thread died a death for ages:eek::eek::eek:

    Shopping in the north is stupid in the long term
    blaming the minimum wage will fix nothing in the long term
    *voting for FF will fix nothing EVER
    FF are short term Im alright jack politices of the worsed kind and everyone who votes for them knows that!

    *I dont/never have belonged to any political party


  • #57
    Amalgam
    Registered Users Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    Jabby, no one has reinforced the ME ME ME Feck the rest of you attitude more than the politicians.. The amount of offal that pours out every week, dodgy this, dodgy that.. nudge nudge, wink wink, pat on the back, smarm all over. Great example to look up to eh.


  • #58
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Jabby wrote: »
    Great contribution AC! Is this the best you can come up with??

    Sorry I don't quite understand. What exactly do you mean by the best you can come up with. It's my opinion. I don't believe people should be chastised because they choose to save a few quid. It's more or less the same as shopping online or shopping at one of the big multi-nationals instead of shopping at an independent local store.


  • #59
    Jabby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 242 ✭✭Jabby


    "Saying that I don't care if anyone goes north for their shopping"



    It just sounds remarkably like the answer my 8 year old came up with over dinner earlier on when the subject was discussed.


  • #60
    Amalgam
    Registered Users Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    Sorry I don't quite understand. What exactly do you mean by the best you can come up with. It's my opinion. I don't believe people should be chastised because they choose to save a few quid. It's more or less the same as shopping online or shopping at one of the big multi-nationals instead of shopping at an independent local store.

    You're buying goods up North that have been made abroad, as opposed to buying goods down South, that have been made abroad. :)


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  • #61
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Jabby wrote: »
    "Saying that I don't care if anyone goes north for their shopping"



    It just sounds remarkably like the answer my 8 year old came up with over dinner earlier on when the subject was discussed.
    So is it my opinion or the way I expressed my opinion that you had a problem with?


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