Connacht Team Talk Thread V - The Friend Zone

Buer · 03-06-2020 10:16am

thomond2006 wrote: »

Does anyone know if Lucas is Irish eligible? If so then I could see a deal somewhere happening but as Buer says it's more likely the IRFU will move a chess piece already under contract...

I doubt it. He's the youngest of 4 professional rugby playing brothers. If they were Irish qualified, I'm sure we'd have seen it raised before now.

the perfect ten · 03-06-2020 10:30am

connachta wrote: »

Shane O'Leary signed in Rouen (Prod2 if there's no relegation)

Robin Copeland going to Angouleme and Peter Lydon also going to Rouen.

connachta · 03-06-2020 10:46am

the perfect ten wrote: »

Robin Copeland going to Angouleme and Peter Lydon also going to Rouen.

Yeah, saw it, Lydon as experienced 15/10 would have been ideal

thomond2006 · 03-06-2020 11:07am

Some Like It TOH

Buer wrote: »

The other option would be to move one of the young Munster outhalves to Connacht.

Whisht, Buer.

Bazzo · 03-06-2020 11:44am

Mul, it's over

Aly Muldowney not giving a very praiseworthy review of his start at Connacht. Has been fairly damning of management in the past also.

https://twitter.com/TheLooseH/status/1268129681376763905?s=19

Edit: just to clarify, he's been critical of certain aspects of management in the past. Not all of it.

b.gud · 03-06-2020 12:06pm

Bazzo wrote: »

Aly Muldowney not giving a very praiseworthy review of his start at Connacht. Has been fairly damning of management in the past also.

https://twitter.com/TheLooseH/status/1268129681376763905?s=19

Edit: just to clarify, he's been critical of certain aspects of management in the past. Not all of it.

Haven't had a chance to listen to it yet but here is a soundcloud link for anyone who wants to listen https://soundcloud.com/thelooseh/ep-15-aly-muldowney

Bazzo · 03-06-2020 12:08pm

Mul, it's over

b.gud wrote: »

Haven't had a chance to listen to it yet but here is a soundcloud link for anyone who wants to listen https://soundcloud.com/thelooseh/ep-15-aly-muldowney

Yeah should have linked that sorry. He did also say he and his family absolutely loved Galway and didn't want to leave, and that his stretch at Connacht was probably his favourite time at a club.

connachta · 03-06-2020 12:17pm

https://www.connachtrugby.ie/six-connacht-academy-players-sign-first-pro-contracts/

As expected (except maybe Duggan who didn't play much for now)

ClanofLams · 03-06-2020 12:21pm

Mul, it's over

To be honest hard to be too optimistic imo about immediate future with squad. Hopefully it works out in 2-3 years that some of the younger players and by extension, Connacht, really benefit from opportunities they might not have got in ordinary times.

connachta · 03-06-2020 12:27pm

Masterson, Sullivan, and Dean are 22 or close, so "normal age" let's say in their position to be promoted.

will be more difficult for Duggan and Murray physically..

Reilly is 4th choice and I doubt both Marms and Blade (maybe none), will be often stuck with Ireland, so we'll be ok there

No SOB 2.0, it's to be noticed..

Lucas44 · 03-06-2020 12:41pm

connachta wrote: »

Masterson, Sullivan, and Dean are 22 or close, so "normal age" let's say in their position to be promoted.

will be more difficult for Duggan and Murray physically..

Reilly is 4th choice and I doubt both Marms and Blade (maybe none), will be often stuck with Ireland, so we'll be ok there

No SOB 2.0, it's to be noticed..

Duggan is the same age as Masterson, dean and Sullivan.... Murray the only one on a 1 year dev with 1 year pro guaranteed the year after

realhorrorshow · 03-06-2020 12:42pm

Loosehead

Denis Buckley (30) - Signed 2 year contract in 2019
Matthew Burke (23) - Signed contract in 2019
Jordan Duggan (22) - Signed contract in 2020
Paddy McAllister (31) - Signed contract in 2019

Tighthead

Jack Aungier (21) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
Finlay Bealham (29) - Signed 2 year contract in 2019
Conor Kenny (24) - Signed 1 year contract in 2020
Dominic Robertson-McCoy (26) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

Hooker

Shane Delahunt (26) - Signed 1 year contract in 2020
Dave Heffernan (29) - Signed contract in 2019
Jonny Murphy (28) - Signed contract in 2018

Declan Adamson (21) - Academy year 1
Dylan Tierney-Martin (21) - Academy year 2

Lock

Ultan Dillane (26) - Signed 2 year contract in 2019
Oisin Dowling (23) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
Cillian Gallagher (23) - Signed contract in 2018
Niall Murray (20) - Signed contract in 2020
Quinn Roux (29) - Signed 2 year contract in 2019
Gavin Thornbury (26) - Signed 2 year contract in 2019

Back row

Paul Boyle (23) - Signed 2 year contract in 2019
Jarrad Butler (29) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
Eoghan Masterson (27) - Signed 2 year contract in 2018
Sean Masterson (22) - Signed contract in 2020
Sean O'Brien (25) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
Conor Oliver (24) - Signed 1 year contract in 2020

Joshua Dunne (20) - Academy year 2
Oisin McCormack (19) - Academy year 1
Mikey Wilson (23) - Academy year 2

Scrumhalf

Caolin Blade (26) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
Stephen Kerins (24) - Signed contract in 2019
Kieran Marmion (28) - Signed 3 year contract in 2020
Colm Reilly (21) - Signed contract in 2020

Outhalf

Jack Carty (28) - Signed 2 year contract in 2019
Conor Dean (22) - Signed contract in 2020
Conor Fitzgerald (22) - Signed contract in 2019

Luke Carty (22) - Academy year 3

Centre

Bundee Aki (28) - Signed 3 year central contract in 2020
Sammy Arnold (24) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
Tom Daly (27) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
Tom Farrell (26) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
Peter Robb (26) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

Shane Jennings (19) - Academy year 1
Sean O'Brien (22) - Academy year 2

Back 3

Stephen Fitzgerald (24) - Signed contract in 2019
Matt Healy (31) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
Tiernan O'Halloran (29) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020
John Porch (26) - Signed contract in 2019
Peter Sullivan (22) - Signed contract in 2020

Colm de Buitléar (22) - Academy year 3
Hugh Lane (21) - Academy year 1
Oran McNulty (20) - Academy year 2

In: Jordan Duggan (Academy),Jack Aungier (Leinster), Oisin Dowling (Leinster), Niall Murray (Academy), Sean Masterson (Academy), Conor Oliver (Munster), Colm Reilly (Academy), Conor Dean (Academy), Sammy Arnold (Munster), Peter Sullivan (Academy)
Out: Peter Mccabe, Rory Burke, Tom McCartney (Retiring), Joe Maksimyw, Robin Copeland (Soyaux Angouleme), Colby Fainga'a (Lyon), Eoin McKeon, Angus Lloyd (Retiring), Dave Horwitz, Kyle Godwin, Niyi Adeolokun, Darragh Leader

Wegians89 · 03-06-2020 12:44pm

The Friend Zone

Faingaa - Oliver
Copeland - Sean Masterson
Horwitz - Dean
Godwin - Arnold
Burke - Aungier
Maksymiw - Murray
Leader - x
McCartney - x
Niyi - Sullivan
Mckeon - dowling
Lloyd - Reilly
McCabe - Duggan

b.gud · 03-06-2020 12:47pm

Anyone know what's the story with Colm de Buitléar? He wasn't one of the 6 promoted but I think this should have been his last season in the academy. Is he being let go?

realhorrorshow · 03-06-2020 12:47pm

Still awaiting announcements on Jonny Murphy, Cillian Gallagher, Eoghan Masterson, Luke Carty, and Colm de Buitléar.

connachta · 03-06-2020 12:50pm

connachta · 03-06-2020 1:04pm

Lucas44 wrote: »

Duggan is the same age as Masterson, dean and Sullivan.... Murray the only one on a 1 year dev with 1 year pro guaranteed the year after

That's why I talked about position
Far more common for a back-line or back-row player to step up at this age, than for locks and props (even if there's exception due to specific athletism)

Wegians89 · 03-06-2020 1:04pm

The Friend Zone

b.gud wrote: »

Anyone know what's the story with Colm de Buitléar? He wasn't one of the 6 promoted but I think this should have been his last season in the academy. Is he being let go?

Probably doing another year in the academy, given he was injured for the year

connachta · 03-06-2020 1:11pm

Wegians89 wrote: »

Faingaa - Oliver
Copeland - Sean Masterson
Horwitz - Dean
Godwin - Arnold
Burke - Aungier
Maksymiw - Murray
Leader - x
McCartney - x
Niyi - Sullivan
Mckeon - dowling
Lloyd - Reilly
McCabe - Duggan

In the end it's just about the Wootton and Wiese moves which still don't come despite being rumoured...

Them or someone else, we can't do without these n°8 and utility back...
Tierney Martin would cover 4th choice hooker I guess

Scottmactom · 03-06-2020 1:22pm

Connacht Academy next season?

Charlie Ward(LH Prop) - u21
Declan Adamson(Hooker) - u22
Dylan Tierney Martin(Hooker) - u22
Darragh Murray(Lock) - u20
Cian Prendergast(Lock-Backrow) - u21
Josh Dunne(Backrow) - u21
Diarmuid McCormack(Backrow) - u20
Oisin McCormack(Backrow) - u20
Hubert Costello(Backrow) - u20
Donnacha Byrne(Backrow) - u20
Cathal Forde(Outhalf) - u20
Sean O'Brien(Centre) - u22
Shane Jennings(Centre) - u20
Conor Hayes(Back Three) - u22
Hugh Lane(Back Three) - u22
Oran McNulty(Back Three) - u21

connachta · 03-06-2020 1:30pm

LOL we won't have that many back-rows in the Academy:pac:
Lane is supposed to be released I thought

Scottmactom wrote: »

Connacht Academy next season?

Declan Adamson(Hooker)
Dylan Tierney Martin(Hooker)
Darragh Murray(Lock)
Cian Prendergast(Lock-Backrow)
Josh Dunne(Backrow)
Diarmuid McCormack(Backrow)
Oisin McCormack(Backrow)
Hubert Costello(Backrow)
Donnacha Byrne(Backrow)
Cathal Forde(Outhalf)
Sean O'Brien(Centre)
Shane Jennings(Centre)
Conor Hayes(Back Three)
Hugh Lane(Back Three)
Oran McNulty(Back Three)

FACECUTTR · 03-06-2020 1:33pm

connachta wrote: »

LOL we won't have that many back-rows in the Academy:pac:
Lane is supposed to be released I thought

Not really nice to laugh at somebody's post considering some of tripe you come up with.

Scottmactom · 03-06-2020 1:40pm

Oisin McCormack(Garbally), Diarmuid McCormack(Corinthians-Clongowes) and Donnacha Byrne(Sligo) are all definitely going to be there, as homegrown backrows.

One would assume Josh Dunne(Exile) will stick around but he may not.

So then it's just really Hubert Costello(Corinthians), who may or may not.. I think he will get in there as he is the 4th of the talented homegrown backrows from next years 20's.

realhorrorshow · 03-06-2020 1:47pm

Scottmactom wrote: »

Connacht Academy next season?

Declan Adamson(Hooker) - u22
Dylan Tierney Martin(Hooker) - u22
Darragh Murray(Lock) - u20
Cian Prendergast(Lock-Backrow) - u21
Josh Dunne(Backrow) - u21
Diarmuid McCormack(Backrow) - u20
Oisin McCormack(Backrow) - u20
Hubert Costello(Backrow) - u20
Donnacha Byrne(Backrow) - u20
Cathal Forde(Outhalf) - u20
Sean O'Brien(Centre) - u22
Shane Jennings(Centre) - u20
Conor Hayes(Back Three) - u22
Hugh Lane(Back Three) - u22
Oran McNulty(Back Three) - u21

I'd be surprised if we don't try bring in one of the props from this years Irish u20s. I also would have thought Culliton and Kilgallen at least have a chance, I think Culliton could be quite good. Costello maybe. If we do the same as last year and bring in our best u19s then maybe Kolo Kiripati, altough I think McCormack and Jennings were the exception rather than the rule.

connachta · 03-06-2020 1:48pm

FACECUTTR wrote: »

Not really nice to laugh at somebody's post considering some of tripe you come up with.

i wasn't laughing at him, not at all, just too many backrows

Scottmactom · 03-06-2020 1:49pm

realhorrorshow wrote: »

I'd be surprised if we don't try bring in one of the props from this years Irish u20s. I also would have thought Culliton and Kilgallen at least have a chance, I think Culliton could be quite good. Costello maybe. Darragh Murray will surely be brought in. If we do the same as last year and bring in our best u18s then maybe Kolo Kiripati, altough I think McCormack and Jennings were the exception rather than the rule.

McCormack and Jennings had to be kept away from Galway GAA, they managed to do that with academy offers. Lost Kilcommins though it seems.

Yeah i'd expect a irish u20 prop who didn't make leinster academy to come west. Noonan most likely.

Forgot about Kilgallen, i'd expect he'd get a chance.

Eoin DeBuitlear at hooker could come in, Kiripati not yet.

FACECUTTR · 03-06-2020 1:53pm

connachta wrote: »

i wasn't laughing at him, not at all, just too many backrows

Dont mind me. Just a bit frustrated sitting in the Coombe carpark waiting for the boss lady to have a cesarean.

b.gud · 03-06-2020 2:06pm

FACECUTTR wrote: »

Dont mind me. Just a bit frustrated sitting in the Coombe carpark waiting for the boss lady to have a cesarean.

I guess that means it's too late to make surer the little one is born the right side of the Shannon

PS congrats and best of luck

FACECUTTR · 03-06-2020 2:11pm

b.gud wrote: »

I guess that means it's too late to make surer the little one is born the right side of the Shannon

PS congrats and best of luck

Thanks very much.

thomond2006 · 03-06-2020 2:24pm

Some Like It TOH

Hope it all goes well FACECUTTR and Mrs. FACECUTTR.

Connacht Team Talk Thread V - The Friend Zone

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