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Convective/Thunderstorm Discussion 2013/14

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Could see some thundershowers popping up in the northwest this afternoon/evening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    The Met Office has an early warning out for thunderstorms for Tuesday/Wednesday.

    With Wales and SW England at risk there's a chance we could get some imports or storms of our own. Too far out to look at details though.


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    Chief Forecaster's Assessment

    An area of low pressure is expected to increasingly interact with the plume of hot, humid air resident across parts of southern Britain. Whilst preceding days will have seen only isolated thunderstorms, the developing set-up on Tuesday and Wednesday, provides the ingredients for more widespread and energetic storms. Large rainfall totals, falling in short periods and onto hard-baked ground, may lead to flooding locally, with hail a possibility.

    As is common in such situations, not everywhere will catch the heaviest of the storms, and a few places may well escape altogether. The Alert intentionally covers a broad area at present, to cater for the uncertainties in the thundery focus, as signposted by various available computer model output. As such, updates to the area are highly likely in the coming days.
    Issued at - 20 Jul 2013, 11:51
    Valid from - 23 Jul 2013, 00:00
    Valid to - 24 Jul 2013, 23:59

    During this period, the risk of thunderstorms or longer spells of thundery rain, increases from the southwest. The main focus for severe weather will probably be clear of southwestern areas by the start of Wednesday, when the peak risk is still moving into parts of northern England.

    The public should be aware of the risk of localised disruption to travel, and more generally to summer holiday activities.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    Some mega clouds building here in south east Mayo. Coming up from galway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭eastmayo


    Yes the same here near knock airport.would expect some storms later...hopefully anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Yeah convection has really kicked off in the last hour.

    http://www.sat24.com/en/gb


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    Completely cloud covered here now


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,069 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    eastmayo wrote: »
    Yes the same here near knock airport.would expect some storms later...hopefully anyway.

    don't worry you've got mary to protect you


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    12Z GFS is downgrading our thunderstorm potential for Monday/Tuesday.

    Everything is getting shifted further east : big storms for England and Wales, very little going on here.

    Things can change but the trend is going in the wrong direction (if you like thunderstorms) the nearer we get to the breakdown. Could be epic for the UK though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭eastmayo


    Just few clouds around now.looks.like we wont get our thunderstorm this eve.hopefully tomorrow eve.


  • Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭eastmayo


    I see theres a shower showing up on met eireanns rador in northwest of mayo.lets see what happens.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭torrentum


    12Z GFS is downgrading our thunderstorm potential for Monday/Tuesday.

    Everything is getting shifted further east : big storms for England and Wales, very little going on here.

    Things can change but the trend is going in the wrong direction (if you like thunderstorms) the nearer we get to the breakdown. Could be epic for the UK though.

    Any chance of any activity drifting into leinster? Or eastern counties? I'll be so disappointed if I see nothing :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    torrentum wrote: »
    Any chance of any activity drifting into leinster? Or eastern counties? I'll be so disappointed if I see nothing :(

    Previous runs have hinted at that but the 12Z GFS today doesn't. It's possible, depends how things are oriented on the day, a little too early to say for sure looking unlikely at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    A slight risk for part of Ireland tomorrow on UKASF's forecast for Sunday :

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    Synopsis:

    Blocking persists across the North Sea, but troughing will begin to develop and dig further south from the eastern North Atlantic down towards western Iberia. This places the forward side of the upper trough increasingly over SW Britain through this forecast period, particularly later in the day and overnight, promoting some convective weather opportunities.

    Discussion:
    On the forward side of the approaching upper trough, advection of a high WBPT plume will occur over SW Britain and Ireland. The advance of a shortwave trough from the south will allow destabilisation of this airmass, with the potential for some elevated convection to occur along the plume (ThetaE ridge) axis.

    Ongoing elevated thunderstorms may be present during the first part of the morning, moving northwestwards from the Cherbourg Peninsula towards Cornwall/Devon. Naturally NWP output continues to struggle simulating the depth and coverage of elevated convection, but there is some reasonable inter-model agreement for the remnants at least of elevated thunderstorms to affect the far SW through Sunday morning, although probably weakening all the while. These may also continue to drift towards S/SE Ireland by the afternoon, although here models tend to diverge as to how active (electrically) or widespread such elevated convection will be by this stage. For now we cover some parts of Ireland with a SLGT for this potential, but suggest lower confidence here compared to Devon/Cornwall earlier in the day.

    As the plume axis continues to nudge slowly northwards through the forecast period, so the attention shifts for areas with the potential for elevated thunderstorms. Some models simulate the development of a few isolated thunderstorms over the West Country and south and west Wales during the late afternoon and evening. Given inter-model differences, there remains some considerable uncertainty as to whether this will occur, and it is likely that this forecast may be updated during Sunday to reflect the latest guidance. During this period of potential (16z-00z) confidence is slightly higher for some convection over western coasts of Wales and the Irish Sea in particular, with less confidence over the West Country.

    As the upper trough sharpens and approaches closer through the evening hours, and a shortwave trough tracks northwards, it is likely that scattered elevated thunderstorms will develop over northern France and/or the English Channel, and will be advected inland across southern parts of Britain towards the end of this forecast period and beyond into the early hours of Monday.

    In any of these events, PWAT values close to or above 30mm could result with some locally large rainfall totals, along with perhaps some small hail in any stronger cores.

    http://ukasf.co.uk/storm-forecasts/255

    Estofex forecast for tomorrow isn't out yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,033 ✭✭✭redsteveireland


    We'll take a slight chance Maq.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    We didn't get anything today but a cell popped up off the northwest coast in the last hour. A lightshow for the fishes.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭sunbabe08


    what a waste :(


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,700 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Some good action just off the SW coast this morning! http://andvari.vedur.is/athuganir/eldingar/i_dag_na.html Looking at sat, it does not look like that's moving towrads the coast (or anywhere really).

    Need to keep an eye what's happening around the English Channel...as that may be our weather later. :)


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,700 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Some amount of strikes off the SW coast! http://www.euclid.org/realtime.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,727 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    The satellite images to the south of Ireland and for Leinster too, looks very encouraging.
    Hopefully the sun beefs them up a lot more.
    http://www.sat24.com/en/gb


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭yellowlabrador


    There's a lot of electrical interference on my radio, I'm listening to longwave and there seem to be strikes every couple of seconds.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    That's something else! 761 strikes in an hour!

    Edit : I just refreshed and it's 800 now.

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    Is that Iancar I see on a speedboat heading southwest? :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭sunbabe08


    seriously what a waste. come on i'm in the mood for a good storm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,796 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    That SW system looks a real tall beast on satellite, look at the heights and top temps!


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,069 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    any chance of it making its way inland??


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,700 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    fryup wrote: »
    any chance of it making its way inland??

    Not likely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,069 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    fryup wrote: »
    any chance of it making its way inland??

    06Z NAE shows precip reaching up from the south to the far southwest early this afternoon and then slowly moving up along the west coast over the evening and night with some weaker looking showers further inland. Hard to know if that would be electric or not though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,340 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

    Some really severe colours peeking in on the edge of the radar

    It's times like this we wish we had a radar out on Valentia Island :)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭hotwhiskey


    Some interesting stuff forming of Lands End in England should hit the South Coast this afternoon.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    hotwhiskey wrote: »
    Some interesting stuff forming of Lands End in England should hit the South Coast this afternoon.

    I don't think they'll become electric here though. Conditions don't look favorable today apart from around southwest and west coasts.


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