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The Reality of Life for Luna

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    #62
    Ursus Horribilis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    How did a thread about kids transitioning at a ridiculously young age turn into a debate about the US Election?


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    #63
    James Brown
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    TBF when I looked at the OP, I thought it was the mother, going by the photo.


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    #64
    thecretinhop
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    i am as a new dad enraged even more by this evil. that is what it is. either take child from these parents or a long jail sentence.
    there is a narrative from socialist anarchist extreme left wing ideology that wants to destroy western world. not on my watch, i will happily go to jail to protect my kid people need to stand up and not be cowered by a few.


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    #65
    James Brown
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    thecretinhop wrote: »
    i am as a new dad enraged even more by this evil. that is what it is. either take child from these parents or a long jail sentence.
    there is a narrative from socialist anarchist extreme left wing ideology that wants to destroy western world. not on my watch, i will happily go to jail to protect my kid people need to stand up and not be cowered by a few.

    Which "socialist anarchist extreme left wing ideology" is it? Trump's, Johnson's, Varadkars?


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    #66
    kowloon
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    thecretinhop wrote: »
    i am as a new dad enraged even more by this evil. that is what it is. either take child from these parents or a long jail sentence.
    there is a narrative from socialist anarchist extreme left wing ideology that wants to destroy western world. not on my watch, i will happily go to jail to protect my kid people need to stand up and not be cowered by a few.

    What does that even mean?


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    #67
    Reviews and Books Galore
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    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/texas-father-blocked-from-stopping-gender-transition-of-son-james-7-to-girl-called-luna


    I would say no until the child is of at least voting age.


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    #68
    Zascar
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    Pretty horriffic story, amazed a jury actually supported this. A very conservative mate is using this as a prime example of how the loony left are ruining socienty. In this case I can't really argue. It's bascially child abuse.


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    #69
    Immortal Starlight
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    I actually feel sick after reading that. The poor child. How can that woman call herself a mother when she wants to chemically castrate her 7 year old son. Disgusting and shocking doesnt begin to describe it.


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    #70
    jimgoose
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    What, you mean with a Vise-Grip or something? Probably not, no! :pac:


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    #71
    stoneill
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    Seems to me that the medical profession in this case are not working for the best interest of the child, but in the best interest of getting the child into their clinic.


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    #72
    Day Lewin
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    NO!


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    #73
    Padraig Mor
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    Immortal Starlight wrote: »
    I actually feel sick after reading that. The poor child. How can that woman call herself a mother when she wants to chemically castrate her 7 year old son. Disgusting and shocking doesnt begin to describe it.

    It's not mentioned in that article, but she's not even the child's biological mother! Child was conceived using IVF and a donor egg. I can't be sure, but I would presume the father in the case is the biological father.


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    #74
    freshpopcorn
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    There's already a thread on it here!

    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058017133/1/#post111314544


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    #75
    freshpopcorn
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    Mod NoteThread reopened, Move from After Hours to Current Affairs please follow local guidelines.


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    #76
    Beasty
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    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    There's already a thread on it here!

    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058017133/1/#post111314544
    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    Mod NoteThread reopened, Move from After Hours to Current Affairs please follow local guidelines.

    And threads merged


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    #77
    Gynoid
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    The ironing is these are two different stories about two different children their mothers are calling Luna. Maybe because the two Mammys are lunatics.
    Feel so sorry for that Dad in the Saves James case - must be like having your heart ripped out of your chest. To know your child will be forever deformed, sterile and impotent. And there is nothing he can do to stop it. Ghastly.


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    #78
    Mean Laqueefa
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    Gynoid wrote: »
    The ironing is these are two different stories about two different children their mothers are calling Luna. Maybe because the two Mammys are lunatics.
    Feel so sorry for that Dad in the Saves James case - must be like having your heart ripped out of your chest. To know your child will be forever deformed, sterile and impotent. And there is nothing he can do to stop it. Ghastly.




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    #79
    Quantum Erasure
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    Padraig Mor wrote: »
    It's not mentioned in that article, but she's not even the child's biological mother! Child was conceived using IVF and a donor egg. I can't be sure, but I would presume the father in the case is the biological father.

    from the article:
    Jeffrey Younger had petitioned a court in Texas to grant him sole custody of his twin sons, James and Jude, in part to avoid a plan to infuse James with female hormones.

    Expert witnesses expressed doubt that James was fully convinced that he was inherently female in testimony last week. "There is still some fluidity in his thinking," said Dr. Benjamin Albritton in sworn testimony.

    sounds to me like the mother really wanted a girl...


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    #80
    hatrickpatrick
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    Immortal Starlight wrote: »
    I actually feel sick after reading that. The poor child. How can that woman call herself a mother when she wants to chemically castrate her 7 year old son. Disgusting and shocking doesnt begin to describe it.

    This will be an extremely controversial comment and probably something better debated in a thread of its own, but I genuinely believe that there are some very narcissistic parents out there (not just in extreme cases like this, but the kinds who for example go out of their way to choose bizarre, 'out there' and sure-fire bully magnet 'unique' names for their kids) who see their kid as more of a fashion accessory than an individual human being. The kind for whom a kid's birthday party is more of an opportunity for Instagram likes than for their kid to actually enjoy themselves, and other such things. I don't know any in real life but we've surely all heard of them in news stories like this and very often when it comes to celebrities etc.

    I see this kind of bullsh!t as an extension of that, not in every case but certainly in a lot of them. It's an extremely narcissistic attitude of "my kid is a toy doll for me to mould as I see fit" which has been around since time immemorial, except in this day and age it's probably better amended to "my kid is a toy doll for me to mould as Instagram demands".

    Once this poor kid has been mutilated and had his life destroyed, I'd be willing to bet huge amounts of money that his mum will be attempting to pimp him out for the paparazzi at every opportunity - reality TV shows, Instagram / YouTube documentaries, turning every 'milestone' event (16th and 18th birthday parties, prom night, graduation etc) into a media circus and a photo-op.

    I could be wrong, but I've come across enough cases like this to be fairly confident in calling this one as part of that obscene trend. This kid is being used as a prop for the mother's personal 15 minutes of fame.


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    #81
    Irish Guitarist
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    My favourite toy when I was two or three was a doll. When I was twelve I went through a brief phase of reading Care Bears comics. I never thought I was a female trapped in a males body though and neither did my parents. I still have absolutely no interest in football or any other sport.

    I feel sorry for these kids that can't express an interest in toys or hobbies not typically associated with their gender without having their parents brainwashing them and pumping them full of dangerous drugs.

    I wonder when Billy Elliot will be remade with the titular character being forced to accept that he's a girl.


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    #82
    suicide_circus
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    this is the new gay conversion therapy


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    #83
    Reviews and Books Galore
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    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    This will be an extremely controversial comment and probably something better debated in a thread of its own, but I genuinely believe that there are some very narcissistic parents out there (not just in extreme cases like this, but the kinds who for example go out of their way to choose bizarre, 'out there' and sure-fire bully magnet 'unique' names for their kids) who see their kid as more of a fashion accessory than an individual human being. The kind for whom a kid's birthday party is more of an opportunity for Instagram likes than for their kid to actually enjoy themselves, and other such things. I don't know any in real life but we've surely all heard of them in news stories like this and very often when it comes to celebrities etc.

    I see this kind of bullsh!t as an extension of that, not in every case but certainly in a lot of them. It's an extremely narcissistic attitude of "my kid is a toy doll for me to mould as I see fit" which has been around since time immemorial, except in this day and age it's probably better amended to "my kid is a toy doll for me to mould as Instagram demands".

    Once this poor kid has been mutilated and had his life destroyed, I'd be willing to bet huge amounts of money that his mum will be attempting to pimp him out for the paparazzi at every opportunity - reality TV shows, Instagram / YouTube documentaries, turning every 'milestone' event (16th and 18th birthday parties, prom night, graduation etc) into a media circus and a photo-op.

    I could be wrong, but I've come across enough cases like this to be fairly confident in calling this one as part of that obscene trend. This kid is being used as a prop for the mother's personal 15 minutes of fame.


    I actually see it being one of two ways.



    1) It's revenge against the father.



    2) The lady dislikes men in regards to masculine attributes, shows contempt or even outright dissaproval/hostility to the boy acting in anyway 'masculine' and it has been internalized.



    Optional 3:



    3) The boy is actually a girl, but it does not matter as you cannot be making a choice like that until you have gone through puberty and your brain has developed. so, minimum 18 and perhaps even 25.


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    #84
    Gynoid
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    this is the new gay conversion therapy

    Stonewall UK, one of the biggest gay rights organisations in Europe if not the world, has been splintered over this. One of the cofounders, Simon Fanshawe, and several big fund raisers, have formed a new organisation called LGB Alliance, especially because of the bigotry towards lesbians. Apparently it is transphobic for lesbians to have a preference for female genitals. I kid you not.


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    ancapailldorcha
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    Geniune question, is there not some sort of hurdle to having this done to a child? Is there no clearance from doctors needed or is it just a case of her being able to make this decision for the child herself unilaterally?

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #86
    Gynoid
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Geniune question, is there not some sort of hurdle to having this done to a child? Is there no clearance from doctors needed or is it just a case of her being able to make this decision for the child herself unilaterally?

    Of course they need doctor's clearance. The childs mother is a doctor. Crazily.. But "affirmation" is the policy now. Well, has been. Though more and more physicians all over the world from Sweden to New Zealand are coming out publicly to cry halt. And some govts are responding with enquiries. The Governor of Texas, about whom I know nothing, is reviewing this case urgently.


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    #87
    Sir Oxman
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    Gynoid wrote: »
    Stonewall UK, one of the biggest gay rights organisations in Europe if not the world, has been splintered over this. One of the cofounders, Simon Fanshawe, and several big fund raisers, have formed a new organisation called LGB Alliance, especially because of the bigotry towards lesbians. Apparently it is transphobic for lesbians to have a preference for female genitals. I kid you not.


    Yes, this has been coming for a while.

    Already, they are being branded 'transphobic', haters, fascists - accused of actually 'killing trans people' in setting it up.
    This is the modus operandi of the transcult movement.

    These are old hands of LGB including transsexuals, hopefully joined by the thousands by new hands that have seen the disaster of the id cult adopted by StonewallUK in a bid to remain well funded and relevant, seen the violent reaction from mainly men & their handmaidens when they attempt to open debate about the effect of 'self-ID' on women's rights and sports, the safeguarding of children thrown out the window, the doxxing, deplatforming, sackings of women in particular that speak up and question the ideology.
    They've also seen the back turned on actual gay & bisexual men and women within Stonewall as they apply the alphabet to their 'umbrella', a very lucrative umbrella.
    They've seen the underhand way Stonewall have captured policy makers and political parties mainly due to their influence and money.


    I hope it's a great success because it really needs to be.


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    #88
    Sir Oxman
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    Gynoid wrote: »
    Of course they need doctor's clearance. The childs mother is a doctor. Crazily.. But "affirmation" is the policy now. Well, has been. Though more and more physicians all over the world from Sweden to New Zealand are coming out publicly to cry halt. And some govts are responding with enquiries. The Governor of Texas, about whom I know nothing, is reviewing this case urgently.


    Offtopic: And this is why the Democrats will find it very difficult to win in 2020 unfortunately. The hierarchy apparently, supports this ludicrous & dangerous sh1t in the name of diversity.


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    Padraig Mor
    Registered Users Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    Irish Guitarist wrote: »
    My favourite toy when I was two or three was a doll. When I was twelve I went through a brief phase of reading Care Bears comics. I never thought I was a female trapped in a males body though and neither did my parents. I still have absolutely no interest in football or any other sport.

    I feel sorry for these kids that can't express an interest in toys or hobbies not typically associated with their gender without having their parents brainwashing them and pumping them full of dangerous drugs.

    I wonder when Billy Elliot will be remade with the titular character being forced to accept that he's a girl.

    The irony is that these 'progressive' gender theory types are actually among the most likely to enforce gender stereotypes - "the kid likes dolls and isn't into sport - he must be a girl!". My son liked My Little Pony and wearing princess dresses when he was smaller. Did I give a ****? No. He's eight now and is as boy-ish as they come (and a bit embarrassed by the My Little Pony stickers he can't remove from his bed!).


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    Gynoid
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    Padraig Mor wrote: »
    The irony is that these 'progressive' gender theory types are actually among the most likely to enforce gender stereotypes - "the kid likes dolls and isn't into sport - he must be a girl!". My son liked My Little Pony and wearing princess dresses when he was smaller. Did I give a ****? No. He's eight now and is as boy-ish as they come (and a bit embarrassed by the My Little Pony stickers he can't remove from his bed!).

    Haha yes, those stickers bound by kryptonite, I have various ones on furniture 30 years later. Personally I think we all go through different genderish phases, maybe even cycle in and out throughout life. It is really square to attach gender labels to behaviour. Be a manly woman or a womanly man but for the love of god dont fcuk around with the body - it is a fragile enough thing anyway, the human body, and there will be sufficient inevitable suffering in a life without adding unnecessary pain.


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    keano_afc
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    In the case of James Younger, thankfully the Governor of Texas seems to be getting involved. Hopefully some sanity will prevail.

    Loathe as I am to say it, Jeffrey Younger should take his kids and disappear. They clearly arent safe around that lunatic of a mother.


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