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Why is petrol so dear in D15?

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  • #32
    Pat Dunne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    Caranica wrote: »
    I got petrol near the Red Cow last Friday for 1.37, D15 is 1.45-1.48 from what I can see. Need to fill up again, think I'll go home via Mount Brown tonight

    Try GO on the Kylemore Road opposite the Sheldon Park Hotel. The prices are always very competitive.


  • #33
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,560 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Agree with the others on this thread that think that a cartel of service stations seem to be keeping D15 full prices higher than they should be.

    Myself, I usually go down to the Circle K in Kilmainham or the Applegreen on Usher’s Quay to fill my tank. Dublin 15 could really do with a Tesco service station along with a proper, big Tesco store.


  • #34
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Tesco will match local pricing and aren't particularly competitive.


  • #35
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    L1011 wrote: »
    Tesco will match local pricing and aren't particularly competitive.

    They were at the beginning but soon fell in line with the rest.


  • #36
    zeebre12
    Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭zeebre12


    What I don't understand is in my local town on a straight road there are 3 petrol stations very close to each other. They are basically beside each other. One is always 2 or 3 cent cheaper than the others. Yet people go to the other 2. Surely you would go to the cheaper one? I know it's only a few cents but still.


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  • #37
    n97 mini
    Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    L1011 wrote: »
    Tesco will match local pricing and aren't particularly competitive.

    Last time I got petrol (few weeks ago) Tesco Maynooth was 8c more expensive than Applegreen in Celbridge. I haven't been in Dundrum in a while but for some reason Tesco there was always 5c cheaper than Maynooth.

    In D15 regularly, and agree that petrol is suspiciously expensive there.


  • #38
    n97 mini
    Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    zeebre12 wrote: »
    What I don't understand is in my local town on a straight road there are 3 petrol stations very close to each other. They are basically beside each other. One is always 2 or 3 cent cheaper than the others. Yet people go to the other 2. Surely you would go to the cheaper one? I know it's only a few cents but still.

    Usually people who do that went to school with the owner/know his brother/married to owner's cousin/don't like the lad that owns the cheaper one etc.


  • #39
    Pat Dunne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    I came across this article in a Wexford Newspaper this morning it's about fuel prices.
    It just goes to prove how much we on Dublin 15 are been ripped off by the various fuel companies.

    At the time of writing (March 10th), the fuel prices on offer in Bunclody are:

    Apple Green – Petrol 132.8, Diesel 122.8
    Texaco – Petrol 132.9, Diesel 122.9
    Campus – Petrol 134.9, Diesel 123.9

    https://wexfordtoday.com/2020/03/10/the-cheapest-place-to-fill-up-in-co-wexford/


  • #40
    ciaran76
    Registered Users Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭ciaran76


    I know its not D15 but if anyone is in Ratoath the Circle K on the Fairyhouse Road was 138.9 for Petrol and 126.9 for Diesel (not 100% on diesel as was buying Petrol )


  • #41
    Pat Dunne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    Despite the recent reductions, I still note D15 has the dearest Diesel around at €123.8 per litre, Circle K Coolmine and Apple Green Clonsilla.
    Just down the road in Ratoath, Diesel varies between €119.9 Fairyhouse and €122.9, Kings Gala Circle K and TOP Coolquay, Ashbourne Rd.
    I know it’s only marginal, however it underlines my belief that there is a cartel in operation in the D15 area fixing the price of fuel.


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  • #42
    Larbre34
    Registered Users Posts: 23,781 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Honestly I think its because petrol stations are thin on the ground and its such a residential area, the market will decide. The prices aren't identical enough to be a cartel, its just the type of local price disparity you get around the Country.


  • #43
    LorelaiG
    Registered Users Posts: 699 ✭✭✭LorelaiG


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Honestly I think its because petrol stations are thin on the ground and its such a residential area, the market will decide. The prices aren't identical enough to be a cartel, its just the type of local price disparity you get around the Country.

    Thin on the ground? There are 10 off the top of my head in the d15 area.


  • #44
    Larbre34
    Registered Users Posts: 23,781 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    So can I, but Dublin 15 must be 80+ square kilometers with a population of 200,000, the petrol stations are well spread out, except around Mulhuddart or up at the back of the business parks in Ballycoolin. They've more than enough trade each not to need to be cutthroat with the prices.

    Personally every 2 or 3 weeks if I happen to be in town off peak I go to the station at Ushers Island on the Quays, no matter whether prices are high or low generally I've never seen it beaten on price.


  • #45
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 12,973 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    I don't know how fuel isn't down to a euro a litre at this stage.


  • #46
    L1011
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    I don't know how fuel isn't down to a euro a litre at this stage.

    Because oil needs to be in single dollars a barrel for that, if ever

    For petrol, duty, carbon tax, NORA levy + VAT on the lot is ~76c before anything else

    That would give 19c a litre for the actual petrol including all distribution and sales costs.

    For diesel its in the low 30s.


  • #47
    Pat Dunne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    So can I, but Dublin 15 must be 80+ square kilometers with a population of 200,000, the petrol stations are well spread out, except around Mulhuddart or up at the back of the business parks in Ballycoolin. They've more than enough trade each not to need to be cutthroat with the prices.

    Personally every 2 or 3 weeks if I happen to be in town off peak I go to the station at Ushers Island on the Quays, no matter whether prices are high or low generally I've never seen it beaten on price.

    Ushers Island is easily beaten on price.
    EMO Oil at Mount Brown, opposite St James Hospital, consistently the cheapest Petrol and Diesel for many years. Go, opposite the Sheldon Park Hotel on Kylemore Rd, regularly beats Ushers Island.


  • #48
    Larbre34
    Registered Users Posts: 23,781 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Pat Dunne wrote: »
    Ushers Island is easily beaten on price.
    EMO Oil at Mount Brown, opposite St James Hospital, consistently the cheapest Petrol and Diesel for many years. Go, opposite the Sheldon Park Hotel on Kylemore Rd, regularly beats Ushers Island.

    Nice one.


  • #49
    Irishphotodesk
    Registered Users Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Irishphotodesk


    Pat Dunne wrote: »
    Ushers Island is easily beaten on price.
    EMO Oil at Mount Brown, opposite St James Hospital, consistently the cheapest Petrol and Diesel for many years. Go, opposite the Sheldon Park Hotel on Kylemore Rd, regularly beats Ushers Island.

    And how many times has the place been closed by authorities, I can recall at least twice in the last few years, and I don’t pass it too often anymore.

    For clarity, it was the emo mount brown that I was referring to, not ushers island place.

    Place near Harold’s cross is usually cheap too.


  • #50
    Pat Dunne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    Irishphotodesk wrote: »
    And how many times has the place been closed by authorities, I can recall at least twice in the last few years, and I don’t pass it too often anymore.

    For clarity, it was the emo mount brown that I was referring to, not ushers island place.

    Place near Harold’s cross is usually cheap too.

    I honestly do not understand your post.

    https://www.joe.ie/uncategorized/dublin-petrol-station-fined-e14k-for-overcharging-customers-29172


    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/oil-firm-critical-of-petrol-station-s-prices-1.992564


  • #51
    silver2020
    Registered Users Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭silver2020


    Irishphotodesk wrote: »
    And how many times has the place been closed by authorities, I can recall at least twice in the last few years, and I don’t pass it too often anymore.

    For clarity, it was the emo mount brown that I was referring to, not ushers island place.

    Place near Harold’s cross is usually cheap too.

    Always be careful what you say as if you don't educate yourself to the correct information, you can be caught for defamation.

    It is true that a fuel station in mount brown that traded there for a few years was closed and convicted of tax evasion. That was in 2011/2012.

    The people who ran the station then (it did not have a brand over the canopy) closed down and have nothing whatsoever to do with the current station.

    The station that is there now is an EMO Oil branded station and operates to the highest standards. It is owned by the Cox family who operate Cox's wholesale in Newbridge amongst other businesses and would be considered a first class business operator.

    Btw, they also operate the Go Station on Kylemore road


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  • #52
    Murt10
    Registered Users Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭Murt10


    I was going to fill up with petrol earlier today and went to Applegreen on the Clonsilla Rd. They were charging €147.80 per for petrol.
    Later I passed the Circle K in Mulhuddart. They were charging an eye watering €149.80 per Lr.
    Annoyed, I headed off to Tesco Clearwater Finglas where I paid €141.90 per Lr.
    Lads, we're being ridden sideways (as Mrs Doyle said) by these massively profitable cartels operating in the Dublin 15 area.


  • #53
    Larbre34
    Registered Users Posts: 23,781 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I buy Diesel. Yesterday I price checked the M3 Services and Circle K in Mulhuddart which displayed 140.5 or so, I then saw it at the Circle K city bound by the Navan Road Parkway for 136.9, so I bought it there.

    Theres really no cartel. Yes, they do mark each other locally, but wholesale oil prices have climbed for a number of well documented reasons and its the same all over the Country. Just do your research.


  • #54
    ongarboy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    Murt10 wrote: »
    I was going to fill up with petrol earlier today and went to Applegreen on the Clonsilla Rd. They were charging €147.80 per for petrol.
    Later I passed the Circle K in Mulhuddart. They were charging an eye watering €149.80 per Lr.
    Annoyed, I headed off to Tesco Clearwater Finglas where I paid €141.90 per Lr.
    Lads, we're being ridden sideways (as Mrs Doyle said) by these massively profitable cartels operating in the Dublin 15 area.

    I think you were ridden more sideways than anyone else if you were paying over €140 per litre. The rest of us just pay a bit over €1.40 per litre!!


  • #55
    NufcNavan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭NufcNavan


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    I buy Diesel. Yesterday I price checked the M3 Services and Circle K in Mulhuddart which displayed 140.5 or so, I then saw it at the Circle K city bound by the Navan Road Parkway for 136.9, so I bought it there.

    Theres really no cartel. Yes, they do mark each other locally, but wholesale oil prices have climbed for a number of well documented reasons and its the same all over the Country. Just do your research.

    I filled up on diesel outside of D15 recently for 10 cent a litre cheaper. D15 and Lucan is a cartel.


  • #56
    Larbre34
    Registered Users Posts: 23,781 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    NufcNavan wrote: »
    I filled up on diesel outside of D15 recently for 10 cent a litre cheaper. D15 and Lucan is a cartel.

    You have that freedom, which proves there isn't a cartel.

    If people stop accepting the local prices and buy elsewhere, they'll get the message. Very hard to create a cartel when your market can shrug and go somewhere else. Chancers, yes. Cartel, no.


  • #57
    Caranica
    Registered Users Posts: 10,000 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    If you do a search on here you'll find a thread I previously started on this matter with more replies.


  • #58
    Gate Automation
    Registered Users Posts: 308 ✭✭Gate Automation


    Most of people don't care about price difference, why wasting time to go to tesco Clearwater to save 5 € :)


  • #59
    Larbre34
    Registered Users Posts: 23,781 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Gate Automation wrote: »
    Most of people don't care about price difference, why wasting time to go to tesco Clearwater to save 5 € :)

    The fuel is poxy too.


  • #60
    miamee
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 11,973 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    Caranica wrote: »
    If you do a search on here you'll find a thread I previously started on this matter with more replies.

    Threads merged.


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  • #61
    85603
    Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭85603


    could it be something to do with the cost of transporting the fuel?

    isn't there a fuel pipe that runs from the docks to the airport or something.

    maybe thats got something to do with it.


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