[SEPT 23 1989]

People will be still listening to this song with all the original words long after that twerp with his silly ideas is dead

[Grayson]

Originally Posted by banie01

Well I don't agree that it's silly.
There is a significant difference between bleeping out offensive language at pre-watershed times and re-writing the lyrics of a song to change its original content.

Censorship happens, that's true and it has for years. Doesn't make it right.
By censoring a song that has been played (both censored and uncensored) for years precisely because of faux outrage gives the impression that because tastes or sensibilities change that it is ok to revise the original work.

*I suddenly feel offended that at Christmas I am assailed by artwork depicting naked babies, it's practically pornographic!
I demand any images of a naked baby should be amended to protect my delicate sensibilities!

Furthermore all nude artwork should be "improved" by painted in bikinis!

It may totally detract from the artists intended impact and message, but shut my feelings trump Art*

*= May be hyperbolic, but it is a logical extension of this stance.

I know it's hyperbolic but if anyone complains because a naked baby is pornographic, they have bigger problems than their sensibilities.

[squawker]

Originally Posted by SEPT 23 1989

twerp with his silly ideas is dead

what Twerp?

[biko]

Just PC brigade chancing their arm to see if they can this thing changed.
Then it'll be another thing
Then another
Then

They will never be happy

[lertsnim]

Originally Posted by Grayson

Is Fairytale really modern chart music?

I never said it was But the radio station that Eoghan McDermott works for, 2FM, plays modern chart music. Unless that's changed recently?

[DEFTLEFTHAND]

****** wasn't used as a gay slur over here.

[DEFTLEFTHAND]

Originally Posted by Heckler

Shes obviously calling him a bundle of sticks that can be used to heat his cosy home. No need for the censoring. She'd want him to be warm at christmas. Very thoughtful.

It was also used as an old English insult for degenerate losers.

The Americans were the ones to use it as a homosexual slur.

[King of Kings]

I see rory cowan has said mcdermott and his offended friends are eejits and stuff like this detracts from real gay issues. And I agree.

This in a nutshell captures the stupidity of much of this "i am offended" screeching....it is a few people trying to impose their views on everybody or the same few speaking on behalf of others when they've no right to.

[Somedaythefire]

There's a lot of people really offended on here at the thought of a word being censored on here.

It's hardly like most other curse words get censored now is it...

[lertsnim]

Originally Posted by Somedaythefire

There's a lot of people really offended on here at the thought of a word being censored on here.

It's hardly like most other curse words get censored now is it...

I wouldn't say people are offended. Annoyed would be more appropriate.

[major bill]

Twitter really is going to bring down humanity. I couldnt give a **** if they censor it or not but its no surprise all this PC nonsense the last 10 years coincides with the birth and rise of Twitter.

As for the word, I understand it might offend some Gay people however when I was growing up in Dublin the word had a different meaning, when you called someone a ****** it wasn't over their sexuality it was just they were a windbag or whatever.

Won't lose sleep either way if its censored or not but its border line ridiculous now, how much of a safe space do people want in society, if it really offends you then switch off the song.

[DEFTLEFTHAND]

Did a bit of research into the origin of the slur in the USA

****** and 'fag' first appear in the Jackson and Hellyers 1914 publication 'A vocabulary of criminal slang with examples of common usages.'

'Bulldyking' was the term for lesbians.

What on earth does that mean?

[valoren]

Originally Posted by brevity

Isn’t that Dire straits song “money for nothing” censored as well?

“See the little ****** with the earring and the make-up
Yeah buddy that's his own hair
That little ****** got his own jet airplane
That little ****** he's millionaire”

I think this verse has been completely left out for years.

What I get from that is the people disparaging MTV millionaire man as a little ****** are jealous, spiteful assholes and the lyrics allude to the idea that people who use ****** by way of insult to feel better about themselves are spiteful, jealous assholes. A sort of cognitive dissonance. They want to be rich with jet airplanes themselves but MTV man is a little ****** and they can console themselves that they don't have them by using insults.

[dirtyden]

****

[Obvious Desperate Breakfasts]

Originally Posted by facehugger99

Personally, I'd be glad to get a break from that song - It's been over-played to death, would be quite happy to never hear it again.

Me too. Great song... that I’d be happy if I never heard again.