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14-05-2018, 22:25   #16
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I would hope the Irish defence forces would shoot dead any person or groups who would try to cross our border with criminal intent.
I'd be incredibly ashamed if our soldiers showed such blatant disregard for life, that they kill children and journalists
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No-one said the Palestinians had to riot and act the bollocks because an embassy opened.

But they did.

Nobody said the Palestinians had to start invading the border of Israel despite being warned numerous times not to do so.

But they did.
JIDF like b*ll*xology. You honestly believe that most people believe this crap? To make it understandable in an Irish context its like arguing that Widgery was more truthful than Saville when trying to explain what happened on Bloody Sunday.
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I would hope the Irish defence forces would shoot dead any person or groups who would try to cross our border with criminal intent.
The Irish Defence Forces are not war criminals who murder unarmed civilians.
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14-05-2018, 22:29   #19
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Israel has been for a very long time a murder machine.
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What does “knowing what would happen” mean?
Are you being disingenuous? Hamas is ok with palestinians being killed, it's good PR for them. They couldn't care less about them, the more dead the better for Hamas.

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When white supremicists shot at peaceful black protests, did the responsibility like with Martin Luther king or the ANC?
That's a strawman argument. The palestinian protestors weren't non-violent.

Israel will protect it's border, the danger of Hamas or another terrorist group using these "riots" as cover to insert terrorists into Israel is too high for them to take a hands-off approach.
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14-05-2018, 22:36   #21
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Well one can be certain that the Palestinians would wipe out Israel if they got the chance.
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14-05-2018, 22:37   #22
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There are no good guys in Israel or Palestine - it's just a question which version of bad you prefer to back for crude political reasons
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Are you being disingenuous? Hamas is ok with palestinians being killed, it's good PR for them. They couldn't care less about them, the more dead the better for Hamas.



That's a strawman argument. The palestinian protestors weren't non-violent.

Israel will protect it's border, the danger of Hamas or another terrorist group using these "riots" as cover to insert terrorists into Israel is too high for them to take a hands-off approach.
So mow down everybody then as a tactic? Message understood.
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Israeli spokesperson on RTE essentially said that they were shooting at the Palestinians because they don't have space in prison. And some of them are hamas.

Hamas = bad
Israel = bad

Not sure how you can be in favour of either side here... It's a mess.
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What conflict?

By the IDF's own admission one soldier was "slightly wounded by shrapnel" and "Our troops have not taken any sustained direct fire". Also no one crossed the border.

55 Palestinians are dead. 2,000 are injured.

That's not a bloody "conflict"
The conflict that has been going on the region for 50+ years.

Do keep up.
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What are you talking about?
Ukraines border has already been compromised by Russia. If they thought the EU would stand by and just let a bunch of right wing nut jobs just walk across the borders of Eastern European nations unaposed they would be occupied by now.

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The Irish Defence Forces are not war criminals who murder unarmed civilians.
Perhaps if Ireland was built a few years ago based on the mass seizure of land from the native inhabitants and today we were systematically colonising the remaining bits then the poster might have a point.

Stupidest f*cking comparison I've seen all day.
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If Israel wanted the Palestinians gone it would be over in mere hours. Yet Gaza and the West Bank still stand.
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Victim blaming.
The kids are the victims. I'm not blaming them.

I blame the Palestinian "Politicians".
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It's murder, murder, murder, murder . No other name for it. Scandalous nation is Israel.
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