Ireland Under 20 2019 6 Nations and World Championships

thomond2006 · 18-01-2019 4:07pm

Buer wrote: »

When the hell did this happen?

It happened while you were thinking of your next anti-Hayes post.

Buer · 18-01-2019 4:08pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

It happened while you were thinking of your next anti-Hayes post.

You're going to have to narrow it down.

The Lost Sheep · 18-01-2019 4:09pm

Kerins playing AIl with cookies
Niall saunders had to stop playing. Can't remember why off top of my head
Bollard playing AlL with belvo

Wegians89 · 18-01-2019 4:16pm

Kerins is making his Connacht debut tomorrow. Mathew Byrne was in Connacht academy but now back in Dublin playing ail, forget who he’s with

Locke_Lamora · 18-01-2019 4:19pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Kerins playing AIl with cookies
Niall saunders had to stop playing. Can't remember why off top of my head
Bollard playing AlL with belvo

Saunders is back playing for harlequin. He had a blood disease for years I think but finally got it sorted.

Bazzo · 18-01-2019 4:30pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Kerins playing AIl with cookies
Niall saunders had to stop playing. Can't remember why off top of my head
Bollard playing AlL with belvo

Just out of curiosity anyone know why Kerins went with Young Munster for his club? Any link seeing as he's from Sligo or did he just want to be playing in a 1A team?

The Lost Sheep · 18-01-2019 4:42pm

Bazzo wrote: »

Just out of curiosity anyone know why Kerins went with Young Munster for his club? Any link seeing as he's from Sligo or did he just want to be playing in a 1A team?

Play a higher level of rugby nothing more I would guess

D14Rugby · 18-01-2019 5:51pm

Matt Byrne is playing AIL with Terenure and David Aspil is playing AIL with St Mary's.

Purist98 · 18-01-2019 11:36pm

Locke_Lamora wrote: »

That's pretty much full strength I think, quite a few players returning from injury. Can't think of anyone who was really unlucky to miss out.

David Ryan potentially a bit unlucky, though he might've been one of the centres, anyone know much about Oli Morris?

Fox90 · 19-01-2019 9:53am

David Ryan is massively over rated. Very average player.

donnybrook1 · 20-01-2019 3:24pm

most talented under 20s team in years with the likes of Hawkshaw Baird Penny French Turner and Byrne

Chico Flores · 20-01-2019 6:58pm

Trinity 34 - Belvo 19

Clontarf 31 - Barnhall 30

Lansdowne 36 Blackrock 14

UCD 10 Terenure 17

Leinster5 · 20-01-2019 7:02pm

Dublin University 34 Old Belvedere 19
Clontarf 31 MU Barnhall 30
Lansdowne 36 Blackrock College RFC 14
UCD 10 Terenure College RFC 17

Heard Trinity could of won by more, keeps them in touch with Clontarf. 'Tarf were meant to be sub par vs Barnhall and Barnhall should of won. Heard Lansdowne were losing with 10mins to go but ran in several tries in last few minutes. Terenure were meant to be much better side vs UCD.

Good to see league so competitive this year, there's upsets most weeks at top and bottom of the table.

The Lost Sheep · 20-01-2019 7:04pm

Munsters 7 Shannon 31
UCC 10 Garryowen 20

Chico Flores · 20-01-2019 7:05pm

Leinster5 wrote: »

Dublin University 34 Old Belvedere 19
Clontarf 31 MU Barnhall 30
Lansdowne 36 Blackrock College RFC 14
UCD 10 Terenure College RFC 17

Heard Trinity could of won by more, keeps them in touch with Clontarf. 'Tarf were meant to be sub par vs Barnhall and Barnhall should of won. Heard Lansdowne were losing with 10mins to go but ran in several tries in last few minutes. Terenure were meant to be much better side vs UCD.

Good to see league so competitive this year, there's upsets most weeks at top and bottom of the table.

Belvo and Barnhall have had quite a few narrow losses.

UCD seemed to have scraped a few wins from defeats

Synode · 20-01-2019 9:32pm

Conor and Jimmy O'Brien are academy players at Leinster no?

The Lost Sheep · 20-01-2019 9:35pm

Synode wrote: »

Conor and Jimmy O'Brien are academy players at Leinster no?

yes they are but are 2 and almost 3 years overage(in conor's case) for under 20s this year

Synode · 20-01-2019 10:56pm

Ah yeah I just mentioned them in terms of Thomand having them down as squad players in his recap and others as academy players.

House4596 · 22-01-2019 1:23pm

Lucas44 wrote: »

Whatever about him being a good player there is absolutely no chance of him being captain or vice captain. He’s probably 3rd maybe even 4th choice 10 and 2nd choice 12 when Moore is fit. Captain will be either Craig Casey or Charlie Ryan with the other being vice . Maybe Harry Byrne or azur Allison could get a leadership role I.e vice captain

You made yourself look like some fool now, it’s funny how wrong you were about him

House4596 · 22-01-2019 1:41pm

Lucas44 wrote: »

Yes he played for Ireland u18s as an u17 but hasn’t really kicked on, Harry Byrne and Ben Healy both ahead of him at 10 and maybe even Jake Flannery

That’s because he was injured for Ireland the past two years, you’re clueless if you’re saying he hasn’t kicked on since then, he had an amazing Senior cup campaign in 2017 and was meant to captain Ireland u18s that year but only missed out due to injury and he’s been playing AIL for clontarf and has been named captain for Ireland u20s , it’s a bit ridiculous saying he hasn’t kicked on since then

Locke_Lamora · 22-01-2019 3:38pm

House4596 wrote: »

That’s because he was injured for Ireland the past two years, you’re clueless if you’re saying he hasn’t kicked on since then, he had an amazing Senior cup campaign in 2017 and was meant to captain Ireland u18s that year but only missed out due to injury and he’s been playing AIL for clontarf and has been named captain for Ireland u20s , it’s a bit ridiculous saying he hasn’t kicked on since then

Tbf, I don't think he was necessarily the clear cut choice to start. Byrne has experience at this level which goes a long way, and Moore for me would have been the starting 12 if fit. I think with the amount of flyhalfs in the squad Hawkshaw is likely to be playing 12, and Flannery is likely to be getting on at 15.

bradders90 · 22-01-2019 7:05pm

Caolan Englefield very unlucky in picking up a shoulder injury that meant surgery and being sidelined for the rest of the season. Was almost guaranteed to make the squad, and most likely start. Played England u16, Ireland u18 and Ireland u19. Final year of eligibility.

NoScrumNoWin0 · 22-01-2019 8:38pm

bradders90 wrote: »

Caolan Englefield very unlucky in picking up a shoulder injury that meant surgery and being sidelined for the rest of the season. Was almost guaranteed to make the squad, and most likely start. Played England u16, Ireland u18 and Ireland u19. Final year of eligibility.

guaranteed to make squad ahead of whom?

don't think Englefield was guaranteed to make the squad at all, as an exile he got several chances, but he never struck me as a top prospect.

NoScrumNoWin0 · 22-01-2019 8:47pm

Ireland under-20's

Loosehead Prop
Michael Milne(Birr RFC-Roscrea/UCD)
Josh Wycherley(Bantry Bay RFC-Roscrea/Young Munster)
Giuseppe Coyne(Blackrock/DUFC)

Milne will be the early favourite to be first choice at this position after struggling to re-adjust to tighthead post celtic cup. Wycherley was a late addition to the Munster academy and while not the carrier than Milne is, he shouldn't be much of a downgrade in quality around the field. Coyne will hope to take his chance if given it, had been dominant for Trinity 20's early in the season and not starts regularly for their 1sts in the AIL.

Tighthead Prop
Thomas Clarkson(Blackrock/DUFC) - u19
Ryan Lomas(Roscrea/Galwegians)
Luke Masters(CBC Cork/Shannon)

Clarkson will be the early favourite for the England game here, despite being eligible again next season. Who will be his primary backup is interesting, Lomas is probably the best bet although his disciplinary record isn't very good, Masters has missed most of the season with an injury but was highly rated at u18 and u19 level.

Hooker
Dylan Tierney(Corinthians)
Billy Scannell(PBC/Young Munster)
John McKee(Campbell/Old Belvedere) - u19

Tierney was capped last season so will likely start the first game, the converted backrow will hope to hold off Scannell, who is highly rated. McKee captained Ireland u19 in the season and will likely have to wait his turn for a chance in the 6 nations.

Joaverage · 22-01-2019 9:15pm

NoScrumNoWin0 wrote: »

guaranteed to make squad ahead of whom?

don't think Englefield was guaranteed to make the squad at all, as an exile he got several chances, but he never struck me as a top prospect.

As an exile,not involved with a province, it may well be harder to impress the coaches and selectors. Englefield may well have been selected, but doubt he would have been a starter as Casey is vice captain

Sunderland00 · 23-01-2019 9:00pm

Full prem 1 league predictions anyone.

NoScrumNoWin0 · 23-01-2019 10:13pm

Ireland under-20's Locks

Charlie Ryan(Blackrock/UCD)
Ryan Baird(St. Michaels/DUFC)
Niall Murray(Buccaneers)
JJ McKee(Antrim/Ballymena)
Paddy Kelly(St. Munchins/Young Munster) - u19
Brian Deeny(Wexford/Clontarf) - u19

Charlie Ryan returns from last years squad where he got 5 caps, all off the bench, he is the most physically imposing of the locks named in teh squad and looks very likely to be 1st choice TH lock. Past that Ryan Baird and Niall Murray are both superb athletes for the position, with Murray lining up at 6 during warmup games over Christmas. JJ McKee looks most likely to backup Ryan at TH lock and has emerged this season after not featuring in Ireland squads at a younger age. Two locks who will be eligible again next season are named in the squad, Paddy Kelly is a physically imposing lock who could surprise at TH lock if given a chance, while Brian Deeny fits more in the athletic lock mold, with previous experience at 7's rugby and in the backrow.

Ireland u20 backrows

Scott Penny(St. Michaels/UCD)
Azur Allison(Ballymena/Ballymena)
John Hodnett(Clonakilty RFC/UCC)
Martin Moloney(Athy RFC/Old Belvedere)
Ronan Watters(St. Marys/St. Marys)
David McCann(RBAI/Banbridge) - u19

Scott Penny has surprised everyone this season with 3 senior starts for Leinster and if released will be the likely starting openside for the 20's. Below him John Hodnett and Martin Moloney looks the most likely players to play 7 for the 20's. Although both have experience at other positions, Hodnett at 8 and Moloney at 6. Azur Allison would be starting 8 if he could stay healthy, but he has been unable to do so this season, he is already confirmed to be missing the england game. Ronan Watters looks to be his obvious replacement at 8 or the previously mentioned Hodnett. David McCann could be an option at 8, but I think it more likely he plays 6 at this stage, although he is likely behind Niall Murray and others at the position.

Dubinusa · 24-01-2019 6:12am

Baird seems small for a lock. He's listed as 6ft 4in.

NoScrumNoWin0 · 24-01-2019 8:30am

Dubinusa wrote: »

Baird seems small for a lock. He's listed as 6ft 4in.

which is incorrect, he is 6'6.

NoScrumNoWin0 · 24-01-2019 11:42am

Ireland u20 squad in Cork

Ireland Under 20 2019 6 Nations and World Championships

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