Wording of Will Extract

Jellybaby1 · 10-09-2018 12:47am #1

Could someone explain what this actually means? I'm wondering if 'B' might be related to to 'A', the deceased.

"Letters of Administration of the personal estate of 'A' were granted at the Principal Registry to 'B' having an interest."

pinkypinky · 10-09-2018 10:07am

Letter of Admin means the deceased died without a will, so whoever is taking out the grant is likely to be a relative and have an interest in getting the estate resolved. There was no need to be a relative and neighbours or friends would often oblige. In my family, 2 male neighbours took out a grant for the widow of my ancestor, presumably just because (in that era, apparently, insert feminist grumble here) men were seen to be better at these things.

Jellybaby1 · 10-09-2018 8:24pm

I just came across this extract by accident. I believe 'B' is the man at the top of my tree who I've been looking for about ten years now. I have never come across 'A' before and now I'm chasing information on him as it may lead me somewhere. :rolleyes: However, if as you say they didn't have to be related, then I'm back to square one again!

tabbey · 10-09-2018 10:41pm

Administration can be granted where a will exists, either because the will cannot be proved, or where the executor chosen by the deceased is dead or chooses not to be executor, or is deemed unfit to execute the will. The will calendars have numerous cases of " administration with will annexed".

In the case mentioned,the person with an interest, may have a financial interest, such as a creditor. One of my ancestors had a creditor granted administration. It was reasonable enough, he wanted his money.

Sycamore11 · 10-09-2018 11:38pm

My interpretation of the wording is that the deceased died intestate prior to 1959 and a grant of administration issued in his estate from the Probate Office in Dublin.

In similar circumstances I have booked a viewing of the administration documentation at the National Archives. It takes about three days from the date of booking to the date the documentation is available for viewing. Booking can be done by phone. If required you can get copies of the documentation however that is quite expensive, with permission you are allowed photograph it. I'm assuming of course that the documentation still exists and has not been destroyed during historic events.

The documentation should provide details or at least clues of the connection of the administrator to the deceased.

Jellybaby1 · 11-09-2018 12:08am

Thanks Sycamore11, I'll follow that up.

Tabbey: Think you may be near the mark regarding a creditor as I believe my man, 'B', did have a business in Dublin city so it would make sense for him to chase any monies owed to him.

pedroeibar1 · 11-09-2018 10:24am

I agree with what Tabbey has written above but add that I would not dismiss the ‘non-relationship’ too quickly.

Extracting probate is an onerous task, involving the search for relatives, advertising for creditors (people to whom the deceased owes money), selling assets, collecting debts due, settling with the Revenue Commissioners, etc. While it can be accomplished by a ‘lay’ person, the Probate Office (part of the High Court) usually will require that an Administration bond is posted by a bank or insurer, guaranteeing that the estate will be wound up correctly. Few people without a close relationship (blood or personal) or owed a substantial sum would willingly take on the role.

It is one reason why everyone should have a will.

Wording of Will Extract

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