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What places have closed during the pandemic?

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    #62
    blue_blue
    Registered Users Posts: 190 ✭✭blue_blue


    dhaughton99 wrote: »
    Carluccis and Starbucks on Dawson st. Subway on merrion st lower.

    Has the signage for Carluccis been taken down? (haven't been in town in months).

    According to this article last May, the intention was to keep the Dawson street restaurant open.


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    #63
    AhhHere
    Registered Users Posts: 346 ✭✭AhhHere


    Roma 2. Chipper beside Whelan's is gone


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    #64
    pottokblue
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    noooooo is that were the late Anthony Bourdain ate on his 48hours in Dublin???


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    #65
    AhhHere
    Registered Users Posts: 346 ✭✭AhhHere


    pottokblue wrote: »
    noooooo is that were the late Anthony Bourdain ate on his 48hours in Dublin???

    Yep. Smoked cod and taco fries if I remember correctly


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    #66
    odyssey06
    Registered Users Posts: 27,867 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    pottokblue wrote: »
    noooooo is that were the late Anthony Bourdain ate on his 48hours in Dublin???

    Yep, also Slatterys Capel St, Chophouse, Crackbird, Matt the Threshers and drinks in Gravediggers, Palace Bar, Long Hall, Hogans.
    A previous trip brought him to King Sitric in Howth.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/travel/ireland/anthony-bourdain-s-dublin-1.3529146

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #67
    pottokblue
    Registered Users Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭pottokblue


    Crackbird gone, the other places still there I believe?? I might go on an Anthony Bourdain tribute trail sometime in 2022/23 post restrictions... Is there a Roma1 somewhere?


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    #68
    AhhHere
    Registered Users Posts: 346 ✭✭AhhHere


    pottokblue wrote: »
    Crackbird gone, the other places still there I believe?? I might go on an Anthony Bourdain tribute trail sometime in 2022/23 post restrictions... Is there a Roma1 somewhere?

    There's a Roma on dean Street, d8. Across from fallons pub. I asked before if they were connected and they said yes. But Im not sure I believe them.


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    #69
    ongarboy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    01902 wrote: »
    Abercrombie and Fitch

    Is that for definite or just closed for duration of lockdown? I'd have thought that would make the news if it exited Ireland. There was such a big fuss when it first opened.


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    #70
    Muahahaha
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    AhhHere wrote: »
    Roma 2. Chipper beside Whelan's is gone

    jaysis, that must have been there for decades.

    Id guess some landlords who have their mortgages long since paid off are using the pandemic as a way to exit 30 year leases in the hope of getting tenants who'll pay a good deal more rent when things open back up.


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    #71
    ligerdub
    Registered Users Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    jaysis, that must have been there for decades.

    Id guess some landlords who have their mortgages long since paid off are using the pandemic as a way to exit 30 year leases in the hope of getting tenants who'll pay a good deal more rent when things open back up.

    That's quite an ambitious take in my opinion.


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    #72
    retalivity
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    I avoided roma 2 for years after getting a bad feed in it one night. Always seemed empty apart from late at night.
    Gave it another go about a year ago and it was surprisingly good. Went back for a few lunches from work and it was good chipper fare - sad to see it go.


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    #73
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    ligerdub wrote: »
    That's quite an ambitious take in my opinion.

    Why so? Demand for food retail units on Camden St has skyrocketed over the last few years. A unit like the Roma 2 will get snapped up in jig time, those opportunities dont come along too often and lots of food businesses would love a foothold on Camden Street


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    #74
    timeToLive
    Registered Users Posts: 283 ✭✭timeToLive


    ongarboy wrote: »
    Is that for definite or just closed for duration of lockdown? I'd have thought that would make the news if it exited Ireland. There was such a big fuss when it first opened.


    I think it lost it's allure when it actually opened here though


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    #75
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,988 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    'Snax in the City' on the corner of Aungier Street/Stephen Street Upper is gone. Had many sandwiches there over the years.


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    #76
    miamee
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    ixoy wrote: »
    'Snax in the City' on the corner of Aungier Street/Stephen Street Upper is gone. Had many sandwiches there over the years.

    Ah no! Was always a handy spot when stuck for a quick lunch. That's a shame now. There will be devastation in our office to hear this.


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    #77
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,988 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    miamee wrote: »
    Ah no! Was always a handy spot when stuck for a quick lunch. That's a shame now. There will be devastation in our office to hear this.
    Same from our office! A work colleague said it was up for rent so I'm guessing Shane, the proprietor, has finished up.


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    #78
    ligerdub
    Registered Users Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Why so? Demand for food retail units on Camden St has skyrocketed over the last few years. A unit like the Roma 2 will get snapped up in jig time, those opportunities dont come along too often and lots of food businesses would love a foothold on Camden Street

    Selling to who? There's going to be less footfall in that area for a considerable amount of time compared to one year ago and beyond. Even if we assume that things get back to a degree of normality, there's no indication that it's going to be gangbusters for business.

    Bear in mind the amount of businesses closing down will create much more vacancy for units to rent. More vacancy = downward pressure on rents.

    There may be a bit of inflationary pressure to say the least due to the decline of the euro, but I just don't see how there's going to be an expansion of commercial activity that's going to bring along a scrap for units.


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    #79
    Ben D Bus
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    dhaughton99 wrote: »
    Carluccis and Starbucks on Dawson st. Subway on merrion st lower.

    I walked by Carluccios today. Signs are still up, furniture still inside and the giveaway the big Gaggia coffee machine is still there. I don't think they're gone yet.


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    #80
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    ligerdub wrote: »
    Selling to who? There's going to be less footfall in that area for a considerable amount of time compared to one year ago and beyond. Even if we assume that things get back to a degree of normality, there's no indication that it's going to be gangbusters for business.

    Bear in mind the amount of businesses closing down will create much more vacancy for units to rent. More vacancy = downward pressure on rents.

    There may be a bit of inflationary pressure to say the least due to the decline of the euro, but I just don't see how there's going to be an expansion of commercial activity that's going to bring along a scrap for units.

    I suppose it depends on what happens when eventually later this summer a large proportion of people are vaccinated. For people in their 20s and 30s who socialise in Camden Street Id say there will be no holding back once the pubs and clubs can re-open. Theres huge pent up demand in the economy and people have massive savings, once things re-open the street will be hopping just like before imo.

    Like I said empty units on Camden Street dont come up all that often, Im aware of one that when it did it had over 20 applications from various food businesses/chains to establish themselves on the street. So I dont see the Roma 2 being that hard to fill. Business people will be thinking about the long term, the first year might not be great but they'll be thinking about how well they'll do over 5, 10, 15 years, etc. The Roma itself must have been there 30+ years so it just shows how infrequently these sorts of opportunities come up.

    Im not saying this will be the case for all units and some streets will be slower than others to recover. But a unit in a prime location on a proven street like Camden wont have any problems getting rented out and likely at a higher rent than before as soon as the landlord sees the competition for it.


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    #81
    ligerdub
    Registered Users Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    I suppose it depends on what happens when eventually later this summer a large proportion of people are vaccinated. For people in their 20s and 30s who socialise in Camden Street Id say there will be no holding back once the pubs and clubs can re-open. Theres huge pent up demand in the economy and people have massive savings, once things re-open the street will be hopping just like before imo.

    Like I said empty units on Camden Street dont come up all that often, I'm aware of one that when it did it had over 20 applications from various food businesses/chains to establish themselves on the street. So I dont see the Roma 2 being that hard to fill. Business people will be thinking about the long term, the first year might not be great but they'll be thinking about how well they'll do over 5, 10, 15 years, etc. The Roma itself must have been there 30+ years so it just shows how infrequently these sorts of opportunities come up.

    Im not saying this will be the case for all units and some streets will be slower than others to recover. But a unit in a prime location on a proven street like Camden wont have any problems getting rented out and likely at a higher rent than before as soon as the landlord sees the competition for it.

    The whole market is interconnected. If there's downward trends in demand of retail units in general then even the most bustling street in the country will struggle to sustain a rate, outside of the currency losing value in general. The economy was relatively booming prior to last March. It's not going back to that, forget it. It's estimated that 25% of the country is in some way unemployed. Many people are doing well from the last 12 months, but many people are not.

    Many more people will be working from home anyway, and I suspect that many people will decide to leave Dublin entirely as it's not worth it financially to them.

    Bear in mind that we've been through 12 months of having most of those businesses locked down, many of them will not be returning. Even if things get back to normal the chance of that happening again will surely be in the minds of any retail unit with any sense. There's no way the value of such an arrangement isn't going to be damaged by that.

    I don't doubt these places will be replaced, but I can't see this positive scenario from coming through.


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    #82
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    La Pizza next door to the Savoy is gone.

    Not sure about Darwins on Aunger Street, the name is gone from one side of the building but is still there on the other side of it.


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    #83
    Caranica
    Registered Users Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    La Pizza next door to the Savoy is gone.

    It's over a year since I finished on Marlborough Street and that place was closed then.


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    #84
    CucaFace
    Registered Users Posts: 963 ✭✭✭CucaFace


    vafankillar wrote: »
    what places have you heard have closed or noticed have closed in dublin city in recent months during the lockdowns?


    was in town earlier and noticed 3 that look finished ( probably saw others too just these are fresh)

    eurostore up by stephens green

    amorino, the ice-cream place at entrance of stephens green

    O'Sheas restuarant/pub/hotel on talbot street had the sign gone and looked like it is gone for good (feel free to correct & i'll edit if not the case)


    I'd be very surprised if O'Shea's is shut down for good. They had recently put a lot of money into it and had created a really nice hidden beer garden there.



    They may (and im only guessing) have changed to accepting homeless people/refugee's in the hotel part to get through the last year as i have seen people going in and out of there and i can't see who else would be using the hotel in the last year.



    Maybe they have just closed the bar until normality has returned?


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    #85
    poisonated
    Registered Users Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭poisonated


    Might have already been mentioned but cineworld


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    #86
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,618 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Cineworld is 'shut for the duration', not guaranteed to be gone.


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    #87
    Galadriel
    Registered Users Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭Galadriel


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    La Pizza next door to the Savoy is gone.

    Not sure about Darwins on Aunger Street, the name is gone from one side of the building but is still there on the other side of it.

    Darwins downsized during the pandemic.


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    #88
    ongarboy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    US fashion giant Abercrombie & Fitch to close Dublin city centre flagship outlet

    https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/us-fashion-giant-abercrombie-and-fitch-to-close-dublin-city-centre-flagship-outlet-40165621.html

    Oh dear, confirmed by the media now!


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    #89
    Cienciano
    Registered Users Posts: 14,226 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Finally, some good news from the pandemic


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    #90
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Wonder will Lidl have a second attempt at renting that unit, iirc they wanted it before Abercrombie moved in


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    #91
    Thelonious Monk
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    I love lidl but do we really want a lidl in what may be a pedestrianised gorgeous area some day?


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