The Dublin skyline is ugly, why are we not building high rise for modern city?

The Irish problem with apartments comes from Ballymun towers, and the absolute mess that was made of them (largely by the inhabitants), and the snobbishness that has attached to all high rise apartments as a consequence. You'll usually find it's the 50/60 year olds going on about how "Irish people don't want apartments". There is also the crowd who don't understand that management fees pay for things like bins, gardens, building maintenance etc., and think somehow whatever is on the outside of an apartment appears by magic.

That attitude is changing quite fast I think - the Europeans coming over to work can't understand why they have to share in some dreary 3 bed in the suburbs, when they could be renting their own place in a high rise central to town with nice views. Younger people who perhaps don't want kids, or only want 1 or 2 are considering apartments with access to green spaces and playgrounds. There are lots of high quality apartment blocks being built, and many are suitable for downsizers - I'm increasingly seeing older people begin to consider whether they should sell the 4 bedroom which is mostly empty and they can't maintain, and move to an apartment.

Anyone remember the PDs plans for a high rise Dublin from 2006. They also suggested moving Dublin Port and concentrating high rise in the docklands. 13 years ago now and not much has changed.

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

When will people protest about the levels of motorised pollution allowed in the city? Crazy how much since the 1980's there's been a complete blank shown to actual monitoring of emissions killing people in the city. Back at that same era the illness of the day was acid rain damaging blockwork, what an utter kip we live in now with corrupt fookers governing it.

The EPA published a report today showing significant number of areas in Dublin are breaching the NO2 limits. NO2 is mainly produced by diesel exhausts and has real long term health impacts especially on the young and elderly. The M50 and Port Tunnel were the worst as you would expect, but the quays and Pearse street were also bad.

Just another reality of urban sprawl. Dublin needs a complete rethink and major investment in getting people living near where they work and a proper public transport system for those who don't.

Idbatterim wrote: »

"high rise" arent affordable, is one of the reasons I see for people objecting to it. So what? the low rise apartments being built in the docks already arent affordable for the masses. Why should people be stopped from living there, than want to and can afford to!

Lots of people don't think in 3 dimensional terms, it isn't obvious to them that providing accommodation for one cohort of the population takes the pressure off the rest of the market. You often get SF banging this drum depending on the ignorance of their voters.

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

We have 2 storey social housing around Lombard st opposite the IFSC ffs. What kind of moron made a decision to put them there?

Same in vast swathes of the inner city between O'Connell St and the point. Basically champion of the people Tony Gregory got everyone a 2 storey council house with back and front garden, making the area the lowest density it has been since the 16th century. Everyone else who was unfortunate enough to not be from the area was to commute from Kildare. It's the equivalent of Mr Burns getting into the 2 person bomb shelter and not letting Smithers in because he likes to put his feet up.

As silly as that rendering looks I believe the idea has merit.

That land is surrounded on three sides by water. It's close to the city centre, the office building developments around the point, and beside the 'silicon docks ' area.
It could provide accommodation for thousand of people who could walk / cycle to work.
It could provide public spaces like waterside walks. Opening up the Southbank in London was a tremendous success.
Dublin's most attractive feature is it's geographic location beside the sea and mountains. Any plan that increases access to the this for the public, while addressing issues like chronic housing shortage and catastrophically low density development should be explored.

Dublin is great but it's so backwards and lagging behind the rest of the modern world. It's so stupid having a sprawling city when most people need to commute to the centre. No wonder we have some of the worst traffic jams in Europe.

There are a huge amount of us that would love to live in a high-rise, no garden, but live close to work and not have to get a bus, tram or train in the morning. No. I have to live further out and commute on a bus where I'm not garunteed the bus can stop because it's full capacity.

Irish mentality when it comes to this stuff is usually about 50 years behind other first world countries. They what they'll do is this sham job of trying to keep up when it's far too late.

At least most of the stuff developed in the docklands, ****, low rise boxes, are commercial and can be redeveloped easily at some point! Its the waste of space residential rubbish they threw up, that if it isnt owned by a REIT etc, will probalby never be redeveloped in our lifetime.

The damage is done on much of the brownfield, lets just hope going forward its an improvement on the rubbish that has been foisted on this city, starting with the Irish glass bottle site!

Apollo House site got approval for extra 10 floor apartments.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/council-gives-green-light-to-21-storey-tower-on-former-apollo-house-site-1.4105981

good stuff, denser living in the city would make things better on so many levels, it's a no brainer, hopefully we start to cop on going forward

wakka12 wrote: »

Cant wait to see what Dublin has to offer in future with it's potential unlocked

In fairness wakkers they should have put the high rise in the docklands so that ship has sailed

wakka12 wrote: »

Yep, but could always start demolishing and densifying a few of the hideous low rise slabs that went up in the 90's and early 00's around the IFSC

I propose this stunner as tribute
https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.3491004,-6.2409963,3a,75y,226.22h,103.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLH-7qpVvHmvvytiUzBUvYw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

True dat, or all the social housing in the area, but you couldn't touch that with a barge pole, politically