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Major faux pas for FM104

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  • #32
    bfa1509
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭bfa1509


    So if he didn't have special needs, it would then have been ok for them to pull the piss out of a 4 year old? I don't really get it.


  • #33
    swampy353
    Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭swampy353


    TheLonelyOne wrote: »
    Even to firstly attempt to apologize via WhatsApp is pathetic.

    Originally Posted by frozenfrozen
    Ah is that dollar signs or euro signs above her head now

    Such a narrow minded comment to make. :mad:
    I am sure she is more concerned about her child's welfare than any financial compensation.

    They didn't apologise over WhatsApp. They rang her to apologise and basically said that they were taking the piss out of WhatsApp not out of the child.

    It's amazing in 30 odd posts there is not a single person who heard it go out live. Says plenty about the show and the station


  • #34
    kippy
    Registered Users Posts: 18,381 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    swampy353 wrote: »
    They didn't apologise over WhatsApp. They rang her to apologise and basically said that they were taking the piss out of WhatsApp not out of the child.

    It's amazing in 30 odd posts there is not a single person who heard it go out live. Says plenty about the show and the station
    Says more about the people commenting on it tbh(including myself).


  • #35
    turbocab
    Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭turbocab


    swampy353 wrote: »
    They didn't apologise over WhatsApp. They rang her to apologise and basically said that they were taking the piss out of WhatsApp not out of the child.

    It's amazing in 30 odd posts there is not a single person who heard it go out live. Says plenty about the show and the station

    trying to shock,but your right who is listening anyway,certainly not the youth or 20 somethings they have well migrated to all the other media platforms on there smartphones.


  • #36
    TheLonelyOne
    Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭TheLonelyOne


    swampy353 wrote: »
    They didn't apologise over WhatsApp. They rang her to apologise and basically said that they were taking the piss out of WhatsApp not out of the child.

    It's amazing in 30 odd posts there is not a single person who heard it go out live. Says plenty about the show and the station

    If you read the tweet you will see that they did in fact apologise via WhatsApp, then called her.

    As low as a snakes belly.


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  • #37
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    frozenfrozen wrote: »
    Ah is that dollar signs or euro signs above her head now

    Well done. You became that person.


  • #38
    ford fiesta
    Registered Users Posts: 3,422 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    I thought caller segments like this are pre-recorded during the songs / news / ad breaks? If so, would it not be screened by show producers first?


  • #39
    radiotrickster
    Registered Users Posts: 858 ✭✭✭radiotrickster


    ford fiesta wrote: »
    I thought caller segments like this are pre-recorded during the songs / news / ad breaks? If so, would it not be screened by show producers first?

    The producer might be off this week? Otherwise, it's definitely bad form from the producer as well.

    But they say in the tweets and statement that it's a voice message from WhatsApp so they might have just played it live on-air rather than pre-recording.

    Bad taste, either way. Not surprised though. I've heard a lot of stuff I haven't liked go out on that show over the years. Any time I've listened it's been like a reminder for why I don't.


  • #40
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    ford fiesta wrote: »
    I thought caller segments like this are pre-recorded during the songs / news / ad breaks? If so, would it not be screened by show producers first?

    Absolutely. I won a comp with a station under the same owners, and my voice message and call was played at least 5 mins later on air. Surely someone can’t give the ok to just play a WhatsApp straight away - anyone could send in anything.

    Whoever let it go to air will be in as much hot water at the station. They seem to be in damage limitation mode, the audio mustn’t be great if it’s gone. Surprisingly no playbacks of it circulating social media.


  • #41
    plodder
    Registered Users Posts: 7,120 ✭✭✭plodder


    frozenfrozen wrote: »
    Ah is that dollar signs or euro signs above her head now
    I doubt that. It's not the kind of incident that would give rise to $$ or €€ imo.

    Have to say, if I had to guess which station this happened on, I'd have said FM104 without hesitation.


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  • #42
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    All the same, it's probably better that we don't go down this rabbit-hole of legal speculation. Most of us aren't qualified to speculate.

    Let's try keep it on topic, and offer our reactions to the story. Thanks (Mod)


  • #43
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users Posts: 14,326 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    This popped up on my Twitter feed retailer but so far I haven't come across anyone online WWII had actually heard the subject call in question.


  • #44
    Jayesdiem
    Registered Users Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Jayesdiem


    FTB2021 wrote: »
    Absolutely. I won a comp with a station under the same owners, and my voice message and call was played at least 5 mins later on air. Surely someone can’t give the ok to just play a WhatsApp straight away - anyone could send in anything.

    Whoever let it go to air will be in as much hot water at the station. They seem to be in damage limitation mode, the audio mustn’t be great if it’s gone. Surprisingly no playbacks of it circulating social media.

    I wouldn’t necessarily agree with this. With nobody having heard the audio, most people seem to have decided it’s not great which creates this almost irrefutable perception that it isn’t. Playing it to disprove that notion will just land the station in hotter water as they’ll look defensive. Better to apologise and quickly move on as they seem to have done. The outrage here is ridiculous. The mother is p1ssed off and nobody knows if this is justified or not. Despite that, everybody else seems to have made up their mind on her behalf. For those who have, kindly turn down jury duty if you are ever called upon.


  • #45
    Count Hairyfoot
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭Count Hairyfoot


    Like everyone else I didn't hear it. You couldn't pay me to listen to FM104 or 98FM and one of the great things of living outside of Dublin is they don't reach this far. But, and this is all guesswork as I've never heard the show, Is this a long running segment? Do they generally have some, and I hate to even type the word, bants, with the kids who would call in - some gentle piss taking so they can fit in with the, again I'm guessing, wacky DJ pair - because it's all hilarious and throw away.

    If so, the onus is one the parent not to let the kid call in if they think there's going to be a problem. How is anyone involved with the show, reasonably, supposed to know that this kid is different from the hundreds of others they've probably had on? They apologized - case closed and everyone should move on. If you're genuinely offended by what happened - listen to another show.


  • #46
    3DataModem
    Registered Users Posts: 3,939 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    No more detailed statement will be made unless someone shows up with a recording. So for the moment the statements will be vague and the presenters will go to ground in the hopes nobody will pop up with the audio itself.


  • #47
    doc22
    Registered Users Posts: 852 ✭✭✭doc22


    Reminds me of Johnathon Ross situation when hardly anyone complained at first but certain people wanted to hear it to get outraged/complain


  • #48
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 12,973 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Maybe the station needs to be closed down.


  • #49
    blackvalley
    Registered Users Posts: 667 ✭✭✭blackvalley


    Until I actually hear it and be "absolutely outraged" by it ill just have to put up with being "absolutely outraged" that that they have deleted it . :rolleyes:


  • #50
    [Deleted User]
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Maybe the station needs to be closed down.

    Maybe! Cos, evidently, nobody listens to it.


  • #51
    TheLonelyOne
    Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭TheLonelyOne


    Count Hairyfoot wrote: »
    the onus is one the parent not to let the kid call in if they think there's going to be a problem. How is anyone involved with the show, reasonably, supposed to know that this kid is different from the hundreds of others they've probably had on?

    So now parent's need to police the innocence of their children. What type of adult must it take to blatantly mock a 4 year old child.


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  • #52
    FlubberJones
    Registered Users Posts: 892 ✭✭✭FlubberJones


    In fairness that "kids in the car" thing is absolute drivel, the only people interested in it are the parents of the kid actually speaking... I get into a panic state if I am unfortunate enough to have the radio on and this ****e starts... IMMEDIATE SWITCH OFF.

    Lets hope this daft scenario is enough to end the crap fest that it is


  • #53
    Count Hairyfoot
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭Count Hairyfoot


    TheLonelyOne wrote: »
    So now parent's need to police the innocence of their children. What type of adult must it take to blatantly mock a 4 year old child.

    You omitted my first paragraph for some reason. If that's what the show is like and that's what they do then Yes - it's on the parent if they let the kid dial in.


  • #54
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    Count Hairyfoot wrote: »
    If so, the onus is one the parent not to let the kid call in if they think there's going to be a problem. How is anyone involved with the show, reasonably, supposed to know that this kid is different
    Count Hairyfoot wrote: »
    You omitted my first paragraph for some reason. If that's what the show is like and that's what they do then Yes - it's on the parent if they let the kid dial in.
    So a parent of a child with disabilities should shield their child, i.e. not engage them for fear of mockery?

    It's the people who are mocking the child that are the problem ffs.

    I'm not saying that's what happened here, I simply don't know. But the principle is pretty fcuking straightforward.


  • #55
    Count Hairyfoot
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭Count Hairyfoot


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    So a parent of a child with disabilities should shield their child, i.e. not engage them for fear of mockery?

    It's the people who are mocking the child that are the problem ffs.

    I'm not saying that's what happened here, I simply don't know. But the principle is pretty fcuking straightforward.

    Don't see what's so difficult here. I've never heard the show but presumably the parent of the child has. If the other segments feature the DJs mocking the kids and having the craic or whatever you want to call it, why would the parent expect their child to be treated differently? Presumably no one on the show knew anything about any disability and treated the call as they've treated the others. If that's the show you chose to listen to, and that's the show you decide to let a 4 year old call, how is it anyone else's fault if you get exactly what everyone else gets?


  • #56
    TheLonelyOne
    Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭TheLonelyOne


    Count Hairyfoot wrote: »
    Don't see what's so difficult here. I've never heard the show but presumably the parent of the child has. If the other segments feature the DJs mocking the kids and having the craic or whatever you want to call it, why would the parent expect their child to be treated differently? Presumably no one on the show knew anything about any disability and treated the call as they've treated the others. If that's the show you chose to listen to, and that's the show you decide to let a 4 year old call, how is it anyone else's fault if you get exactly what everyone else gets?

    What is wrong with you... It's a 4 year old child ffs. The excitement of them getting to hear themselves on the radio and getting to say hello to their friend's and family must be a great delight. Tell me... Why should any child be treated in that way, disability or not? Clearly you have no compassion.


  • #57
    0ph0rce0
    Registered Users Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Did anyone actually here the thing or what?

    What I have in my head is the lads buzzing off the whatsapp like I hear when it's on every morning. Everyone knows what it's like trying to talk to a 4 year old child, they hum and haw, they stutter, they talk nonsense, the lispy words, the not pronouncing r's and so on, more cute than anything else.

    I'm not saying it's right at all to slag a child, but did they know he had a disability? Again not that it makes it right.

    Someone else posted it earlier, what if he didn't have a disability?


  • #58
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    Count Hairyfoot wrote: »
    Don't see what's so difficult here. I've never heard the show but presumably the parent of the child has. If the other segments feature the DJs mocking the kids and having the craic or whatever you want to call it, why would the parent expect their child to be treated differently?
    They don't want them treated differently. But nobody in their right mind thinks that mocking a disability, if that's what happened, is 'having the craic'.

    It's 2021, whether people like it or not. You can't just presume, when children are engaging with a radio programme, that a child with a disability would never want to participate. We're not shunting them off to residential schools or keeping them hidden, these days. They're as part of our society as you or I.

    No professional broadcaster can just make a presumption that a child, or any person, doesn't have a disability. In fact, there are probably posters on this forum with a disability. They deserve to be treated the same as anyone else, and pilloried if they come up with daft ideas on a thread... but never derided for an intrinsic quality, or an accident of birth, whatever you want to call it, which they cannot change.

    This is not very complicated.


  • #59
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,318 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    They don't want them treated differently. But nobody in their right mind thinks that mocking a disability, if that's what happened, is 'having the craic'.

    It's 2021, whether people like it or not. You can't just presume, when children are engaging with a radio programme, that a child with a disability would never want to participate. We're not shunting them off to residential schools or keeping them hidden, these days. They're as part of our society as you or I.

    No professional broadcaster can just make a presumption that a child, or any person, doesn't have a disability. In fact, there are probably posters on this forum with a disability. They deserve to be treated the same as anyone else, and pilloried if they come up with daft ideas on a thread... but never derided for an intrinsic quality, or an accident of birth, whatever you want to call it, which they cannot change.

    This is not very complicated.


    As someone with ASD, I would expect to find the funnier aspects of my disorder laughed at. I have seen this happening in the past too, for myself and other sufferers. It can be funny. I often say the wrong thing, when I'm not picking up on cues that others would. And from the outside it's funny. I get it. People with mental disorders should not be shunned away from society. My golden rule for humor is that either it's ok to laugh at everything, or nothing is ok to laugh at.


    This seems like a bit of a storm in a teacup, especially given the following factors:


    • The presenters were unaware the child had a disability
    • The woman's twitter handle would suggest she's , shall we say, a bit prone to woke-ism :p


  • #60
    Count Hairyfoot
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭Count Hairyfoot


    TheLonelyOne wrote: »
    What is wrong with you... It's a 4 year old child ffs. The excitement of them getting to hear themselves on the radio and getting to say hello to their friend's and family must be a great delight. Tell me... Why should any child be treated in that way, disability or not? Clearly you have no compassion.

    Here's the thing. I don't like horse racing - you know what I do? - I attend a different sporting event. I don't like this politician - you know what I do? - I vote for someone else. I don't like reality TV talent shows where millionaires get to mock members of the public - you know what I do? - I watch a different program. I don't like radio programs where kids call in and someone takes the mick out of them. You know what I do - I listen to something else. You know what I don't do - i don't let my kid call in and then get upset about them getting the same treatment everyone else gets.


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  • #61
    [Deleted User]
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    ELM327 wrote: »
    As someone with ASD, I would expect to find the funnier aspects of my disorder laughed at.
    The funnier aspects, sure. I am sure there are funny sides to any disability. And there are things -- say, involving a child -- that you don't mock on national radio.
    [*]The woman's twitter handle would suggest she's , shall we say, a bit prone to woke-ism
    It just says she's a socialist. People really need to google 'woke'. Probably the most misused word in the english dictionary.


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