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TP-Link Deco M5 Gigabit Whole Home WiFi System - Triple Pack - £102.21 Delivered (£

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    #32
    Aquos76
    Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,026 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    bidiots wrote: »
    Simply plug out ISP router and plug into Main Deco or is there more involved? Thanks

    You still need to use your existing modem. If you can hardwire all 3, then follow this setup and you will be sorted. Im on 360mb VM and I now get full wifi speeds everywhere in the house now and i get about 100-120mb outside in the back garden whereas before it was non existent out there.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114271957&postcount=19


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    #33
    bidiots
    Registered Users Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭bidiots


    Aquos76 wrote: »
    You still need to use your existing modem. If you can hardwire all 3, then follow this setup and you will be sorted. Im on 360mb VM and I now get full wifi speeds everywhere in the house now and i get about 100-120mb outside in the back garden whereas before it was non existent out there.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114271957&postcount=19

    The Ayatolla wrote: »
    Some ISPs (like Siro / Vodafone) would allow you to connect directly to the Deco as well. I did this. I don't have to use the router Vodafone provided. I can use the main Deco as my router and that's it. A lot cleaner and less cables / modems lying around.


    I can't hardwire mine, but the above from Ayatolla tweaked my interest. If you can bypass using the ISP modem then thats a cleaner setup for me. Just wondered if its simply a case of plugging out the ISP modem or are other steps needed


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    #34
    rodneytrotter15
    Registered Users Posts: 408 ✭✭rodneytrotter15


    Forgive my ignorance here but do these work wireless as well or must they be cable. Switching from Sky to Pure Telecom 1 gig on Tue and was going to try something similar to boost the signal out to the extended part of the house and help support signal for another Ring security camera at the rear of the house


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    #35
    stevegrace
    Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭stevegrace


    rodneytrotter15 wrote: »
    Forgive my ignorance here but do these work wireless as well or must they be cable. Switching from Sky to Pure Telecom 1 gig on Tue and was going to try something similar to boost the signal out to the extended part of the house and help support signal for another Ring security camera at the rear of the house

    I have 4 Deco m5 and all are connected wirelessly and they work great


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    #36
    stevegrace
    Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭stevegrace


    bidiots wrote: »
    I can't hardwire mine, but the above from Ayatolla tweaked my interest. If you can bypass using the ISP modem then thats a cleaner setup for me. Just wondered if its simply a case of plugging out the ISP modem or are other steps needed

    You need to keep your providers modem but you need to put it into bridge mode and then use the deco as the main modem plugged into your isp modem. It’s all fairly straightforward to do plenty of guides online.


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    #37
    Aquos76
    Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,026 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    stevegrace wrote: »
    I have 4 Deco m5 and all are connected wirelessly and they work great

    I tried that way but the WiFi speeds weren’t great, well 100-120mb which isn’t bad I guess, on a 360mb connection. It’s all to do with placement I guess, as I was able to run cables pretty easily, once I did, I was getting the max speed from each deco after that. The layout of each property has a lot to do with WiFi speeds also.


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    #38
    bidiots
    Registered Users Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭bidiots


    stevegrace wrote: »
    You need to keep your providers modem but you need to put it into bridge mode and then use the deco as the main modem plugged into your isp modem. It’s all fairly straightforward to do plenty of guides online.

    I know.
    That's how I have it setup currently.
    But my question relates to Ayotola stating you can remove the ISP modern and just use the Deco
    The Ayatolla wrote: »
    Some ISPs (like Siro / Vodafone) would allow you to connect directly to the Deco as well. I did this. I don't have to use the router Vodafone provided. I can use the main Deco as my router and that's it. A lot cleaner and less cables / modems lying around.


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    #39
    Aquos76
    Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,026 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    bidiots wrote: »
    I know.
    That's how I have it setup currently.
    But my question relates to Ayotola stating you can remove the ISP modern and just use the Deco

    I’m not familiar with Siro or FTTH BB, but you definitely can’t remove the Virgin Media Hub. My mother in law has FTTH from Vodafone and there is an Ethernet cable coming from a small white box on the wall in to the Vodafone modem when then gives her her land line and her BB. I’d be surprised if that Ethernet would work if plugged directly into the deco without going through the Vodafone modem, sure she’d have no phone line then.


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    #40
    Gooey Looey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    stevegrace wrote: »
    You need to keep your providers modem but you need to put it into bridge mode and then use the deco as the main modem plugged into your isp modem. It’s all fairly straightforward to do plenty of guides online.

    Ftth doesn't use a modem, you can replace the existing


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    #41
    Aquos76
    Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,026 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    Gooey Looey wrote: »
    Ftth doesn't use a modem, you can replace the existing

    Oh, that’s interesting, I assume that you lose access to your phone line if you do away with their modem


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    #42
    bidiots
    Registered Users Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭bidiots


    Gooey Looey wrote: »
    Ftth doesn't use a modem, you can replace the existing

    Do you need to contact Siro about this, I’m with Vodafone but want rid of its modem, directly connecting to the Deco does not work so I’m assuming I need to contact Siro/Voda to approve this somehow?


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    #43
    Gooey Looey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    bidiots wrote: »
    Do you need to contact Siro about this, I’m with Vodafone but want rid of its modem, directly connecting to the Deco does not work so I’m assuming I need to contact Siro/Voda to approve this somehow?

    Not sure on Siro but if you contact them like any of them they'll say they don't support third party equipment and will be of no help


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    #44
    Oat23
    Registered Users Posts: 15,171 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    The deco is a really good product but seriously lacking in features. For example, you still cannot manually choose a wifi channel on it. They have an algorithm which is supposed to select the best channel automatically but it's laughably bad. Mine is currently using channel 9 for 2.4GHz which is literally the worst channel it could have chosen.

    For the past 18 months people have been begging them to fix it and make it possible to manually change the channel but so far all we've got is "This feature request has been forwarded to the developers."

    If simple settings like being able to change the wifi channel are important to you, then avoid.


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    #45
    The Ayatolla
    Registered Users Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭The Ayatolla


    bidiots wrote: »
    I know.
    That's how I have it setup currently.
    But my question relates to Ayotola stating you can remove the ISP modern and just use the Deco

    Just spotted this.

    You just need to configure the main Deco upon setup as PPPOE.

    Use these settings:

    Username: [SERIALNUMBEROFVODAFONEROUTER]@vfieftth.ie
    Password: broadband
    VLANID (custom): 10

    Example of username is below (similar to my own but with random numbers put in)

    E1909CM123456789@vfieftth.ie


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    #46
    bidiots
    Registered Users Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭bidiots


    The Ayatolla wrote: »
    Just spotted this.

    You just need to configure the main Deco upon setup as PPPOE.

    Use these settings:

    Username: [SERIALNUMBEROFVODAFONEROUTER]@vfieftth.ie
    Password: broadband
    VLANID (custom): 10

    Example of username is below (similar to my own but with random numbers put in)

    E1909CM123456789@vfieftth.ie

    Gent and a scholar.
    Does priority number matter for VLan? Between 0 and 7, I've just set to 1


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    #47
    The Ayatolla
    Registered Users Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭The Ayatolla


    bidiots wrote: »
    Gent and a scholar.
    Does priority number matter for VLan? Between 0 and 7, I've just set to 1

    Nah all good, I have mine as 0 (zero).


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    #48
    ton3181
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭ton3181


    Hi folks, can anyone confirm if the M5 works well with Sky Q router and Sky Q mini boxes?


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    #49
    The Ayatolla
    Registered Users Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭The Ayatolla


    ton3181 wrote: »
    Hi folks, can anyone confirm if the M5 works well with Sky Q router and Sky Q mini boxes?

    Sure does. It'll work with more or less any decent fixed-line broadband.


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    #50
    MarkR
    Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    MarkR wrote: »
    I set up an alert on hotukdeals with the word "mesh". Something will turn up.

    Mine arrived yesterday. As expected, had EU plugs, but I got some adapters in Dealz.

    I've block walls throughout the house, and this seems to be working well. One in the sitting room, one in the home office (other side of wall), and another on other side of house in kids play room. Broadband speed is 250 down in living room, 120 in office, and about 40 in the play room, and the signal has to go through two walls to get there!

    I had hoped to have one in the attic, but the signal from there (which I'd hoped would pass through ceilings better than walls) seemed poor.

    So far, happy with purchase.

    Another point or two. I have a node on my desk, where I work, and I had been connecting wirelessly using my laptop. I idly plugged in an ethernet cable, to see if there was a difference. Got 207 mb down. Given that the node is right next to my laptop, I hadn't expected such a large difference, but wired is always king I guess.

    I also tested the parental controls from my sons laptop. It's more to protect against accidental loading of porn, but it worked pretty well. The pages just refuse to load. No warnings in the app or anything, but effective.


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    #51
    ton3181
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭ton3181


    The Ayatolla wrote: »
    Sure does. It'll work with more or less any decent fixed-line broadband.

    Thanks. I was/am still a little concerned after reading a number of Sky Community forum posts about Sky Q and Sky mini boxes not working unless connected to the Deco by ethernet. Something about two mesh systems confusing themselves... My system is Sky Broadband, Sky Q and one Sky Mini.


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    #52
    MarkR
    Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    ton3181 wrote: »
    Thanks. I was/am still a little concerned after reading a number of Sky Community forum posts about Sky Q and Sky mini boxes not working unless connected to the Deco by ethernet. Something about two mesh systems confusing themselves... My system is Sky Broadband, Sky Q and one Sky Mini.

    I have virgin media, Sky Q, and Sky Mini. One thing I did notice was that they all needed to be in the same section of the network, (subnet).

    Virgin router is 192.168.0.1. Deco subnet is 192.168.168.whatever. If you had your sky q wired to your Virgin media, then you wouldn't be able to find it if your sky mini was on another subnet (from being connected via deco).

    Not a big thing for most, and would be eliminated I think if you went to bridge mode on the modem.


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    #53
    The Ayatolla
    Registered Users Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭The Ayatolla


    From my experience and research, attics are a poor place for a router / mesh device. A lot of external factors, but generally the temperature of an attic doesn't play well with regular operating conditions for a router; insulation can cause the signal strength to decrease.

    I thought an attic would be a great place (routers out of sight, large open space, only plasterboard from ceiling separating etc) but unfortunately it isn't.


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    #54
    richardw001
    Registered Users Posts: 575 ✭✭✭richardw001


    The Ayatolla wrote: »
    Yep I've the M4 and it uses ethernet backhaul too.

    £99 on Amazon.co.uk but currently OOS.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Deco-M4-Seamless-Coverage-Replacement/dp/B07NH1J543/ref=sxts_sxwds-bia-wc-p13n1_0?cv_ct_cx=tp-link+mesh&dchild=1&keywords=tp-link+mesh&pd_rd_i=B07NH1J543&pd_rd_r=590d5c1b-df42-4df1-9f67-d4cd3c6e7a36&pd_rd_w=Qp0q4&pd_rd_wg=JQRB0&pf_rd_p=9b1a9511-9af9-4d06-8643-d54ebec511ef&pf_rd_r=G079PTM82A9ZQ48ZRCBM&psc=1&qid=1597018549&sr=1-1-fdbae751-0fa5-4c0f-900b-865654896618

    Big difference between ethernet and powerline backhaul.

    Anyone try the M4 with powerline adapters for the backhaul ?

    What I'm wondering is can you plug one side into a modem and the other into a homeplug network with the other M4s (for backhaul) and additional wired devices on the same homeplug network ?


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    #55
    billbond4
    Registered Users Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭billbond4


    yeah i did that with the Passthrough Powerline Starter Kit (TL-PA8010P Kit)
    My speeds via wireless were a bit better, but you wont really know until you try it in your own house, as it will all depending on your wiring
    If your a gamer the latency was reduced with the Powerline adapters
    so wireless approx 120MBs to a mobile
    powereline approx 100MBs to a mobile


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    #56
    sd12322
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭sd12322


    For anyone interested the Deco S4 is £110 on Amazon UK right now, seems to be a newer version of the M4 with some additional features


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    5500
    Registered Users Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭5500


    I think the only difference between m4 and s4 is its slightly smaller and accepts custom firmware (someone with more knowledge might chime in on the benefit of this) but other spec and feature wise they are the same


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    #58
    ton3181
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭ton3181


    Has anyone any experience of the BT Whole Home Wi-Fi, (Pack of 3 Discs)? £170 on Amazon. Appears to get very positive reviews across the water and in current edition of PC Pro (as compared to the TP-Link M5).


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    The Ayatolla
    Registered Users Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭The Ayatolla


    I'd go with the cheaper TP-Link M4/S4 to be honest. There's not a lot of difference in these products for the average consumer.

    I've used the M4's not for about 3-4 months and honestly it's probably the best ~120euro investment I put into the house! Using it with Siro / Vodafone as the ISP.


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    gabbo is coming
    Registered Users Posts: 960 ✭✭✭gabbo is coming


    sd12322 wrote: »
    For anyone interested the Deco S4 is £110 on Amazon UK right now, seems to be a newer version of the M4 with some additional features

    Will this support gigabit broadband?


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    #61
    The Ayatolla
    Registered Users Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭The Ayatolla


    gabbo is coming wrote: »
    Will this support gigabit broadband?

    Yeah, it has 2x gigabit ports on it.


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