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Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

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    #3032
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    Hmmm, no it's not.

    So we know this guy is antifa. We know he was looking closely at the el paso shooting this guy gets revenge in his head.

    Dresses up in his little antifa uniform grabs his gun and shoots up a country western pub.

    Pure coincidence his sister and her boyfriend were there.


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    #3033
    p1akuw47h5r3it
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    hill16bhoy wrote: »
    Donald Trump, the Republican party and Tucker Carlson and Fox News couldn't be more mainstream.

    Open your eyes instead of denying the blatantly obvious truth.

    "White nationalism" is a politically correct term for white supremacism.

    Sure why don't you open your eyes and accept the blatantly obvious re Antifa? A militant group out to cause as much havoc as possible under the guise of "fighting" White nationalism/supremacists. A terrorist organisation they are.


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    #3034
    hill16bhoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭hill16bhoy


    DanDan6592 wrote: »
    I'd imagine they are reporting it so people like you can't claim it as another White supremacist committing an atrocity, in order to proclaim white nationalism "mainstream".

    What has Warren got to do with the Dayton mass murder?

    And what has Antifa got to do with it?

    The answer in both cases, my friend, is absolutely nothing.

    Whereas white supremacism, as practised by Donald Trump and the wider Republican party, Tucker Carlson and Fox News has everything to do with inciting hate filled murderers like the one in El Paso.


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    #3035
    Billy Mays
    Registered Users Posts: 3,184 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    hill16bhoy wrote: »
    Antifa had nothing to do with the Dayton shooting

    That is a fact


    Hmmm, no it's not.

    So we know this guy is antifa. We know he was looking closely at the el paso shooting this guy gets revenge in his head.

    Dresses up in his little antifa uniform grabs his gun and shoots up a country western pub.
    Yes it is

    One of the 9 victims was his sister

    6 of the 9 victims were African American

    Now can you show me whereabouts in the Antifa handbook it says to target members of your own family and African Americans

    Right wingers are desperate to link this shooting to Antifa just because the El Paso shooter was inspired by white supremacy and they want to level thinks up

    It's quite pathetic really


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    #3036
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    20Cent wrote: »
    Pure coincidence his sister and her boyfriend were there.

    He probably didn't like her.


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    #3037
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    He probably didn't like her.

    Shooting her would indicate that to be true.


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    #3038
    hill16bhoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭hill16bhoy


    DanDan6592 wrote: »
    Sure why don't you open your eyes and accept the blatantly obvious re Antifa? A militant group out to cause as much havoc as possible under the guise of "fighting" White nationalism/supremacists. A terrorist organisation they are.
    Antifa are an anti-fascist group. They are what it says on the tin. They carry no existential threat whatsoever and bear no resemblance to a terrorist group.

    Now, given that you're so quick to attempt a bat and switch, why are not focussing on what is by far the main terrorist threat in the US, white supremacism?

    You seem very intent on deflecting attention away from it and those who incite and embolden it, like Donald Trump, the Republican party, Tucker Carlson and Fox News.

    You seem very reluctant to admit that these inciters and emboldeners of white supremacism are mainstream, despite them being the very mainstream of the mainstream.

    Now we can guess why that is, but sure why don't you tell us why you're so intent on trying to deflect away from the white supremacist threat yourself?


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    #3039
    hill16bhoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭hill16bhoy


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    Hmmm, no it's not.

    So we know this guy is antifa. We know he was looking closely at the el paso shooting this guy gets revenge in his head.

    Dresses up in his little antifa uniform grabs his gun and shoots up a country western pub.

    You're literally repeating an outright lie pushed by far right propaganda sources here.

    What kind of person knowingly repeats an outright lie pushed by the far right?


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    #3040
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    Yes it is

    One of the 9 victims was his sister

    6 of the 9 victims were African American

    Millions of Hitlers victims were white.


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    #3041
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    hill16bhoy wrote: »
    You're literally repeating an outright lie pushed by far right propaganda sources here.

    What kind of person knowingly repeats an outright pushed by the far right?

    Where am I lying?


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    #3042
    Woodsie1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    hill16bhoy wrote: »
    Antifa are an anti-fascist group. They are what it says on the tin. They carry no existential threat whatsoever and bear no resemblance to a terrorist group.

    Now, given that you're so quick to attempt a bat and switch, why are not focussing on what is by far the main terrorist threat in the US, white supremacism?

    You seem very intent on deflecting attention away from it and those who incite and embolden it, like Donald Trump, the Republican party, Tucker Carlson and Fox News.

    You seem very reluctant to admit that these inciters and emboldeners of white supremacism are mainstream, despite them being the very mainstream of the mainstream.

    Now we can guess why that is, but sure why don't you tell us why you're so intent on trying to deflect away from the white supremacist threat yourself?

    Checks thread title....Yep it defo says Antifa.
    Antifa cheerleaders all getting angry about white supremacists is deflecting from the thread topic,not the other way around.


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    #3043
    hill16bhoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭hill16bhoy


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    Where am I lying?
    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    We know he was looking closely at the el paso shooting this guy gets revenge in his head.

    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    Dresses up in his little antifa uniform grabs his gun and shoots up a country western pub.
    The bolded bits there are both outright lies.

    You know them to not be true, and yet you've gone ahead and lied anyway.

    That makes you a liar.


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    #3044
    p1akuw47h5r3it
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    hill16bhoy wrote: »
    Antifa are an anti-fascist group. They are what it says on the tin. They carry no existential threat whatsoever and bear no resemblance to a terrorist group.

    Now, given that you're so quick to attempt a bat and switch, why are not focussing on what is by far the main terrorist threat in the US, white supremacism?

    You seem very intent on deflecting attention away from it and those who incite and embolden it, like Donald Trump, the Republican party, Tucker Carlson and Fox News.

    You seem very reluctant to admit that these inciters and emboldeners of white supremacism are mainstream, despite them being the very mainstream of the mainstream.

    Now we can guess why that is, but sure why don't you tell us why you're so intent on trying to deflect away from the white supremacist threat yourself?
    I literally posted about 2 pages back how white supremacists are the biggest terror threat in America. Look at 20cents Post about Tucker Carlson and my response.

    I'm not deflecting from anything. This whole thread is about Antifa, and not white supremacists, incase you haven't noticed. Have you read the thread title?

    And no I don't believe that White supremism is "mainstream".


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    #3045
    p1akuw47h5r3it
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Checks thread title....Yep it defo says Antifa.
    Antifa cheerleaders all getting angry about white supremacists is deflecting from the thread topic,not the other way around.

    Precisely.


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    #3046
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    hill16bhoy wrote: »
    The bolded bits there are both outright lies.

    You know them to not be true, and yet you've gone ahead and lied anyway.

    That makes you a liar.

    Afraid not hillyboy.

    I can just as easy say that you are a liar.


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    #3047
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Checks thread title....Yep it defo says Antifa.
    Antifa cheerleaders all getting angry about white supremacists is deflecting from the thread topic,not the other way around.

    You can't really discuss antifa without mentioning who they are fighting against.


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    #3048
    Billy Mays
    Registered Users Posts: 3,184 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Mad that the police and the FBI are still working on the motive for the Dayton shootings. Obviously the alt bright posters on Boards.ie know more than they do


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    #3049
    p1akuw47h5r3it
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    20Cent wrote: »
    You can't really discuss antifa without mentioning who they are fighting against.

    Maybe you can't, but what you can't do is accuse people of whataboutery or trying to deflect attention from something else by mentioning Antifa, when the whole thread is about that very group.


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    #3050
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    DanDan6592 wrote: »
    Maybe you can't, but what you can't do is accuse people of whataboutery or trying to deflect attention from something else by mentioning Antifa, when the whole thread is about that very group.

    Report that to a mod then.

    Sure looks like an attempt to derail the thread tbh.


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    #3051
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    Billy Mays wrote:
    Now can you show me whereabouts in the Antifa handbook it says to target members of your own family and African Americans

    Antifa would have no issue targeting your own family and African Americans if they didn't agree that everyone they disagree with is a white supremacist.

    Tucker Carlson, while I don't always agree with him is not a white supremacist. Gavin McInness says a lot of controversial things but is not a white supremacist (I believe someone commented that he was trying to indoctrinate his native American wife haha)


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    #3052
    snowblind
    Registered Users Posts: 972 ✭✭✭snowblind


    DanDan6592 wrote: »
    All violence is bad.
    Ya think mass murdering minorities is worse than punching someone tho? Or is it literally exactly the same thing?


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    #3053
    snowblind
    Registered Users Posts: 972 ✭✭✭snowblind


    SexBobomb wrote: »
    What nazi's man ? Besides one group of pricks in Charlottesville, where are they ?
    I genuinely don't think there is any substantive number of these people in America.
    Breivik, New Zealand, The one last week, countless others. They have written their delusional nazi pamphlets before their mass murders, if you haven't done the research maybe you don't have an informed opinion. They're nazis, they want to eradicate human populations based on their skin colour and/or birth country. Sounds like it's all cool with you.


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    #3054
    snowblind
    Registered Users Posts: 972 ✭✭✭snowblind


    Ironicname wrote: »
    There's the problem with Antifa. Anything to the right of their way of thinking can be labelled as Naziism

    There's a lot of nazism around though. People like you try to pretend nazis don't exist. That's not really useful, as we all know they do, and they are violent. They are actually violent, murdering people. You seem to try to claim they don't exist because you like what they are doing. Meanwhile antifa members have a couple punches in their "violence" in the last couple years. Sounds like quite innocent compared to Breivik style mass murder of "degenerate" people (this term comes directly from Nazi ideology)


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    #3055
    snowblind
    Registered Users Posts: 972 ✭✭✭snowblind


    20Cent wrote: »
    Linking him to antifa is exactly the propaganda message the far right are sending out.
    And people say propaganda doesn't work.

    Well Danzy is known to propagate nazi propaganda here. It's his schtick. He won't consider any articles that aren't from Stormfront or Breitbart or Fox :pac:


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    #3056
    snowblind
    Registered Users Posts: 972 ✭✭✭snowblind


    hill16bhoy wrote: »
    "Supposedly" now equals truth, or something something

    Says a lot, doesn't it

    Antifa had nothing to do with the Dayton shooting

    That is a fact

    DanDan is trying to distract from nazi violence, because he is uncomfortable with nazis being criticized.


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    #3057
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,632 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Ironicname wrote: »
    Antifa would have no issue targeting your own family and African Americans if they didn't agree that everyone they disagree with is a white supremacist.

    Tucker Carlson, while I don't always agree with him is not a white supremacist. Gavin McInness says a lot of controversial things but is not a white supremacist (I believe someone commented that he was trying to indoctrinate his native American wife haha)
    Everything you just said is utter bull.


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    #3058
    snowblind
    Registered Users Posts: 972 ✭✭✭snowblind


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    Hmmm, no it's not.

    So we know this guy is antifa. We know he was looking closely at the el paso shooting this guy gets revenge in his head.

    Dresses up in his little antifa uniform grabs his gun and shoots up a country western pub.

    You have no proof yet you continue to claim this. Clearly to drown out the fact based nazi mass murder news. Seems like you don't want the fact to be out there because you support the ideology the murderers have abused to murder innocent people in numbers.


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    #3059
    snowblind
    Registered Users Posts: 972 ✭✭✭snowblind


    DanDan6592 wrote: »
    Sure why don't you open your eyes and accept the blatantly obvious re Antifa? A militant group out to cause as much havoc as possible under the guise of "fighting" White nationalism/supremacists. A terrorist organisation they are.

    Yet you haven't called the white nationalists terrorists, weird innit?

    Wanna list some terrorist attacks by Antifa where they killed people? I've been asking this but it seems like......you can't find one. How are they terrorist. You don't like them because they oppose the good ol fascist boys?


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    #3060
    snowblind
    Registered Users Posts: 972 ✭✭✭snowblind


    hill16bhoy wrote: »
    You're literally repeating an outright lie pushed by far right propaganda sources here.

    What kind of person knowingly repeats an outright lie pushed by the far right?
    A supporter of white natioalists who murder people. It's all deflection, distraction, and complete lack of criticism of a continuing mass murder project by white nationalists, one that has been recognized by FBI for a while now.

    While the Antifa who hasn't been killed people, is supposed to be even worse.

    In 30s germany many people defended the Nazis and claimed jewish people are the real criminals. These people are caught up in the same cycle of hate.


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    #3061
    snowblind
    Registered Users Posts: 972 ✭✭✭snowblind


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Checks thread title....Yep it defo says Antifa.
    Antifa cheerleaders all getting angry about white supremacists is deflecting from the thread topic,not the other way around.
    It's not. Antifa opposes those murderers. People like you ignore those murderers while blaming Antifa without any proof of them being "terrorists". You propagate nazi propaganda while not accepting the reality where we are living.


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