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Are Unionists/Loyalists Irish?

  • 18-08-2013 5:48pm
    #1
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭


    I'm not talking about the very rare 'lesser spotted' southern Unionist here - I'm on about those that live across the imaginary line in the 6 counties.

    What say ye?

    Are Unionists/Loyalists Irish? 9 votes

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    No.
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  • #2
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Its a real line, or that's what the speed limit signs tell me. Not to mention the health and education standards.


  • #3
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    No, British - because that's how they identify themselves. A small few consider themselves Irish also, which is cool if that's what they identify themselves as.


  • #4
    Sauve
    Registered Users Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    Cathal Cloch wrote: »
    I'm not talking about the very rare 'lesser spotted' southern Unionist here - I'm on about those that live across the imaginary line in the 6 counties.

    What say ye?

    Seeing as they consider themselves British, I'll go with that too.


  • #5
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    mike65 wrote: »
    Its a real line, or that's what the speed limit signs tell me.

    Could you get a picture of it for me from google earth because I can't seem to locate it.

    Thanks.


  • #6
    pablomakaveli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    Northern Irish but if they want to consider themselves British or Irish it's up to them.


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  • #7
    mattjack
    Registered Users Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Cathal Cloch wrote: »
    I'm not talking about the very rare 'lesser spotted' southern Unionist here - I'm on about those that live across the imaginary line in the 6 counties.

    What say ye?

    No Cathal ,they,re actually French .


  • #8
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    mattjack wrote: »
    No Cathal ,they,re actually French .

    So they're not Irish?


  • #9
    Toby Take a Bow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    mike65 wrote: »
    Its a real line, or that's what the speed limit signs tell me. Not too mention the health and education standards.

    No, it's an imaginary line. Similar to other borders.

    Loyalists can identify as whomever they want to identify with. Geographically speaking, however, they are technically Irish.


  • #10
    Derrydoc
    Registered Users Posts: 36 ✭Derrydoc


    If they chose to be then yes.


  • #11
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    mike65 wrote: »
    Not to mention the health and education standards.

    What of them? Credible sources please if you're going to make bold claims.


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  • #12
    RayM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Nominally British. Much of their culture, however, is "British" in the same way as an Irish themed bar in Boston is "Irish".


  • #13
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    No, British

    How could they be British though? Britain is the land mass to the east of Ireland.

    They've been born on the land mass to the west of Britain known as 'Ireland'.


  • #14
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Cathal Cloch wrote: »
    How could they be British though? Britain is the land mass to the east of Ireland.

    They've been born on the land mass to the west of Britain known as 'Ireland'.
    Northern Ireland is part of Britain though - whether I like that or not, it's a fact.


  • #15
    Qualitymark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,824 ✭✭✭Qualitymark


    Dunno if this is still so, but it used to be that a lot of unionists identified themselves as Irish people who were citizens of the United Kingdom.
    As far as I'm concerned, someone's Irish who lives in Ireland and works to make it the best place it can be.


  • #16
    galwayrush
    Registered Users Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    They have a choice .


  • #17
    Galaxie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭Galaxie


    Cathal Cloch wrote: »
    How could they be British though? Britain is the land mass to the east of Ireland.

    They've been born on the land mass to the west of Britain known as 'Ireland'.

    United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

    Calling them United Kingdomers is a bit of a mouthful, so I'm happy enough to call them British.


  • #18
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    Northern Ireland is part of Britain though - whether I like that or not, it's a fact.

    Nope.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10


  • #19
    shleedance
    Registered Users Posts: 240 ✭✭shleedance


    If you define it by where they're born and have been living (ie what island they're on), they're technically Irish. Culturally, that's a more confusing matter.


  • #20
    Sauve
    Registered Users Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    Cathal Cloch wrote: »
    How could they be British though? Britain is the land mass to the east of Ireland.

    They've been born on the land mass to the west of Britain known as 'Ireland'.

    Ah here -will ya stop that :p


  • #21
    Vicar in a tutu
    Registered Users Posts: 901 ✭✭✭Vicar in a tutu


    If they were born in Northern Ireland I'd consider them Irish :P


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  • #22
    jethro081
    Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭jethro081


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    Northern Ireland is part of Britain though - whether I like that or not, it's a fact.

    no it's not. It's part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, or the UK. It is not part of Britain though.
    (if you want to get into semantics, it is part of the geographical entity known as the British Isles though)


  • #23
    Zebra3
    Registered Users Posts: 13,848 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    Northern Ireland is part of Britain though - whether I like that or not, it's a fact.

    Part of the UK, not part of Britain.

    Britain consists of England, Scotland, and Wales.

    Why is that so difficult for some many people to understand? :confused:


  • #24
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Quit yer trollin' cathal!


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