Minor Tournaments Discussion 2018/19.

Inviere · 15-11-2018 6:31pm

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

Neil Robertson and Jack Lisowski out. 32 down to 16...

Top half of draw:

Ali Carter v Eden Sharav
Li Hang v Peter Ebdon
Judd Trump v Luca Brecel
Ryan Day v Andrew Higginson

Bottom half of draw:

Ronnie O'Sullivan v Zhou Yuelong
Lu Ning v David Gilbert
Thepchaiya Un-Nooh v Robbie Williams
Martin O'Donnell v Mark Selby

No time for Carter or Trump. I'd imagine an O'Sullivan - Selby semi final is a possibility, with Carter/Day - Trump in the other one. Would love to see Thepchaiya do well.

zuutroy · 15-11-2018 9:08pm

Ronnie is still just ludicrously good. 18 best of 7s in a row. I don't think he has the head for the Crucible anymore though. I wonder behind the pressure deflecting persona does it eat him that he'll probably not get past Hendry.

Joe_ Public · 15-11-2018 11:34pm

Thepchaiya a workmanlike 37 minutes to book his qf place tonight. Don’t know if that’s some kind of record. Cant be far off anyway.

El_Duderino 09 · 16-11-2018 12:13pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Kevin Finnerty wrote: »

Some going trying to beat a 10 second shot time average... he averaged just under 14. Very hard to watch Selby Hamilton after that performance from o Sullivan.

That’s an incredible shot average. I find it very hard to watch Selby when there are much more exciting players out there.

Selby’s good, no doubt. But he’s hard to watch.

I watched Selby V Hamsa Akbar last night and I have to say Selby was good to watch. He attacked and his shot time average was 18 seconds.

I don’t know if he would have been so aggressive if he was playing better opponent. But I have to admit he was good to watch.

El_Duderino 09 · 16-11-2018 12:17pm

Jack Lisowski has slipped under the radar for me. I didn’t have any idea he’s so highly ranked. He’s on the edge of the top 16. Must keep a closer eye on him. He lost 4-0 to Trump last night but he must be doing well elsewhere.

Joe_ Public · 16-11-2018 1:11pm

Lisowski is talented no question and great to watch but has a few flaws in his game so will be interesting to see how far he can go over the next few years. Humiliated by Higgins at the crucible but maybe he can learn from those setbacks and get stronger.

It’s a bit ominous for the game that, after Lisowski, there really isn’t a single young promising UK snooker player, unless you want to include the likes of Ant McGill. But in the teens, early 20s, there’s really nothing at all. And, sadly, as far as here is concerned, a barren wasteland. A lot resting on the likes of Allen, Lisowski and Trump next few years I believe.

zuutroy · 16-11-2018 2:18pm

Found it amazing that one of the great young Chinese talents struggled clear the colours virtually off their spots twice last night.

Joe_ Public · 16-11-2018 3:02pm

The Chinese are producing in quantity for sure but whether they can match that with requisite quality remains to be seen. Couple of promising young players there but might take another generation I think before we see a genuine superstar or even another Ding.

ArmaniJeanss · 17-11-2018 1:58pm

Ronnie v Selby semi-final 1 o'clock this afternoon Eurosport.

zuutroy · 17-11-2018 5:49pm

:eek:

That is all.

Inviere · 17-11-2018 6:14pm

zuutroy wrote: »

:eek:

That is all.

Missed it, what happened?

Peter File · 17-11-2018 6:24pm

Final frame decider was amazing, so much tension, flukes, horrible snookers. It was worthy of being a final. I expect Trump to win easily tonight. O'Sullivan v Trump would be a great final as there seems to be some tension between them now.

Joe_ Public · 17-11-2018 6:25pm

Just a dramatic ending. Selby had ronnie in tough snooker, looked game over, but ronnie not only hit red but fluked it and cleared up.

Sounded a bit wired in post match interview too. Head a bit wrecked by all that perhaps.

ziggyman17 · 17-11-2018 7:01pm

Snooker.....Bloody hell.....:cool:

Ultimate Seduction · 17-11-2018 7:19pm

Wow what a clearance under those circumstances. Some of the pots after the fluke weren't that straight forward either. That really stung Selby

zuutroy · 17-11-2018 8:19pm

I was stunned when he missed the black off the spot. So out of character. Be some fun if they meet again this season.

Joe_ Public · 18-11-2018 9:58pm

Exciting finish in store here. Been a real slugfest with neither player conceding an inch. Trumps safety been a revelation today for me.

Arthur Daley · 18-11-2018 10:11pm

Trump looks very comfortable in his play at the moment. Very natural. Seems to working a bit on the mental game. Hope he goes and wins it.

But he has been such an inconsistent performer these last few years, will miss a sitter when he is in a strong position. Frustrating. If he can fix that it can all still open up for him.

Arthur Daley · 18-11-2018 10:12pm

Beautiful long yellow from Ronnie earlier. Around the angles for perfect position on the red beside the black. Been a good game this for sure.

Joe_ Public · 18-11-2018 10:27pm

One thing about trump, he’s never been intimidated by Ronnie as a few other players have been. His head to head record is very decent and maybe about to get better. Has to finish the job though.

Frank O. Pinion · 19-11-2018 9:31am

Great win for Trump, secures his place for the Champion of Champions next year, too.

After the Northern Ireland Open, here's the Top 16 ranked players, so far for the 2018/19 season:

1. Mark Selby
2. Mark Allen
3. Mark Williams
4. Neil Robertson
5. Judd Trump
6. David Gilbert
7. Jack Lisowski
8. Jimmy Robertson
9. Stuart Bingham
10. John Higgins
11. Joe Perry
12. Barry Hawkins
13. Mark Davis
14. Ali Carter (tied at #14)
14. Ryan Day (tied at #14)
16. Zhao Xintong

Top 7 have all earned over £100,000/ranking points. Ronnie is currently ranked #21.

UK Championship starts next Tuesday, 27th November.

Frank O. Pinion · 10-12-2018 10:28am

After his UK Championship win, Ronnie moves up from #21, to the #2 ranked player for the season. UK runner-up, Mark Allen is #1 for the season.

But the tour moves on today to Glasgow for the 2018 Scottish Open, the last event of the year. Like the other "Home Nations" events, it's best-of-7s until the quarter-finals, and top prize is £70,000. Of the "big 4" of Selby and the class of '92, Selby is skipping the tournament as he usually does with the Scottish Open to "prepare" for The Masters, Mark Williams is on holiday, Ronnie withdrew from his match with Daniel Wells today, who gets a bye into Round 2, but John Higgins is playing.

Neil Robertson is the defending champion, playing Peter Lines in the opening round. Last year's runner-up, Cao Yupeng, is currently serving a ban from the sport.

Coverage starts today on EuroSport and Quest, final is next Sunday.

Arthur Daley · 10-12-2018 10:58am

See the situation with Selby shows why Ronnie was just stirring things up with this breakaway tour stuff. The World number 1 on the full ranking list gets knocked out of the UK early. So he doesn't play from late November until all the way up to the 15th of January.....

Now that's a fair lay off to get over the tough few months travelling to China and back a few times during September/October/November

Arthur Daley · 10-12-2018 11:11am

Ronnie himself has just withdrawn from Glasgow. So he can put his feet up until mid January now. That is a fair break to be fully recharged for the second half of the season, but not lose form.

Frank O. Pinion · 12-12-2018 11:39pm

John Higgins is playing with a "broken rib", but has still managed to make the last 32. He also made a 147 today, picking up £22,000.

Top 16 names knocked out so far, defending champ Neil Robertson, Barry Hawkins, Stuart Bingham, Stephen Maguire, and Jack Lisowski.

Tomorrow, Thursday, is the day of these "Home Nations" events, where we start the day with 32 players, but by the end of the day, we'll have the 8 quarter-finalists.

Top half of draw:

Ross Muir v Sam Baird
Ali Carter v David Lilley
Joe Perry v Kyren Wilson
Nigel Bond v Shaun Murphy
Zhou Yuelong v Stuart Carrington
Tian Pengfei v Lu Ning
Ian Burns v Billy Joe Castle
Zhang Jiankang v Judd Trump

Bottom half:

John Higgins v Yan Bingtao
Alfie Burden v Zhang Yong
Graeme Dott v Luca Brecel
Yuan Sijun v Mark Allen
Ding Junhui v Zhao Xintong
Ryan Day v Zhang Anda
Matthew Stevens v Jimmy Robertson
Mark Joyce v Daniel Wells

Top looks like Judd again or maybe Kyren. Bottom half, Mark Allen or possibly Ding, he looked really good in his 1st round match, and afterwards was talking about being well aware of his ranking (#31) for the season so far, and said he's going to play in everything possible for the rest of the season and not skip any events.

El_Duderino 09 · 13-12-2018 12:41am

Watched the Robertson vs Road Muir. Muir won but he was tough to watch. No real subtly to his play. Safety was poor, positional play was really dodgy, and putting was patchy.

It really highlights the difference between the top players and the rest. I was spoiled by the quality on display at your last week. You can come to see things like delicate cannons and positioning and good safety play as basic and normal.

In fact there are full time professionals who struggle to do those things. The final between Ronnie and Allen probably wasn't vintage but the skill level was tip-top.

Joe_ Public · 13-12-2018 1:01am

Muir by his own admission was poor - hardly says much for robertson! - but did reveal afterwards that he is suffering from an eye condition that causes migraine headaches when he plays under intense light and is exacerbated in pressure situations. Robertson moaned about Muir’s slow play after the match but apologised as soon as he heard about the headache thing and also - I suspect- when he realised he sounded like a classic sore loser.

El_Duderino 09 · 13-12-2018 9:11am

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Muir by his own admission was poor - hardly says much for robertson! - but did reveal afterwards that he is suffering from an eye condition that causes migraine headaches when he plays under intense light and is exacerbated in pressure situations. Robertson moaned about Muir’s slow play after the match but apologised as soon as he heard about the headache thing and also - I suspect- when he realised he sounded like a classic sore loser.

True. Muir was on 30 second shot average and Robertson was on 20s. And fair play he beat Robertson. But there's more to it than that. The kind of shots Robertson played were so much more ambitious than muir. He played position shots off 2/3 cushions, the length of the table and they migth be a few inches out do break over. Muir played the least ambitious shots and still ended up out of position.

And fair play he won. But the difference in skill was clear

Frank O. Pinion · 14-12-2018 11:03am

Quarter-Finals

Sam Baird (#101) v Shaun Murphy (#11)
Stuart Carrington (#42) v Judd Trump (#5)
Alfie Burden (#95) v Mark Allen (#6)
Ryan Day (#13) v Daniel Wells (#66)

John Higgins lost his last 16 round match against #95, Alfie Burden. Daniel Wells, the man who got a bye because Ronnie pulled out, is still in the tournament. There were 10 Asian players in the last 32, but zero have made the quarter-finals. Only 2 players ranked in the Top 8 in the world, made the last 8.

Inviere · 14-12-2018 5:25pm

Would love to see Murphy win this...

Minor Tournaments Discussion 2018/19.

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